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rck01
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The thread title says it all. Are you a...
1. WASD person?
2. Double mouse buttons type?
3. Game controller guy/gal?
4. Custom gaming mouse with a zillion buttons min/maxer?
4. Other?
Frankly, for non-escort play it probably doesn't matter much. But when you're trying to line-up cannons or a BO shot, the efficiency and responsiveness of your "steering" mechanism may make all the difference.
So, how do you steer *your* ship in STO PvP play? And while your at it, tell us how you handle other stuff, like throttle control and powers activation.
Note: I use the WASD keys with my left hand and the number keys pad to activate powers with my right. Not the most efficient solution, and it shows: I suck! :P
RCK
1. WASD person?
2. Double mouse buttons type?
3. Game controller guy/gal?
4. Custom gaming mouse with a zillion buttons min/maxer?
4. Other?
Frankly, for non-escort play it probably doesn't matter much. But when you're trying to line-up cannons or a BO shot, the efficiency and responsiveness of your "steering" mechanism may make all the difference.
So, how do you steer *your* ship in STO PvP play? And while your at it, tell us how you handle other stuff, like throttle control and powers activation.
Note: I use the WASD keys with my left hand and the number keys pad to activate powers with my right. Not the most efficient solution, and it shows: I suck! :P
RCK
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(wasd/qe+mouse for camera and powers. no macros, follow target cam; ground-edit: wasd+numblock and barely mouse)
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Does anyone use their right hand for button actions? Or do you all keep your right hand glued to your mouse and just use its extra buttons (if any) to activate powers?
Is anybody actually mousing around their tray clicking stuff in combat? :eek:
I know that, once the melee starts, my hands stay glued to the keyboard. Only rarely do I use the mouse, and then only to adjust the camera angle.
There's another good topic: What camera mode do you use for PvP? Free? Follow Target? Chase?
RCK
So you alternate between mousing and numpad pressing...interesting. That's how I do it, as well, however I find it can be distracting when I'm trying to keep the camera on a fast moving target while also activating buffs.
Another Topic: How are people laying out their buff activations? I keep my most common ones in Tray 0 and just use the numpad to activate them. However, I have so many that I sometimes have to overflow into Tray 1, and that means a ctrl+keypress combo, which is not always convenient when fighting an escort in a turn battle.
As for a primary keybind, what do you folks use? Anyone map stuff to keys *other* than spacebar?
FWIW, I've got my ASDW keys all mapped to execute items in Tray 7. So A2D, TT, EPtX and TI all get cycled continuously whenever I turn or pitch. Spacebar also executes Tray 7 (for when I'm in a tight turn and can't maneuver) and also fires weapons - good for triggering a manual BO shot, etc.
RCK
Free-look mode, with most of my time spent holding down the right-mouse button and looking around.
Joypad for regular powers and dogfighting.
Mouse for target selection and casual flight.
Keyboard for irregular powers (like batteries, cruiser commands, set powers).
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i use the mousewheel for throttle and q/e to zoom/unzoom.
i have my cycly skills bound into two groups of two- so four keys: gbcz. two keys are defensive-based and two are offensive-based. i do not bind the alpha-strike buffs, nor gdf, tet cascade, etc.
i also tend to run things in reverse, like a flight sim. mousewheel back to accelerate, inverted mouse y axis, etc.
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Two buttoned mouse with free look.
My left hands too busy activating powers on the tray to steer!
Also, this thread is far more useful to less experienced pvp'ers than pretentious platitudes that include "team work is OP".
The most frequently used abilities get broken into groups:
T for Tac Teams
H for EPtX abilities
G for attack patterns
Y for cannons/beam overloads.
Everything else uses the number keys or I use it infrequently enough that manually clicking the ability tray isn't a problem.
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The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced I should try mouse steering. WASD is great for basic maneuvers/cruiser play, however, I can't help but feel I'm losing some turn potential due to keyboard lag, lack of key repeat (when jamming a single directional key in a tight circle-battle), etc. Gotta be a better way...
Keep it going, guys! Lots of wisdom on display!
RCK
Pitch Down - S
Turn Left - A
Turn Right - D
Throttle Forward - E
Throttle Back - Q
RMB-Drag to rotate the camera, sometimes dropping in the LMB as well just to steer that way if I've got to scratch my nose...course, sometimes that causes me to fire prematurely.
Get a slow turning Cruiser and EWP. Hit up some NPCs and paint them. Not a stream of EWP, but a puddle - forward, backward, turning, forward, backward. Move to a faster boat with EWP. Work your way up in speed as you paint them. Eventually, you won't even think about it while flying - it will be reflex as you work the throttle control into your pitch/turn to dance your nose on the target. As you get used to the ship, you'll work the inertia into it - working the slide - start going Dukes of Hazard with powerslides, bootleggers, and the rest.
For me, left hand is always set to the home-row position (ASDF) and right hand is always on the mouse. With my left hand in this position, I can reach the whole left half of my keyboard without moving my hand; I use ESDF for steering, which frees up my pinky for modifiers and specials (shift, tab, tilde, etc), and can reach 6/H/N with my index finger, which gives me a lot of keys for specials. The mouse is used to control camera position and zoom, targeting, and throttle. I use mouse steering for small craft (fighters and shuttles) because they are too twitchy for keyboard control, but the behavior changed in one of the S9 updates and its not reliable now. I would use the mouse more if I could remap the buttons the way I want, but some of the controls are undocumented or unchangeable.
ps--I havent owned a joystick for 10 years but have thought about getting one. Might be able to do some interesting things with a hat and camera/targeting, plus get more fire controls onto the right hand so i'm not bashing space bar as much.
Tried with PS controler, but camera gets tricky although flying fast ships is more precise(on paper)
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On Healers and Sci's WASD.
mouse wheel for throttle, freecam preferably, though sometimes it switches to follow target on me.
I have keys around wasd bound for certain powers/power group activations.
and I have several keybind files made to quickly switch when I change ships or layouts, depending on my objectives.
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You just let go of 1 button for a sec or 2, no biggie.
Heh, I guess for some - it would explain to them why it looks like I'm flying around like I'm not looking where I'm going...cause odds are probably good at that point I'm literally not looking where I'm going.
Whether looking at a target, looking at what the expected path would be on that target and thus looking at what the expected paths to attack somebody on that path is - or - doing the support thing, trying to keep folks visually queued so I can try to avoid flying out of range of them and watching for where their flying might be leaving them open...I guess I'm just looking around.
But I guess that's tied into not really ever flying anybody that's built to kill - tend to be support or distraction. Toss some buffs/debuffs/heals...get somebody to burn some buffs/debuffs/heals...get folks chasing to maneuver them into position for somebody else...kiting...etc, etc, etc.
Figure I'm going to have a tough time with the two rerolls that I did to try to make kill boats. It's left me feeling like I'm flying blind with them - the narrow 45 arcs, more focused on keeping them on target (not the wheeee, here I am, come chase me and forget about the guys about to kill you)...because so far, lol - I'm definitely having trouble with them (outside of just the lack of piloting skill I have for the 45 arc, I keep getting blindsided by things that I normally would have seen coming - perhaps it's just the focus on the 45 arc being unnatural...meh...now I'm babbling...)...