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Channel admin functions still don't work as of Feb 2014

dkratascodkratasco Member Posts: 585 Arc User
edited September 2014 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
As some sick "30 day rule" another topic about same bug not fixed for two years (that rule probably work in bug section of forum just to hide how long Cryptic doesn't fix bugs in basic game systems).

Unmute option at player created channels don't work most the time. Sometimes mute one person help unmute someone else. As it can be seen here and here problem is know for more than 2 years.
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  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I can confirm the issue persists for about two years now.

    Mute/Unmute options are completely unreliable. Sometimes they work, most of the time they don't. Muting one players causes another one to get unmuted and vice versa. I wasn't able to pinpoint any kind of pattern.

    As such, and kind of channel moderation is a complete pain in the back. Unless the channel is set to private people have no reliable way of keeping unwanted people out. Kicking doesn't work, as it doesn't permit player from joining the channel again.

    Many channels were forced to go private because of this, which in turn resulted in an overall drop in userbase. Others that are public often suffer from troll invasions and similar types of problems.

    I think this is the original thread bug report thread (16.06.2012) - http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=274110
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dkratasco wrote: »
    As some sick "30 day rule" another topic about same bug not fixed for two years (that rule probably work in bug section of forum just to hide how long Cryptic doesn't fix bugs in basic game systems).

    Unmute option at player created channels don't work most the time. Sometimes mute one person help unmute someone else. As it can be seen here and here problem is know for more than 2 years.

    Well for starters the rule applies to all forums not just the bug section ;)

    Secondly, it's more prominent on channels with over 1000 people in it. It's been noticed and confirmed as a bug many times over, the problem that arose was testing wise on their shard they don't have channels THAT huge to try to fix. Some have found however that creating a new channel removes this bug.
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    askray wrote: »
    Secondly, it's more prominent on channels with over 1000 people in it. It's been noticed and confirmed as a bug many times over, the problem that arose was testing wise on their shard they don't have channels THAT huge to try to fix. Some have found however that creating a new channel removes this bug.
    Our channel has a bit less than 1000 users at the moment, but by the time we've started reporting this bug two years ago it was barely going into a few hundreds. Yet even then managing mutes was as difficult, as it is now.

    I don't want to openly post specific channel names nor usernames, but if Cryptic is willing to look into this further then I can provide more specific information via PM to a dev, assuming that would help.


    On a sidenote, the 30-day rule should really be lifted from the bug reports section of the forums. I mean, people post useful information regarding persisting bugs, Cryptic of course does nothing about it, so people bump the threads only for them to be closed. How exactly creating numerous threads about a long-time persisting issue helps if each and every time people have to reference the previous threads/posts? It creates a bigger mess than necro-ing a single older thread...
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  • dkratascodkratasco Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Even smaller channels are effected. Currently 84 members, first mute/unmute work fine next not, simply don't apply or apply to random members other than chosen one. After few day system "reset" and again first mute/unmute work fine next not.
  • tyriniussstyriniusss Member Posts: 317 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This should really be adressed, or at least they should admit, that the bug exists.
    It's an MMO, with a more than lacking chat system we should at least have other options than "kick" and "perma mute" for channels...
  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    tyriniusss wrote: »
    This should really be adressed, or at least they should admit, that the bug exists.
    It's an MMO, with a more than lacking chat system we should at least have other options than "kick" and "perma mute" for channels...
    They have admitted they know about this bug. Multiple times.
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  • dkratascodkratasco Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Yea... they admitted it in previous closed threads (where in bug section CLOSE should mean BUG FIXED) but there is no in game info for channel admins that if they mute some one it will be almost permanent.
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Fixing bugs like that won't make them any money.

    I mean, it's the admins' problem, which are definitely a minority. The fact that custom channels may very well end up like another Zone, with trolls and spammers, is no concern of Cryptic.

    I mean, seriously, who would care about some admin functions when they could send the system guy to program do some new OP goodies for the next lock box, or some other dinosaurs with freaking lasers.

    /s

    And of course Cryptic won't admit such bug exist in Patch Notes' Known Issues - it's bad marketing. Sweep it under the carpet and pretend the problem doesn't exist. It's like they do with most of their major bugs.

    Heck, they didn't even post a Patch Note that the S8 memory leak issue has been supposedly fixed...They barely even acknowledged it existed in the first place.
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  • crypticfrostcrypticfrost Member Posts: 1,479 Cryptic Developer
    edited May 2014
    Can I get the names of some channels that are having this problem, please.
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I know for a fact that RedditChat is.
  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Can I get the names of some channels that are having this problem, please.

    SSR is another big one.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Redditchat. We've directly contacted Farktoid and Borticus about it. Please look into it.
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Can I get the names of some channels that are having this problem, please.
    I've sent the name of our affected channel via PM.
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  • captinjacksparowcaptinjacksparow Member Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Can I get the names of some channels that are having this problem, please.
    "Accolades" channel is having this problem. It has 1500+ members, and I am one of the users that can't be unmuted. I've been muted for well over a month now, and the channel admins have tried unmuting me, to no avail.
  • gdeemergdeemer Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    We have two members in our private channel that were muted awhile back and we are unable to un-mute them.

    We have tried:

    i. Un-mute
    ii. Promoting them in the channel to un-mute themselves
    iii. Kicking from the channel and inviting them back in
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Any updates?

    gdeemer wrote: »
    We have two members in our private channel that were muted awhile back and we are unable to un-mute them.

    We have tried:

    i. Un-mute
    ii. Promoting them in the channel to un-mute themselves
    iii. Kicking from the channel and inviting them back in

    Try the following (not necessarily in that order):
    Mute another player who's either not active anymore, is someone else's alt, or generally won't be "missed" when muted.
    Try unmuting the players you want to unmute.
    Refresh.
    If that didn't help, try muting another unnecessary/temporary account.
    Repeat the unmute/refresh attempt.
    Play around with these player's mutes/unmutes in different order.


    I wasn't able to find any logical pattern, but such attempts of muting and unmuting OTHER accounts at random helped us with all the mutes/unmutes we've needed to deal with, eventually getting it to a state we've wanted to keep it. It's a pain in the back, especially since sometimes the mutes tend to come back by themselves (not sure why, my guess is that something within the registered user list changed - someone left, someone else joined etc.).
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  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Any news? really, this is so annoying. would be nice if devs fixed this instead of making lock boxes...
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  • gdeemergdeemer Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Can I get the names of some channels that are having this problem, please.

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    There are currently no members that are muted, but the channel is affected.

    Please feel free to contact me to get more information.
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  • dkratascodkratasco Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I was out of game lately, but now I can confirm that channel Polska is still affected by this problem.
  • torsten1009torsten1009 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Can I get the names of some channels that are having this problem, please.

    "EliteSTF" there are currently 2 mute-bugged users (channel-members: 4,166). Somehow I was able to unmute 3 other mute-bugged members before server-maintenance (have you fixed a bug that allowed me to unmute members?).

    There are still more people that were mute-bugged on the channel, but they gave-up and left.
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  • sydusgreysydusgrey Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I need help for someone from cryptic to unmute members in my chat channel of Pixel Alliance please
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