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Best and Worst Star Trek Movie?
grandnaguszek1
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Which Star Trek movie do you think was the best and which one was the worst. There are so many bad ones it is hard to tell.
I think the best was The Motion Picture because it was intelligently written and had intelligent science fiction, not just a typical Hollywood style movie. But unfortunately it was too intelligent for the audience so they so called nerfed star trek. The movie actually followed the traditional style of Star trek too.
The worst in my opinion was The Undiscovered Country. General Chang ruined it for me with his annoying Skakesphere quotes.
I think the best was The Motion Picture because it was intelligently written and had intelligent science fiction, not just a typical Hollywood style movie. But unfortunately it was too intelligent for the audience so they so called nerfed star trek. The movie actually followed the traditional style of Star trek too.
The worst in my opinion was The Undiscovered Country. General Chang ruined it for me with his annoying Skakesphere quotes.
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Well while I agree with you that tmp was great, I don't get your dislike for st6. After all that was (unlike so many) quiet intelligent sci fi.
After all, undiscovered country is my favorite,
Least favorite...
Generations. That movie didn't have bad writing, it had no writing. It had no direction. It had no plot.
The only thing it had was original actors and a TNG feeling that other tng movies didn't have.
But this is only my least favorite st movie because I do not consider the jar jar movies st movies. The 2009 film had the exact same problems generations had, minus the perks. And it was even more stupid...
The worst, of course Insurrection or Nemesis. There is a big difference between the "quality" of these two and the other ones... lol.
Generations is far better than a few... honestly. It doesnt have a crappy writting. Just a plain one. Like millions of sci movies out there. Insurrection of Nemesis were really far worst than Generations.. lol.
For an action packed yet tense movie, The Wrath of Khan is easily the best. On the other hand, if you want a more suspenseful political thriller, Undiscovered Country is beautiful. TMP is fantastic as a story driven piece if you can look past the attempts to mimic 2001: A Space Odyssey. If you want a Star Trek Movie that managed to pull off humor, then The Journey Home is fantastic.
However, ST V was purely dreadful. For the life of me, I can't think of any redeeming qualities.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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or, for those that can't figure out numbers:
WoK>TUC>TVH>SfS>FC>>>>Gen>TMP>>>>Ins>ST'09>Nem>TFF
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Honorable Mention: Wrath of Khan.
Worst: Nemesis.
Honorable Mention: The Motion Picture.
Worst: Nemesis
Yes, Nemesis was worse (imho) than The Final Frontier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW_lPlekiQ
That scene snippet from TFF was better than all of Nemesis combined...lol.
edit: Personal full list (even including JJ's summer action series)...
1) The Wrath of Khan
2) The Motion Picture
3) Generations
4) The Voyage Home
5) The Search for Spock
6) The Undiscovered Country
7) The Final Frontier
8) Star Trek (2009)
9) First Contact
10) Into Darkness
11) Insurrection
12) Nemesis
Best (personal) GEN it was the first Trek movie that I seened in the theatres and so it was more sentimental
Best (Villian) Nero, in my opinion, i felt he had more justification than any other villians beside Kruge (who was more Kirk's Klingon counterpart than a villlian)
Worst NEM because the movie was hyped as the fan's film and the epic last voyage of the TNG crew. However, if you read the movie novelization, it was a good story, but the movie execution was terrible.
Worst Villian Rua'fo as Picard said, the UFP got pulled into a minor blood feud, especially in the when the UFP was fighting to save itself during the Dominion War
The worst, for me, is TMP. I'm one of the few who actually liked ST5.
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Sorry, but no. They are not.
Both films were poorly written and inconsistent, not saying they are good in any way.
But while failing to deliver, both HAD something to deliver. They had a plot.
Generations were just a kitbash of "stuff we want in the movie"
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I'm here all night.
Bad's too kind. Insurrection's only saving grace was just how bad Nemesis was.
IMO, Insurrection was the best Star Trek film. It was a nice philosophical story with great character development, if you ask me.
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In Cold Blood
2) Star Trek: First Contact
3) Star Trek (2009)
4) Star Trek: TMP (The Directors Cut version)
5) Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
6) Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
7) Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
8) Star Trek Generations
9) Star Trek: Nemesis
10) Star Trek V: The Final Frontier / Star Trek: Insurrection (Tie for Worst/Last Place)
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Well, not best. But I wholly agree with the sentiment.
The premise was great...the movie not so much. Even Frakes wasn't happy with the script.
Or you could just as easily say: Insurrection's only failing is just how good First Contact was.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
The Enterprise's shields and weapons were down. Wasn't that sneak attack a cheap trick on Khan's part as well?
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kirk suspected something was up before the attack happened and he failed to notice the intent, as a commander of a ship its the captains job to protect those under his command and he got lucky khan was in a gloating mood. it wasnt a sneak attack, otherwise he would have no idea where the attack came from and no chance to respond to it but just as it was he knew a dirty trick khan didnt and used it.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
2. Wrath of Khan
3. The undiscovered country (my guilty pleasure)
4. First contact
5. The motion picture
6. The voyage home (fun movie, but not what I want to see when I go watch "Star trek")
7. search for Spock
8. Insurrektion (into darkness if Jar jar trek counts)
9. Nemesis
10. Generations
5263. Star Trek 2009 if jar jar trek counts.
Its almost as if I saw something so bad I'm refusing to remember it
Bad: Abrams II followed by Abrams I
first 6 are classic movies and were best of their times so in my mind not eligible for that list.
Star Trek: Generations (1994) is a bridge bridge between old fan and younger fan.
so my Best to Worst list
Star Trek: Star Trek (2009) had been the bast spot to start a new many season serie
Star Trek: First Contact (1996)
Star Trek: Into Darkness (2013) still good spot to start new many season series
Star Trek: Insurrection (1998)
Star Trek: Nemesis (2002) good idea that was done all wrong a good spot to start new serie build round a long cold war between federation and the romulan war with spying/ploting, small bettles and some interspecies romance
Honourable mention: ST:VI
Worst: There was this film made in 2009 film; biggest and most expensive fan film made to date.
[un]Honourable mention: ST:V
Some thoughts. Please don't criticize me personally, but because of my issues, I do find it hard to see other point's of view.
I certainly do not see why the 2009 fan film should be anywhere else BUT the bottom. Also, generally speaking: 2009 fan film over 2013 squeal ... err why?
Equally ... I do not see [that much of] the hate of ST:X.
I hope STO get's better ...
TOS:
1: II: Wrath of Khan
2: VI: Undiscovered Country
3: IV: Voyage Home (Guilty pleasure factor here.)
4: III: Search for Spock
5: TMP
6: V: Final Frontier
TNG
1: First Contact
2: Generations
3: Insurrection
4: Nemesis (Seriously, wtf?)
Now, as for the JJ-verse movies...... Tough call, but I'm going to have to give '09 a slight edge over Into Darkness, if only because it didn't feel as 'Retreading Safe Ground' as ID did.
Let me just say that the JJ Verse movies are not horrible.... but they are not great either.
Both movies have slight tinges of having been made in a "safe" manner, especially in the recycling of elements from old scripts. '09 could have been great if they'd included more of the stuff from the supplementary materials in the movie, to give Nero more pathos. However, as has been noted elsewhere, you cannot get credit for something you did not put in your work and just left in your notes.
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