Frankly to the OP and to BlueGeek....I pug and team all the time, and anything they do to the queues doesn't phase me, even though its seems kinda odd that we can queue with Klingons (or FEDS) when in our timeline at least we are at war, but we all know Cryptic/PWE obviously does not care for continuity....
What gets me is these arrogant statements such as "You have killed my only hope to pvp" or the reason you don't pvp is you get "stomped" or get "flamed at" (<-- Blue Geek). Many PvP'ers will only flame you in response to a similar comment such as haxors or whatever... I always say good game regardless.
When I first went out into PvP I went alone, and I got stomped on A LOT and the first group I seen as pvp'ers was Sad Panda's, instead of getting beat down and getting my panties in a bunch I made it my mission to beat them (and i still havent done that yet), I asked people when they beat me how did that, how to improve my ship, my flying etc... even pandas helped me and my fleet mates out.... and now the players who want to learn have something I never did, a Boot Camp where our community is willing to help you guys and show what we do....
Now I'd like to think I've earned myself a respectable place in our little community, by no means I'm the best mind you...
So, sorry bluegeek and to the OP, PvP is a Team based game. Playing with pugs is like kinda against the point, you wanna solo and kirk it, challenge some one to a 1v1 or make a random 10v10. Otherwise, get some friends, join a PvP fleet and get your butt on a VOIP system like Teamspeak3 and learn to play real PvP...because that's really what makes us better PvP'ers the ability and knowledge to communicate...and it also makes for a better game, knowing you and your team did everything you could.
But i expect to get some answer back saying "We shouldn't have to do this and that", I honestly don't care any more, I've just given you the cold hard facts and this is one of the stupidest threads I've seen in here in a while.
Sometimes, I wonder what it would be like if I had a twin - if we could hit the queues and rock the socks off some folks...but I usually soon realize, it would just quickly turn into a competition as to which one of us could blow himself up first...
people that dont like the duo thing desperately need to LRN 2 PLY. it amazes me how people can think this is some problem, or any different then 2 people that know each other, that are any good, and just happen to end up on the same team anyway. this sort of thing happens in literally every single match as it is, there might even be 3 or 4 acquaintances that end up on the same team, oh no!
2 teamed players wont make any sort of difference if the average skill level on both teams is semi even, just 1 bad player can sink a team easily. if the average skill on each team is not even, ask yourself, is that due to me? should i accuse people of 2 man exploiting as if thats a thing to compensate, or actually try to git gud? seriously :rolleyes:
You've got that backwards. It should be Play 2 LRN. Nothing can be learned without playing. Anyone that goes into PvP expecting to rofflestomp the other team the same way it is in PvE, they'll always walk away frustrated. If newbs keep playing against people that rofflestomp them, watch what they use, and when they use it, then they might learn something from it. They should forget about winning and worry about studying how their opponents play, so they can learn how to beat them or at least copy their tactics.
If only PvP matches were recordable and could be replayed in a similar fashion as console racing games do it. Sure, you can make a YouTube video, but you can't switch players, zoom in/out, and use mouse-look to observe the surroundings. Being able to have an engine supported replay system would allow players to review any recorded match, so they could pause the game and examine each buff/debuff applied to an attacker/target. It might even be helpful to put players into observation mode while waiting to respawn.
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You've got that backwards. It should be Play 2 LRN. Nothing can be learned without playing. Anyone that goes into PvP expecting to rofflestomp the other team the same way it is in PvE, they'll always walk away frustrated. If newbs keep playing against people that rofflestomp them, watch what they use, and when they use it, then they might learn something from it. They should forget about winning and worry about studying how their opponents play, so they can learn how to beat them or at least copy their tactics.
If only PvP matches were recordable and could be replayed in a similar fashion as console racing games do it. Sure, you can make a YouTube video, but you can't switch players, zoom in/out, and use mouse-look to observe the surroundings. Being able to have an engine supported replay system would allow players to review any recorded match, so they could pause the game and examine each buff/debuff applied to an attacker/target. It might even be helpful to put players into observation mode while waiting to respawn.
Wait I thought they offered that back around season 7 or so. It allowed you to swing around and stuff but it was also limited.
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Ok, blanket response to OP and supporters. What in Kahless' name do you have against teamwork. Are you too lazy to get teamspeak or skype and chill with a fleet? Join OPvP and get VS's teamspeak channel, or Wolverines. Ask when ppl queue up in pvp and when events are and stuff, get involved. Oh you don't want to do the work it takes to get on a good team and pull your wait. STFU then. I'm so sick of the whiners in this community. Teamwork is and should be the defining point of all MMO's. Oh by the way, star trek online is a MMORPG. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE!!! If you don't want to have to deal with teamwork, go play CoD or some other FPS. Don't TRIBBLE with my teamwork man.
Ok, blanket response to OP and supporters. What in Kahless' name do you have against teamwork. Are you too lazy to get teamspeak or skype and chill with a fleet? Join OPvP and get VS's teamspeak channel, or Wolverines. Ask when ppl queue up in pvp and when events are and stuff, get involved. Oh you don't want to do the work it takes to get on a good team and pull your wait. STFU then. I'm so sick of the whiners in this community. Teamwork is and should be the defining point of all MMO's. Oh by the way, star trek online is a MMORPG. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE!!! If you don't want to have to deal with teamwork, go play CoD or some other FPS. Don't TRIBBLE with my teamwork man.
Well if you queue solo in the current team queue and a 5 man premade is also in the queue you have a 100% chance of being on the opposite team, where as if a 2 man team is in the queue and you are solo it should be a 50 % chance of you being on their team so it should work out pretty good for solo and team players in the queue. Main thing it needs now is cross faction teaming.
Well if you queue solo in the current team queue and a 5 man premade is also in the queue you have a 100% chance of being on the opposite team, where as if a 2 man team is in the queue and you are solo it should be a 50 % chance of you being on their team so it should work out pretty good for solo and team players in the queue. Main thing it needs now is cross faction teaming.
I like cross faction teaming. At least they let 2 people queue together now
Personally a King of the mountain FFA, first person to 30 kills or most kills at the expiration of 15 minute time limit wins 4000 dil. Everyone else gets XP/Skill points and credit for it as it would be a dailyt like the other PvP daily.
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Personally a King of the mountain FFA, first person to 30 kills or most kills at the expiration of 15 minute time limit wins 4000 dil. Everyone else gets XP/Skill points and credit for it as it would be a dailyt like the other PvP daily.
I have a feeling unless the instance is full of rommies, rommies will be targetted first and often. I would expect a free for all to be a minimum of 20 players in a tight map with low ceiling, high floor and only about 30KM between spawn points.
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I have a feeling unless the instance is full of rommies, rommies will be targetted first and often. I would expect a free for all to be a minimum of 20 players in a tight map with low ceiling, high floor and only about 30KM between spawn points.
But the question is can you learn to see in the dark? I cloak as soon as i spawn, wait til the battle gets hairy and decloak on alpha and every buff i can muster, usually getting 2 or 3 kills before i cloak again. An RSP will buy you extra time.
But the question is can you learn to see in the dark? I cloak as soon as i spawn, wait til the battle gets hairy and decloak on alpha and every buff i can muster, usually getting 2 or 3 kills before i cloak again. An RSP will buy you extra time.
I understand but with the map being more constrained you really will not have no where to run. Not to mention it is a race. I will take my chances with you sitting in cloak waiting on CDs.
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What gets me is these arrogant statements such as "You have killed my only hope to pvp" or the reason you don't pvp is you get "stomped" or get "flamed at" (<-- Blue Geek). Many PvP'ers will only flame you in response to a similar comment such as haxors or whatever... I always say good game regardless.
When I first went out into PvP I went alone, and I got stomped on A LOT and the first group I seen as pvp'ers was Sad Panda's, instead of getting beat down and getting my panties in a bunch I made it my mission to beat them (and i still havent done that yet), I asked people when they beat me how did that, how to improve my ship, my flying etc... even pandas helped me and my fleet mates out.... and now the players who want to learn have something I never did, a Boot Camp where our community is willing to help you guys and show what we do....
Now I'd like to think I've earned myself a respectable place in our little community, by no means I'm the best mind you...
So, sorry bluegeek and to the OP, PvP is a Team based game. Playing with pugs is like kinda against the point, you wanna solo and kirk it, challenge some one to a 1v1 or make a random 10v10. Otherwise, get some friends, join a PvP fleet and get your butt on a VOIP system like Teamspeak3 and learn to play real PvP...because that's really what makes us better PvP'ers the ability and knowledge to communicate...and it also makes for a better game, knowing you and your team did everything you could.
But i expect to get some answer back saying "We shouldn't have to do this and that", I honestly don't care any more, I've just given you the cold hard facts and this is one of the stupidest threads I've seen in here in a while.
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wall of text is OP, plz nerf?
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Bring on Lebron as long as he has 3 paraplegics, a blind man on his team, and cinder blocks strapped to his ankles.
Its actually accurate. It pretty much portrays what many of these pug players want. they want to handicap others so they cannot lose.
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Let me rephrase.
Teamwork is OP, plz nerf. In addition, swarming a single player with as many uncoordinated bodies is UP, plz buff?
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Then they can say the won the ultimate pvp.
You've got that backwards. It should be Play 2 LRN. Nothing can be learned without playing. Anyone that goes into PvP expecting to rofflestomp the other team the same way it is in PvE, they'll always walk away frustrated. If newbs keep playing against people that rofflestomp them, watch what they use, and when they use it, then they might learn something from it. They should forget about winning and worry about studying how their opponents play, so they can learn how to beat them or at least copy their tactics.
If only PvP matches were recordable and could be replayed in a similar fashion as console racing games do it. Sure, you can make a YouTube video, but you can't switch players, zoom in/out, and use mouse-look to observe the surroundings. Being able to have an engine supported replay system would allow players to review any recorded match, so they could pause the game and examine each buff/debuff applied to an attacker/target. It might even be helpful to put players into observation mode while waiting to respawn.
Wait I thought they offered that back around season 7 or so. It allowed you to swing around and stuff but it was also limited.
Can't remember if /demorecord is still in the game or not...
+1 for this.:)
I have a feeling unless the instance is full of rommies, rommies will be targetted first and often. I would expect a free for all to be a minimum of 20 players in a tight map with low ceiling, high floor and only about 30KM between spawn points.
I understand but with the map being more constrained you really will not have no where to run. Not to mention it is a race. I will take my chances with you sitting in cloak waiting on CDs.