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elite swarmer vs other elite hangar

jestersagejestersage Member Posts: 8 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Klingon Discussion
How is the elite swarmed compare to other elite hangars? Specifically:
  • elite scorpion
  • elite nukara hangar
  • elite BoP
  • elite ferjai
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  • serevnserevn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You didn't list Elite Orion Interceptors and their all you need.

    Tractor Beam+ Weapon and Engine energy drain+ Chroniton Torpedo spam= WIN.
  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    serevn wrote: »
    You didn't list Elite Orion Interceptors and their all you need.

    Tractor Beam+ Weapon and Engine energy drain+ Chroniton Torpedo spam= WIN.

    Pvp has so little presence in sto that it may as well not exist. If he didn't mention pvp, he didn't want pvp.
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  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'd recommend Orion Slavers, you don't have to build any new ships to get them like Interceptors, they do great damage, and they steal stuff in PVE, not alot, if they weren't great without the stealing they wouldn't be worth it, but they are, they do great damage, so the stealing is nice gravy.

    Photon torpedoes, disruptor arrays, quantum mines, crew draining (decreases hull healing), plus they steal stuff in PVE.

    Still if your using a the Feklrhi carrier whose name I forget, I'd go with one set of Fer'jal frigates and one hangar Slavers.


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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Elite swarmers do the most energy weapon damage but have terrible hull

    Elite scorpians do the most damage when shields are not involved

    Yellowstone TRIBBLE warp plasma...decent for pvp

    It's either the type 8 shuttle or the delta flyer that spam tractor beam.

    Cheers

    Derp, klingon...disregard my fed assessed pets
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

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  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    Elite swarmers do the most energy weapon damage but have terrible hull

    Elite scorpians do the most damage when shields are not involved

    Yellowstone TRIBBLE warp plasma...decent for pvp

    It's either the type 8 shuttle or the delta flyer that spam tractor beam.

    Cheers

    Derp, klingon...disregard my fed assessed pets

    Elite swarmer is not quite right there. They don't do the most energy dps, just most spike dmg. The most energy dps is elite widows, with their beam arrays faw. Elite scorps can outdps elite widows, but only on unshielded and slow single targets, aka borg stf. Swarmer's survivability problem doesn't come from its hull hp, it's because they go in close, and get caught in core breach every time. Bind it to spacebar and mash away.

    Runabouts spam tractor, not type 8 or delta.
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  • banzaizapbanzaizap Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Looking at the ones you listed, the ones I use are the Elite Scorpions and Elite Ferjai. The Elite Scorps have heavy plasma torps that do well, and the elite frigates are fantastic. They are very durable (will NOT die to FAW) and throw out a variety or torps and beams, and have some great abilities to boot. If you fly a Kar'Fi, then I strongly recommend the elite frigates.
  • gooddaytodie39gooddaytodie39 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Um, lots of bad answers here from people who don't fly carriers? Not sure. But anyway, as a carrier afficianado owning almost every carrier in the game I wiltell you for PvE content nothing comes close to the Elite Bug ship pets for the Jem Dread, next in line would be the Elite Fer'Jai frigates, followed by the Elite BoPs. They will out DPS anything else out there. Elite Scorpions honestly, are a joke compared to elite Fer'Jais or BoPs.
    Anything else pales in comparison. With any of the above you can really just sit there and let those little devils decimate your enemies.
  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    gooddaytodie39 wrote: »
    Um, lots of bad answers here from people who don't fly carriers? Not sure. But anyway, as a carrier afficianado owning almost every carrier in the game I wiltell you for PvE content nothing comes close to the Elite Bug ship pets for the Jem Dread, next in line would be the Elite Fer'Jai frigates, followed by the Elite BoPs. They will out DPS anything else out there. Elite Scorpions honestly, are a joke compared to elite Fer'Jais or BoPs.
    Anything else pales in comparison. With any of the above you can really just sit there and let those little devils decimate your enemies.

    I own every carrier in game (not "almost"). And no, elite bug don't parse the highest dps, not by a long shot. Many fighters out dps it. Fighter category, as a whole, outdps frigs.

    Elite bug pet is underwhelming for something that used to require bug ship. Even in term of spike, Elite Ferjas with its heavy tricobalt III and dual ap crf III outspike elite bug. These are parsed many times by many people.
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  • jestersagejestersage Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Thanks.
    The reason I asked is because I hate wastign fleet provisions. Dil I can live with. fleet credit I can live with, but communal stuff and I want to make sure it is good before buying. Granted, my fleet's comm array is still building, but i know we will reach there.
  • tksmittytksmitty Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    noblet wrote: »
    ... used to require bug ship.

    The JHAS pets are no longer tied to the actual JHAS?
    Current ship/builds:
    KDF Tac: Bortasqu' Tactical
    Fed Tac: Fleet Gal-X

    Keep those big guns a-thunderin'
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    noblet wrote: »
    Pvp has so little presence in sto that it may as well not exist. If he didn't mention pvp, he didn't want pvp.

    Actually, if you jump off your ASSumption Wagon for a second, you'd realize the Elite Interceptors still have plenty of utility in PVE as well as PVP. The same usefulness in pinning, slowing targets is as useful in PVE as they are in PVP. They'll do these things so you nor your teammates don't have to worry about equipping such CC BOFF abilities. 2 full hangars worth spitting out 12 Elite Interceptors is alot of control, alot of pinning, alot of slowdowns, and keeping targets in place.

    They're not the most heavily armed but they move and turn so quickly that their weapons are always presented, firing away.

    They're also, easily, hands down the fastest hangar units in the game, and you can dispatch them in quick order to carry out anything... whether to quickly move in and engage a target at a long distance, or send them to escort a target and get there ASAP.

    They're better in PVP than in PVE, but the CC they do and in the sheer numbers they do it in is alot of usefulness. They're fast, responsive, and easily replaced.
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  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    Actually, if you jump off your ASSumption Wagon for a second, you'd realize the Elite Interceptors still have plenty of utility in PVE as well as PVP. The same usefulness in pinning, slowing targets is as useful in PVE as they are in PVP. They'll do these things so you nor your teammates don't have to worry about equipping such CC BOFF abilities. 2 full hangars worth spitting out 12 Elite Interceptors is alot of control, alot of pinning, alot of slowdowns, and keeping targets in place.

    They're not the most heavily armed but they move and turn so quickly that their weapons are always presented, firing away.

    They're also, easily, hands down the fastest hangar units in the game, and you can dispatch them in quick order to carry out anything... whether to quickly move in and engage a target at a long distance, or send them to escort a target and get there ASAP.

    They're better in PVP than in PVE, but the CC they do and in the sheer numbers they do it in is alot of usefulness. They're fast, responsive, and easily replaced.

    ^They suck in pve, ignore this guy.;)
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    edited May 2014
    noblet wrote: »
    ^They suck in pve, ignore this guy.;)
    the guy has a klingon avatar and is very active in the klingon build section of the forums...chances are good he owns them on multiple characters and has used them extensively, so knows just how effective they are

    and telling people to ignore someone else's advice is EXTREMELY rude, btw
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

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    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

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  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    the guy has a klingon avatar and is very active in the klingon build section of the forums...chances are good he owns them on multiple characters and has used them extensively, so knows just how effective they are

    and telling people to ignore someone else's advice is EXTREMELY rude, btw

    No. I have over a dozen klink toons and own every carrier in game, as do many other ppl. Interceptors are great in pvp, but lol in pve. No chance involved, it's been parsed to death, by a lot of ppl. You should ignore that "advice" if you know what's good for you.:rolleyes:
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    edited May 2014
    noblet wrote: »
    You should ignore that "advice" if you know what's good for you.:rolleyes:
    making threats now? you do know such thing are against the TOS and can get you banned, right?
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    tksmitty wrote: »
    The JHAS pets are no longer tied to the actual JHAS?

    Nope, they're in the dil store now. :) Under Special Items, Hangar - Advanced JHAS.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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         Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shurato2099 wrote: »
    Nope, they're in the dil store now. :) Under Special Items, Hangar - Advanced JHAS.
    those have always been there, just like the mk xi andorian weapons and spiral-wave disruptors...and much like those things requiring their respective ships be on the character you're attempting to buy the items on, the hangars still a require an actual bugship - it'll throw an error if you try to buy them without owning one
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    those have always been there, just like the mk xi andorian weapons and spiral-wave disruptors...and much like those things requiring their respective ships be on the character you're attempting to buy the items on, the hangars still a require an actual bugship - it'll throw an error if you try to buy them without owning one

    Well, drat.
  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    making threats now? you do know such thing are against the TOS and can get you banned, right?

    Internet spaceship threats? Seriously? Your interpretation is your problem, and it's all in your head. It's not my problem you don't know what's good for you in pve. :rolleyes:
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  • tksmittytksmitty Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    noblet wrote: »
    No. I have over a dozen klink toons and own every carrier in game, as do many other ppl. Interceptors are great in pvp, but lol in pve. No chance involved, it's been parsed to death, by a lot of ppl. You should ignore that "advice" if you know what's good for you.:rolleyes:

    Have you ever considered that someone wants utility over pure DPS? It's common knowledge that interceptors aren't the highest DPS hangar pet in the game but it doesn't mean the are useless. They are just as useful as Yellowstones. You can't underestimate the handiness of free CC. Or are you one of those "Tac BFAW Scim or GTFO n00b LOL" kind of players where your personal DPS is the only thing that matters? Consider all uses for something, you may be surprised at how effective some things are.
    Current ship/builds:
    KDF Tac: Bortasqu' Tactical
    Fed Tac: Fleet Gal-X

    Keep those big guns a-thunderin'
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