Flanking is live! w00t!

catliketyping

Flanking! It's live!

I LOVE seeing the little Flank numbers go up. Bloop! Especially in big clusters, as in Breen Cluster

Nevermind the Undine planet killers can only be attacked from the front... or that stuff in the Undine Dyson space lasts seconds before they blow up, especially if someone else is fighting the Undine at the same time...

Seriously, did they test the new Space battlezone? It's so easy, even a Galaxy-class caveman could do it. I had no idea what I was doing, so I just blew everything up.

Flanking is OP, plz nerf.

mimey2

catliketyping wrote: »

Flanking is OP, plz nerf.

Unlike most 'x is op' posts, something tells me that they probably will eventually.

shpoks

Ben law' batlhmey wo'vaD!! BIQtIq Qon'oS teb vo' DIvI' baqto' yInISQo'!!

Qapla'!

Now....how did that 'Test of mettle' mission go...? Ah yes - find me a nice Federation cruiser to blow up!

And ssshhhhhhhh....don't even joke about OP, Feds. might see it. Some of them still think AA is OP. :P

talonxv

All I gotta say is BOUT FRAKKIN TIME!

catliketyping

So I have torpedoes & more torpedoes on my B'rel. When I don't shoot a torpedo to get the flank bonus, I can shoot a torpedo. Or a mine. :rolleyes:

What is working well with you non-torpedo boats?

I did not enjoy my time in my Hegh'ta as much, although I prefer the B'rel to everything else anyway, including the T'varo on my KDF Rom.

Do you use the old DHC set up? How does travel time work or not work on those projectiles?

Does a DBB setup feel like it's working better with the Flanking? Especially with the EWO DOFF thing that triggers penetration buffs on BO?

Seriously, I feel like I should go DBB instead of moar DHCs because of the EWO thing... but I haven't run enough of it with my Hegh'ta yet.

shandypandy

Out of interest, as someone with a Plesh Brek, is anyone using the Borg 2 piece on their raider? How have the changes to that affected the proc? A dev mentioned it might increase the heal per-tick on it on raiders due to the low hull mod.

I apologise in advance for the appearance of a fed here. I'm.... on secondment? Yeah. That's it.

The flanking bonus is awesome in stuff like no win as well, where you know the spawn points and so can park on the rear quarter.

catliketyping

I didn't notice it with my Hegh'ta, but this was the Space Battlezone, and things like the buffs are a little difficult to focus on during the slideshow.

I'll be tinkering with my Hegh'ta again today & I'll see if it goes any differently. Going to do the AP loadout this time since the Polarons were disappointing, although I might do a Polaron DBB setup just to see how that does with the Flanking since I can afford good Polarons & can't afford a bunch of AP DBBs, I don't think.

EDIT: Oh, you're talking the Deflector/Impulse/Shield set. Well, I guess I could throw it on. I have been using the Jem'hadar or KHG set. I may try to avoid torpedos this time around, though... don't know.

EDIT2: Sorry, just stepped back into my Ar'kif, and that is just so superior to any pew pew ship. Battle Cloak, Hangar, extra tac console... it's just the ultimate pew pew machine.

Sure, I could flank with a decloaking Hoh'sus, but dang, the Ar'kif is nasty!

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knuhteb5

Next up, Klingon battle cruisers with flanking!!! Woohooo! J/k, j/k!!! Congrats to you bops captains though. It's about time boppies got some lovin'

catliketyping

I ran a Borg 2-piece with my Hegh'ta. I didn't die instantly in the big messes during the Space Battleground (and of course, the Planet Killers didn't show up). I felt even tougher using my Aegis stuff. In any case, I survived being shot at in cases where I felt like I'd normally get wiped out quickly... but with so much stuff happening around me, I couldn't tell exactly what buffs were going on or off.

I might have to get the Solanae Dyson set... it's convinced me to use more survivability over the marginal improvement to damage from my Omega set Tetryon Glider, especially now that I have the EWOs with the chance for bonus penetration on BOs.

All that being said, Flanking is just not so useful in the space battleground because it all dies so quickly. I felt stronger in my Ar'kif (of course) as compared to my Hegh'ta because the Ar'kif is just plain better at spamming damage quickly.

Yes, I can throw down a Grav Well & use more Science on my Hegh'ta, but it's all a waste when Undine last seconds.

I will have to run the Hegh'ta some more before I decide on trying to get a Fleet Hoh'sus, in any case.

knuhteb5 wrote: »

Next up, Klingon battle cruisers with flanking!!! Woohooo! J/k, j/k!!! Congrats to you bops captains though. It's about time boppies got some lovin'

It would be cool if there were one KDF Battle Cruiser with a Battle Cloak, but no more than that.

I don't think it should copy the D'deridex, and maybe it shouldn't be a pure TacPWNage cruiser in order to have some sense of differentiation between the Scimitar faction & the KDF... but, say, a Zen store Negh'var, using the Negh'var BOFF layout & with a Battle Cloak console that you could flip over to your Fleet Negh'var?

It would never happen, though.

shpoks

Yo dawg, this flanking shtick be bitchin'! lol :P

But seriously though, I had some more time to play around with my Hegh'ta yesterday and looks pretty cool from the way I'm standing. Love having that 'flanking' icon and being enticed to apply a more strategic approach in my opening, but loving the new hull values even better.
The flank seems to do it's bit rather well, the ship feels overally more powerfull even though I don't have particualry strong and fleshed out setup on this ship yet.

Loving the buff for now anyway, I'm getting eager to bring up my new 'BoP char' up to lvl 50 and get him in the B'rel.

@shandypandy

Sorry, I can't really help with that - I started playing BoPs seriously only a while ago and since I have a lot of crafting chars. I usually give them the Aegis untill I get the Honor Guard set - which is the first thing I get for all my chars.
For what is worth, now that I'm involved in building a serious B'rel - I do intend of getting and trying out the Borg set to see how it works for me (I never tried it, hate Borg TRIBBLE on my ships:P). Although I highly suspect I'll go back to the Honor Guard, because B'rel and torpedoes!

senatorvreenak

If you don't have a subspace jump console already, now's the time to get one! :cool:

catliketyping

senatorvreenak wrote: »

If you don't have a subspace jump console already, now's the time to get one! :cool:

Yeah, I'm going to get the Ch'tang for that.

I want one just to give my Romulan a Tier 4 BoP to use. As much as I love my T'varo, I want to see what a Romulan can do with Flanking.

shpoks

senatorvreenak wrote: »

If you don't have a subspace jump console already, now's the time to get one! :cool:

Good advice.

catliketyping

Well, if you wondered if you could Critically Flank yourself with a High Yield Gravimetric Torpedo, you can

Also, Undine Dromias Cruiser bio-whatever jump fluidic eruption can also hit you for 50K damage on Elite)

shpoks

Well after having the comfort of messing around with the BoPs and their new flanking for some more time, I have to admit - I've become a big fan of the mechanic. The raiders seem even more fun and the damage output (especially in PvE) is admirable granted I time and position my attacks with some forethought, which is another thing I like about it. Makes the gameplay a bit more engaging.

I'm slowly gearing up the B'rel on my new Klingon char. I started for this and things seem to be shaping up to have a lot of fun in that one. These hull and damage boosts really seem to helped the raiders be able to make their stand in what they do best - hit & run.

icsairguns

shpoks wrote: »

Yo dawg, this flanking shtick be bitchin'! lol :P

For what is worth, now that I'm involved in building a serious B'rel - I do intend of getting and trying out the Borg set to see how it works for me (I never tried it, hate Borg TRIBBLE on my ships:P). Although I highly suspect I'll go back to the Honor Guard, because B'rel and torpedoes!

wow sounds like your doing that part bass ackwards. I used to (not anymore) use the borg set on all but the brel and used the honor guard on the brel for torp bonus.

really though after the repair nerf borg set is not nearly as good on the larger ships as it once was but it may surprise the hell out of you on the brel with its healing. it still blows the AEGIS out of the water.

and I agree on the flanking I was quiet about it for some time. but its been working wonders as of late. decloaking and vaping from aft with torps. I had never been able to do that until now.

catliketyping

My main flanker is now my Fleet Norgh.

I use the OP Enhanced Biomolecular torpedos, Disruptor DBBs (plus EWOs with the BO-penetration thing), plus the Experimental Proton gun & Gravimetric torpedo in the aft (for the full Dyson weapon set).

Buff with APO & BO & a torpedo skill, decloak & get the Elite Romulan Ambush bonus through my Sup Subterfuge Embassy BOFF.

The B'rel is still fun, but since I'm doing a lot of Undine battlespace, I prefer my decloaking raiders.

EDIT:
Maybe I will use my Fleet Hoh'sus now... and not even with the OP Biomolecular Torpedos.

3x AP DBBs, Gravimetric torp in the front... 360 AP beam, Dyson Proton weapon in the back. I really like DBBs for Flanking now, for whatever reason. I just don't like the travel time on DHCs, especially coupled with BO penetration DOFFs. Something about the DBBs seems better right now, and I'm not even FAWing with my BoPs.