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....anyone else feeling like "this game is dying ?" maybe even faster since S9 ?
I now tried to get season 9 done.....but......the conclusion: Its a ******n Moneymachine.....nothing else....
When will this game die ?
Why do we all stay here ?
I say: "**** PWE and just pay nothing more ! Just stop paying them !"
Let it die...
Let it go to "Val Halla" ! No more teaming, no more ships, no more trys, let it die......just let it die guys...
I now tried to get season 9 done.....but......the conclusion: Its a ******n Moneymachine.....nothing else....
When will this game die ?
Why do we all stay here ?
I say: "**** PWE and just pay nothing more ! Just stop paying them !"
Let it die...
Let it go to "Val Halla" ! No more teaming, no more ships, no more trys, let it die......just let it die guys...
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Of course, at some point, someone must be right..
I logged in yesterday, or was it the day before, for about an hour and felt absolutely no compulsion or desire to play. I checked out the space battlezone, slotted a 20 hour project I still havent logged in to claim.
I sort of dont care anymore. The rep trait revamp was the last straw for me as far as constantly spending fortunes to retool builds every season or so. Max rep on 10 toons and then losing 3/4 of the passives earned absolutely pissed me off. Address powercreep elsewhere, you dont take away what has been ground out already.
Im just sick of it, it takes too ******ned much in this game just to pew pew.
Maybe me and the guys will show up at some point, but the last time I asked in teamspeak they were like "why?"
*shrug*
Meanwhile sitting in Cyrodiil at level 36 and killing vet level players is hysterical because level and gear is relatively meaningless in ESO, i mean there is a point where it will matter, like in supercharged ganksquads, but for the most part you pick up a trebuchet or hop on your horse and its game on.
You think a vaper is hysterical, wait til youve played an assassination specced nightblade.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
It can happen to anyone, I think, and it's not neccessarily a sign of the game's death, just a sign that you no longer enjoy it.
I left before the Omega reputation was introduced in the first place. I came back 2 months or so ago, sitting on what seemed* like a neat pile of Zen from my lifetime subscription, and trying out all the stuff that was new to me. Several reputations, a few new missions, a new "sub"faction, fleet stuff.
I see it's still not well on the PvP front, no real additions, power creep and power imbalance, but there is new PvE content I can explore and fiddle around with and it's fun enough to sustain, and I am now logging in practically daily again, having already repped out most reps on one character. It looks to me the game is in good health, overall, complains about changes non-withstanding. The new featured episode seems pretty well done, the revamped episodes look really better than what I remember. A lot more voice over content, which implies a good budget, which in turn implies that they make good money, evne if it requires selling lockboxes with immersion-defying and possibly imbalanced non-faction ships.
*) Looking at triple-sized ship sets, fleet modules and what not, it doesn't seem so much anymore.
So what you're saying is....no more pug-stomping no more STO?
@DevolvedOne
You wish, its more like STO PvP is garbage?
But you keep on prancing around like you think we ever "feared the almighty premade"
Fact is, we beat everyone except Inner Circle on a regular basis without any problem whatsoever when we were running full teams.
We had losses, sure, but that comes with the territory.
Fighting the same 20-30 people every single day got boring, sorry to tell you this. The only people that ever wanted "premade private matches" would duck us all damn day til they had "those five guys" on finally that seem to be the only five guys on the entire fricken game that can beat vice (those still playing that is, the best players I actually respected the most are long long gone back to bambooland)
But hey. Have fun with this thread, imma go pewpew on my new game while yall wait for hours in queues and stuff.
Toodles.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
The people that love PvP are almost all gone. Those left behind will hang around until they realize the people they enjoyed PvPing with are not coming back.
Crypitc had an opportunity... they had 4 years and some where in the in the region of 200 or so patch days to make the game something PvP players in general could admit they enjoyed playing.
As it is if you play any other PvP game you don't admit to spending crazy numbers of hours in STO.
I wish Cryptic well. They should always have a core of RP players and trek heads willing to give them money...
We as PvP lovers have to decide if we like Trek enough to still log in and PvE with the odd game of PvP thrown in for nostalgia. If the answer is yes then do like I do and keep the game installed and play for 1-2 hours a month here and there when you feel the urge.
What makes me more concerned for the future of STO isn't the PvP... that's dead and over put a fork in it already. What is the real issue for them is there lack of paid writers... really I can't even bring myself to do the featured episode. I know the writing is so bad its going to make me want to throw my computer screen. I can excuse there take on PvP... its an after thought, fine. Really though to think that these guys are the only real light for the IP at the moment makes me sad... they seem fine with leaving the writing to the janitorial staff.
I find it really kind of trippy how that one's being overlooked in so many discussions out there...heck, even PO170 didn't mention it when they wrote off the CC Rep.
The real thing that hurts STO more then anything imo is the lack of community play due to the lack of need for it. That's part of it being casual of course but casual doesn't mean you need to have no challenge.
In ESO while leveling you can expect to be killed, you sometimes need to do fights and see how they work and figure them out. Sometimes you have a need to ask for help doing quests with bosses that prove to be too hard for you at the moment. The dungeons are a challenge and you can expect to be killed. To need to work as a team to overcome them.
All of that is missing from STO. The real problem with season nine is that it's content that can be beaten in a day. You can beat the new missions, you can do the new episode, you can do it all day one. Tho that is what the game is about because they want it to be the casual mmo, they want you to log in have a bit of fun and go do something else. That's it's design and it works at that.
EDIT: It's not post-Nemesis, but if you haven't read it, read "Immortal Coil". I found this to be one of the best Trek books I've ever read. And it is kind of necessary to read it to fully understand the recent post-Nemesis Cold Equations books.
Thanks for the tip. I read the destiny books they where good. I'll find myself a copy of Immortal coil.
R.I.P
The newest books are a great read. I'm not one who can judge literary quality or anything, but they are enjoyable to me. Except for the Vesta - almost a Mary Sue, though I appreciate the ship itself.
The Gorkon series is a nice read too, as Klingon development, and Titan isn't too bad either.
The changes affect people in different ways so to certain people PvP will now be dead due to the changes not fitting with some peoples play styles. I am sorry for you people that are moving on or going to play less, but PvP is certainly not dead.
After every update the PvP queues/chat always drop off due to people being busy doing the new content. I for one like the new changes and think its well overdue, some "OP" players are now mere mortals thanks to the change's. Me being a mediocre PvPer at best has not felt the changes to myself but I have felt the changes in other players, it just goes to show how OP having all those rep skills was.
Its a shame they added that 1v1 2v2 Queue because we have far to many e-peen braggers as it is, adding a specific queue for them was a mistake !
Overall so far so good and I am sorry PvP is dead to some people, please dont be strangers because having a laugh with your friends is worth far more than loosing sleep over pixel's.
Building up a brand new Romulan.
Enjoying season 9.
Seeing very high activity everywhere despite the early days of instability at launch.
Looks pretty strong to me.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
*Smacks forehead*
Yeah, I meant the Aventine. My mistake. It's been a while since I last read the book, and for some reason I got it in my head that it was the Vesta Dax was commanding.
But as awkward as for some of you it may sound, PVP is not dead at all. It's not over yet.
If you can letgo of the past, of how PVP was like back then, I believe one can still have a lot of fun in PVP.
Granted, the rise in FAW Scimitars, doff'd RSP feedback pulsing builds needs getting used to, but I'd argue PVP is not getting worse, but just different. If you can think in those terms, then you may enjoy pewing almost as much as in the good old days.
Give it a couple of weeks, the "OP" players will data the parsers and figure things out and things will be back to business as usual for the most part. Right now folks are trying to play around the inefficient code int he game to maximize builds not to mention we do not know if cryptic borked something in the roll out. The usual QQ will comeback
Nowadays, one should try to maintain at least one toon to have high-end gear. The new reputation system reliefs players a bit from grinding, at least on that department, so I'd count that a step into the right direction in my book. There is still fun to be had in the game.
I agree. I would also like to add...Did you notice that there's not OP doffs in the Undine lockbox? In fact there's no unique Undine doffs at all like the last few lockboxes, just kit modules. That seems like another step in the right direction.
May your new child bring glory and honor to your house. Oh, and crush the head of your enemies beneath his/her/their feet.
l30p4rd
There is no 1v1 2v2 Queue. Please refer to this post.
@DevolvedOne
No. I've never seen the PvP queues so full.
Quoted for truth.
I've just spent the last 4 hours in the new PvP queue and I'm loving it! All of the games have been relatively balanced both team and score wise, there has only been 1 cheese merchant so far and because he was alone it was easy to shrug off! I'm sure I'll run into a game that will be unbalanced or have more than one cheese monkey in it but if a relatively balanced game happens more often then not then colour me happy!
Quite frankly, I'd be glad if all the pug stompers go play ESO or whatever the latest flavour of the month is. STO needs a new breed of PvP who don't rely on exploits and have better sportsmanship.
Good times my friends, good times
I was pretty sure the Team Queue would be dead, but Ive had plenty of matches so far. Some have been pugs but they are better than the average, I think mostly the more confident peeps will queue for it.
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PUNISH THE FEDs
Haven't been able to get interested in many of the games I hear other PVPers playing lately, none of them are space.