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13 Giga byte patch

mikediggermikedigger Member Posts: 66 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Any idea why today the launcher tries to patch a file 13 GIGA byte large, I did not play for 7 days but that seems to be a bit excessive.
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think you'll find the actual patch you download is much, much smaller.
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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  • mikediggermikedigger Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    don't think so , runs an hours now and I have received 720 Mega bytes and it states 4 % done
  • labs00labs00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Only thing i can think of, is the patch on demand option in the launcher is turned off, which will download every single patch for the game, on the plus side you will never get the whole patching while in a loading screen. So check the launcher options to see if its unchecked, if it is uncheck then re-check it to get only the important patches.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    labs00 wrote: »
    Only thing i can think of, is the patch on demand option in the launcher is turned off, which will download every single patch for the game, on the plus side you will never get the whole patching while in a loading screen. So check the launcher options to see if its unchecked, if it is uncheck then re-check it to get only the important patches.

    Well that, or he lost/damaged his .hogg files... That would approx be around 13 gig, since it's the whole game
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Even a complete reinstall is not that large.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Even a complete reinstall is not that large.

    My STO piggs folder (live) is 11,1 ... So a patch of 13 isn't unreasonable (as the download is always smaller, than the files being patched).
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    It is 11 GB, thats not very far from 13 GB.

    From a clean install, you're looking at an 8987mb patch - that's not an 8987mb download though. The download is compressed...the patch expands out to 8987.

    Course, I'm running the en (English) client - can't say what the size would be for other clients.
  • mikediggermikedigger Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    But why would my hogg file suddenly disappear? And what is the fulol name? I find 38 .hogg files in my star trek folder
  • labs00labs00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Why not run a force verify for the game, so it will actually know what it needs. Again the launcher option will have a check box for this, just tick it before you actually log in into the launcher. not sure how arc does it, only familiar with steam and stand alone clients.
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Even a complete reinstall is not that large.

    My PWE / STO folder, just for Star Trek Online is 26 GB. That is the live folder as of 16th May 2014... this does NOT include my test server folder.

    So, 13 GB..... half the game (for En client)
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    My PWE / STO folder, just for Star Trek Online is 26 GB. That is the live folder as of 16th May 2014... this does NOT include my test server folder.

    So, 13 GB..... half the game (for En client)

    My PWE folder's 6.98GB (7501663864 bytes). 775 files, 52 folders. That's not compressed. Includes just Arc and STO Live...no Tribble/Redshirt.

    edit: Went ahead and added Tribble (Patched: x/8814MB) which took the PWE folder size to...13.2GB (14241439641 bytes). If it was 6.98GB and 8.81GB was added, shouldn't it have gone to 15.79GB? No...because that Patched number doesn't necessarily mean that much was added by adding it, just like the original Patched on the live didn't mean that. It's just the total amount of data patched, so if files are patched multiple times - it's going to add up as it is counted multiple times.

    edit2: As long as I can remember, I've tended to reinstall MMOs after any major patch - just to get rid of any garbage data taking up space, bloating the folder and generally leading to degrading performance.
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    My PWE folder's 6.98GB (7501663864 bytes). 775 files, 52 folders. That's not compressed. Includes just Arc and STO Live...no Tribble/Redshirt.

    edit: Went ahead and added Tribble (Patched: x/8814MB) which took the PWE folder size to...13.2GB (14241439641 bytes). If it was 6.98GB and 8.81GB was added, shouldn't it have gone to 15.79GB? No...because that Patched number doesn't necessarily mean that much was added by adding it, just like the original Patched on the live didn't mean that. It's just the total amount of data patched, so if files are patched multiple times - it's going to add up as it is counted multiple times.

    edit2: As long as I can remember, I've tended to reinstall MMOs after any major patch - just to get rid of any garbage data taking up space, bloating the folder and generally leading to degrading performance.

    Sorry, it was 23.6....

    Here is the proof of it

    I've had to reinstall my STO twice since the game came out... last time was about a year ago when I upgraded my PC.

    I have on demand turned off (always do - I hate it) - so this is the full live game
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    My STO Live is 16.3. Odd that we all have a different value - though I guess the number of characters we have might have something to do with that.

    Edit: Also, I do not have ARC on mine.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • capnmanxcapnmanx Member Posts: 1,452 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    17.4 here; though it'd be more like 16.9 without screenshots.

    I still use the old launcher rather than Arc.
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  • mikediggermikedigger Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    well those are all good infos but i still dont know the name of the .hogg file that I have to look for. As i said search says I have dozens of them, and it does not answer why it suddenly either disappeared or cant get accessed by the game!!
    Did a restore just now and after that comp only wanted to patch 123mbyte and after that everything worked
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mikedigger wrote: »
    well those are all good infos but i still dont know the name of the .hogg file that I have to look for. As i said search says I have dozens of them, and it does not answer why it suddenly either disappeared or cant get accessed by the game!!
    Did a restore just now and after that comp only wanted to patch 123mbyte and after that everything worked
    It could be caused by anything. Software gets corrupted all the time - ranging from power surges to minor hardware malfunctions. The whole reason the put Force Verify in the Options is because of how often gaming software gets corrupted by something.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mikedigger wrote: »
    well those are all good infos but i still dont know the name of the .hogg file that I have to look for. As i said search says I have dozens of them, and it does not answer why it suddenly either disappeared or cant get accessed by the game!!
    Did a restore just now and after that comp only wanted to patch 123mbyte and after that everything worked

    First, in my above post I forgot to add, I do use ARC for my STO (and all my other PWE games... even though STO is my only one right now)

    Also, I can have 11 characters, 10 slots are used on my account. (No idea if this counts, but it is a valid point Cosmic brought up).

    As you are having problems mike, I'd completely remove the game (and ARC if you use it), use something like CCleaner to nuke any left over information. Then do a full reinstall of Star Trek Online( I think the options here are Steam or ARC only now).

    Turn off on demand patching - it will make your download larger, but it saves time in the long run.

    Apart from that.... I'm out of ideas
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Well I take you have "on-demand patching" on as I dont.

    There's things I'm not going to be doing, places I'm not going to be going, space that I'm not going to be wasting...

    Full install is 10.6GB...mine usually will grow somewhere from that 7GB up to about 8GB if that. It's over 2.5GB of stuff that just doesn't matter to me.
    mikedigger wrote: »
    well those are all good infos but i still dont know the name of the .hogg file that I have to look for. As i said search says I have dozens of them, and it does not answer why it suddenly either disappeared or cant get accessed by the game!!
    Did a restore just now and after that comp only wanted to patch 123mbyte and after that everything worked

    A "Windows" restore?

    Could have been anything...were you running Arc by any chance along side a prior install? ie, had STO installed and added Arc?
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    My STO Live is 16.3. Odd that we all have a different value - though I guess the number of characters we have might have something to do with that.

    Edit: Also, I do not have ARC on mine.

    this is about what mine comes to 16.5 GB

    and i dont have any test servers of any type
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  • d3sharpyd3sharpy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hello. am new on this game, but im really curious because the game is patching 8987MB ! any ways to make it a little smaller ? hahaha thanks ((:
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    d3sharpy wrote: »
    Hello. am new on this game, but im really curious because the game is patching 8987MB ! any ways to make it a little smaller ? hahaha thanks ((:

    Nope... you're pretty much stuck with it.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • vampyromorphavampyromorpha Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Nope... you're pretty much stuck with it.

    Hi there,

    I have just begun playing too. Annoyingly I am stuck with a 3g dongle for my internet for the foreseeable future, slowness of patch download I live with but it eating all my data allowance is another thing! Anyway the patch can be torrent-ed to another comp and manually patched?

    Cheers
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    vampyromorpha wrote: »
    Hi there,

    I have just begun playing too. Annoyingly I am stuck with a 3g dongle for my internet for the foreseeable future, slowness of patch download I live with but it eating all my data allowance is another thing! Anyway the patch can be torrent-ed to another comp and manually patched?

    Cheers

    I guess not. Patches aren't downloaded completely and then applied. The Launcher installs the files directly.

    For some basis files, the old disc version might do it. But that data is so ancient, it's probably completely worthless.
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