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I don't think with the amount of threats around in STO, the Federation would make it very far.
To be very honest, if I was president, I would be very pacifist from the start. Let the other factions rip themselves to bits, and always trying to stay out of any war.
This has the downside, in a situation like the Dyson Sphere, of people not cooperating with us.
I would only declare war if it was absolutely necessary; if we "needed" to intervene. *Cough* Thaleron Radiation *Cough*
So ... what would you do?
To be very honest, if I was president, I would be very pacifist from the start. Let the other factions rip themselves to bits, and always trying to stay out of any war.
This has the downside, in a situation like the Dyson Sphere, of people not cooperating with us.
I would only declare war if it was absolutely necessary; if we "needed" to intervene. *Cough* Thaleron Radiation *Cough*
So ... what would you do?
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I hope STO get's better ...
I hope STO get's better ...
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-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
With what's going on in light of current STO storyline, the Federation needs to:
1. Step up efforts in finding Undine infiltrators. No easy feat, but it needs to be done because the Federation has done practically NOTHING in this regard. The fact that a Starfleet Admiral and a leading scientist have shown themselves as Undine, should have been a major, MAJOR concern. Emphasis on "shown themselves" because they arrogantly did so after their goals were met. Federation intelligence and security have been laughable.
2. Before anything of critical importance can be done, before anything else is feasible, bring a conclusion to the war with the Klingon Empire. The Federation *is* the largest, most powerful state in the quadrant. But its size also means Starfleet is spread out dealing with multitudes of threats. But the war with the Klingon Empire as an all-encompassing effort. It's a massive drain on ships and personnel. Before the Federation can turn true, meaningful attention to other dangers, peace must be made, and if possible, dredge up the old alliance in light of what's currently going on.
3. Shore up leverage on the Romulan Republic. Federation support for the fledgeling power to garner good will for the future (and gathering intel, of course, as the Rom.Republic builds... you see everything).
4. With what we've seen with the major threats such as Borg, Voth, and now Undine, and if the other 2 conditions can be met, bring back the old Dominion War era alliance between the Federation, Klingon Empire, Romulans. The Federation can meet the threats with others at its side. Or wait as the Federation, Klingon Empire, Romulans get toppled, one by one. In no particular order.
All Starfleet captains named "Kirk" will be dismissed from duty.
All Starfleet captains flying a ship named "Enterprize" will be dismissed from duty and the ships melted down to make souveiner thermos' for the Starfleet Academy Gift shop.
The ability to communicate in zone chat will be restricted to a case-by-case basis. A simple IQ test and exam consisting of no more than 20 questions must be passed with a 90% or higher in order to communicate in zone chat. This exam will be re-assessed on an annual basis to make for adjustments.
The ability to have your opinion 'count' will similarly be restricted to a case-by-case basis. If I were president, I would remove all politicians and replace them with artists, musicians, philosophers, teachers, engineers, and scientists -- who each participated in council votes that pertained specifically to the profession they are qualified to weigh in on.
Democracy in the Starfleet of STO will no longer mean, "My ignorance is equally as valid for decision-making as your knowledge." -- thank you Isaac Asimov. Anyone who complains about this elitist policy-making will be ignored for their own good. A good leader will do the right thing, not the popular thing.
Captain Kurland will be sacked.
Slamek will be elevated to Public Enemy #1.
All Odyssey-class starships will have their paintjobs redone due to the fact the black lettering on the aft of the nacelles are on the black 'andromeda' (default) paintjob. Black lettering on black paint is a correction that must occur.
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I wish you both good luck with each other :mad:
I'd tell them to bow down to the might of the glorious Klingon Empire.
Would the Captain of a US Warship be the one to negotiate and make deals with a head of state such as Putin? Of course not, that is the job of the President and the State department. I understand this might be different with First Contact missions since your starship captain is essentially your first contact representative.
Kirk always tend to meet his Klingon or Romulan counterparts...other captains or commanders.
Like I said a very minor issue. Who knows, maybe in the 24th century starfleet captains have the authority to negotiate with.
I think it is a hold-over from the mindthink of early TOS, and thereby early Fed "history". Similar to the days of sailing ships, before telegraph and wireless, the ship's captain represented his country's sovereignty on the "edge" of the world. It seems the Federation started with this idea as it covered frontier space, but never really abandoned the idea of captains as necessary ambassadors. It did come in handy for Janeway, though admittedly, her actions in the Delta quadrant would not have had swift effect on the Federation.
With the Klingons, at least, there was the matter of the Captains being "known", and being able to throw around the weight of their reputations. In fact, I'd think that sending someone whose career was purely diplomatic to deal with the Klingons would end significantly worse than sending someone who served in the 'Fleet, as they would have much less respect for the desk jockey than any officer. As for the other powers meeting with the captains, they're very far from the home worlds, and in, there was an air that all the captains needed to have some diplomatic training in the event of a First Contact or other interaction. Furthermore, a First Contact is HIGHLY risky, and it's possible that allowing someone who is junior in command to handle proceedings is a way of keeping heads of state from getting endangered by an unknown party who might turn hostile at any moment. This is all just my observations, so if anyone has anything to add.
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Make the Prime Directive an option and not a law.
Beyond that, everything iconians said.
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great empires are not maintained by timidity, one person wrote many years ago.
and the ultimate pacifist government would have nothing to do with war even if the empire gets overrun by klingons and romulans, there is no ships of any combat worth, soldiers or any type of weapons. klingons and romulans will not respect a fool as they are the wind.
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Exactly this. If you're pasifist, you'll have barely any troops and combat capable ships. Cardassians, Klingons and Romulans will destroy you, since they smell weakness.
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Then I would have Section 31 take care off it. As often as Okeg's been in office, he is probably up to something like that.
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Yes.
It's not a "law", per se. It's a Starfleet General Order. General Order One, to be exact. And it's subject to interpretation, rather than etched in stone.
Private citizens are not bound by the Prime Directive, since it doesn't appear to be public law.
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Tell that to Nikolai Rozhenko (Worf's foster brother)...
Also, the Prime Directive is more than a set of rules...
'It is a philosophy, and a very correct one. History has shown that whenever mankind has interfered with another race, no matter how well-intentioned, the result has always been disastrous.'
If the PD isn't a law, it blooming well ought to be...
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The original reason for the Fed-Klingon war is pretty much gone anyway. J'mpok really wanted an excuse to tangle with the Federation for philosophical reasons (and probably political reasons, too), and the Federation has been slapped in the face with the Undine threat so much that it would likely be political suicide for the president to continue to twiddle his thumbs, and might risk parts of Starfleet just ignoring his policy in hopes of defending the Federation.
While it is unlikely to be buddy-buddy for a long time, if ever - there's going to be a lot of bitterness at least Fed-side, though I think the Klingons are more culturally able to accept and move on from the war - simple fact of the matter is that the traditional Alpha Quadrant powers have the wolves at their door. All their doors. And they know it.
Of course, I speculate that the President and J'mpok are likely Undine anyway, so this might be what they were aiming for in the first place
I'm not sure about Okeg, but I doubt J'mpok's an Undine.
My personal theory is this; we know J'mpok's allied with the House's of Torg and Duras, both of whom have conspired with Romulans in the past. While the High Council was outside the Chambers for the duel between J'mpok and Martok, a Romulan assassin could have slain Martok. With no other witnesses, no one would know that J'mpok acted dishonourably and invalidated the challenge.
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you just answered your own doubts, 8472 can just as easily kill someone out of sight without issue like a romulan but instead assume his shape. it doesnt invalidate j'mpok any more then okeg as an infiltrator.
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-- Fire Starfleet Command and get a new group of admirals who don't have their heads up their asses about the conduct of the war (particularly regarding the Undine).
-- Allocate funds to hire a cadre of Lethean mercs to hunt Undine infiltrators, since that seems to work.
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Uhh. So thalaron radiation is more of a concern than the Borg, the Tholians, the Tal'Shiar, the Elachi, the Undine, and the Iconians? Seriously? Sounds to me more like you would be trying to start a war with the New Romulan Republic (a sovereign power with which the UFP is supposed to be allied) than being "very pacifist," and also sounds like foolhardiness on multiple fronts. Or maybe you're just another Undine.
What would I do? Well, I'm in essential agreement with what Iconians said, apart from the first two points (they're not hurting anybody, so let 'em have their Kirks as long as they don't disgrace the name, and the same goes for Enterprise -- although I do think the latter ought to be able to be spelled correctly -- but make them come up with a halfway decent explanation as to how they're flying an "Enterprise" when the Federation's flagship already bears that name), and revising Slamek's status to "Public Enemy Number 1" (he's not really competent enough to merit that designation; just send a Black Ops team from Section 31 to hunt him down and take him out -- although maybe the UFP ought to leave that to the Tal'Diann of the New Romulan Republic, and/or the NRR's Militia Intelligence, instead).
I would also end the war with the Klingons, and mandate that Italian food must be served at no less than one meal per week on all Starfleet vessels, space stations, etc.
And a T5 Connie.
That's a job for the judiciary, not the legislature...
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True, but that doesn't mean he is an Undine infiltrator. I personally feel that J'mpok simply working with Romulans is more likely (especially as his government is actively hunting Undine infiltrators).
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- contact j'mpok and tell him this war is over, doesnt matter if he agrees or not. all federation activites behind klingon lines will come to an end, federation defenses along the border redoubles. if j'mpok is dissatisfied with the outcome, publicly denounce him as dishonorable, cowardly and weak in such a way he can not refuse the challenge to personal combat. defeat him and then absorb the klingons into the federation.
- offer the romulan republic the chance to join the federation and the cardassians and the ferengi. reallocate resources from the former front line with the klingons, redeploy additional resources from the former klingon empire itself and destroy the tal-shiar state, true way bases and deal with the borg.
- setup significant defenses in the dyson sphere, in and around the allied sector and iconian gates.
- increase resources to the former klingon empire and bring them upto date with non military matters, better medicines, technology for the people and better working conditions.
- incorporate technologies from the former klingon empire and the federation into each others vessels and start designing new technologies that show this alliance.
- bring betazoid, lethan and other strong telepaths up front and specialized medical technologies to deal with 8472 infiltrators once and for all.
- assuming the republic joins the federation, bring them upto speed with non military matters. incorporate technologies and designs in the 3 way triad.
- create a special divisions branch that deals with enemy deep cover operatives to uncover any potential back door plots that may exist, like the iconians as there enough circumstanial evidence to fit the thought of such a special intelligence group.
- have starfleet research develop fuse breakers and seat belts for starships.
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