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New Rep System

chivs116chivs116 Member Posts: 109 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I might have missed something but the new rep (Which I don't like) do we have to start the grind all over again? or is it ready for us in season 9?
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Why don't you like it?

    I seriously doubt we will have to start from Scratch on the ones we have already progressed through (that would be suicide for cryptic and the STO team).

    You will only have to start the species 8472 rep from scratch.
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The only rep you have to grind from the beginning will be the new Undine rep. All the reps you have now will be the same tier after the update.
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  • chivs116chivs116 Member Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Why don't you like it?

    I seriously doubt we will have to start from Scratch on the ones we have already progressed through (that would be suicide for cryptic and the STO team).

    You will only have to start the species 8472 rep from scratch.

    I don't like the idea of going from 24 traits to just 4 space and 4 ground... I just seems wrong.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chivs116 wrote: »
    I might have missed something but the new rep (Which I don't like) do we have to start the grind all over again? or is it ready for us in season 9?

    The new Rep, currently called 8472 Counter Command, is the only one you'll have start from scratch.

    Any that you've previously completed will remain completed when S9 comes into play. The only difference is that these older Reps will be brought into line to make them more like the Dyson rep.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chivs116 wrote: »
    I don't like the idea of going from 24 traits to just 4 space and 4 ground... I just seems wrong.

    Its 4 4 4
    Passive/Active/Skills

    So its not as restrictive as you are saying... you can also select multiples from the same tier that right now lock the other out.

    They are also buffing some of the traits by a lot. In some cases double.
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    Its 4 4 4
    Passive/Active/Skills

    So its not as restrictive as you are saying... you can also select multiples from the same tier that right now lock the other out.

    They are also buffing some of the traits by a lot. In some cases double.

    None of which is necessarily good without major second and third steps.

    ATM, this is unchaining Aux2b from Ep2X all over again......
  • chivs116chivs116 Member Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    ok yes you change which ones you want on...but that means every time you go into battle or do a mission you have to set which ones u want to use. It just wastes time

    I think it would be better if we something like the console system
    have a layout for PvP, a layout for everyday but keep the rep system as it is now
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chivs116 wrote: »
    ok yes you change which ones you want on...but that means every time you go into battle or do a mission you have to set which ones u want to use. It just wastes time

    I think it would be better if we something like the console system
    have a layout for PvP, a layout for everyday but keep the rep system as it is now

    Actually, instead of having to chose, you can build on the fly, to suit the situation... This will be beneficial to you...

    It's basically the same as swapping out Armor consoles to match your enemies weapons.
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  • varthelmvarthelm Member Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Just to chime in...I am in favor of virtually all the recent reputation changes that have come or on thier way. They make the game MUCH more alt friendly which I have argued for some time can only make cryptic more money. A lot of the busy work has been taken from the projects in terms of commodities vs just paying ec. They are also making what I feel is a sensible change regarding rep powers. All good to me vs the alt grind hell that was.
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    chivs116 wrote: »
    ok yes you change which ones you want on...but that means every time you go into battle or do a mission you have to set which ones u want to use. It just wastes time

    I think it would be better if we something like the console system
    have a layout for PvP, a layout for everyday but keep the rep system as it is now

    Well you are assuming they are changing this to bring balance to PvP which they are not.

    This is about Power Creep making it next to impossible for them to tune PvE mission difficulty.

    See the last major STF.. Hive as it highlights the issue. If they make content hard it challanges the players that have all the gear all the rep and nice tight builds... On the other hand it annoys the heck out of a larger group of players that do not... and new players can't complete it at all.

    Hive was nerfed I think 3 times. It is also the only mission in 2 years now that was released with out a Hard timer on it... they added hard timers because they know what rewards they want people to have after X amount of time playing... but there is no way to have a Set amount of time per mission with out a timer right now. New players take 10min to complete STFs still and sometimes even fail them... those of us with full reps and gear can pile through them in under 2 min on average. That is a major issue for a game designer.
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  • devadiddevadid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    johngazman wrote: »
    The new Rep, currently called 8472 Counter Command, is the only one you'll have start from scratch.

    Any that you've previously completed will remain completed when S9 comes into play. The only difference is that these older Reps will be brought into line to make them more like the Dyson rep.

    thx for that post .. yeah i aint grinding for that **** maybe the ground gear like i did with dyson but all that extra **** can just kick rocks i have fleet gear for a reason .. because its worth it .. idk why they keep messing with things i like and not fixing or improving the stuff that i dont but i hear that with everyone on these post and in zone chats .. maybe season 9 will be the final season with the way things are looking for the game.
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  • sophus84atsophus84at Member Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    how is 4/4/4 better than 20 now?? Oo make it 4/4 and 16 as the 4 actives are mandatory and there are only 4 active powers

    so we have 4 ground and 4 space compared to now 8 ground and 8 space.... (plus the 4 actives for both)


    it still isnt better ..... yea i can no slot two T2 powers.. or two T4 powers of the same rep... great? Oo nah before i could have one passive for each rank for each rep and i still could chse what i liked more. now it takes away 8 choices for me. how the hell is this better as a player i now have to chose always some powers but not having all those i like. as i cant slot more than 4 space. and even with doubled buffs and whatsoever. nearly all my ships on tribble now have 4 k less hull or shields depending on which 4 passive space powers i got rid of.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    No one claimed you would have a more powerful ship after. Read the Devs blog, they explain why they are making the change.

    Yes this has led some people to scream nerf because they think that is a bad word.
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  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I see why the OP may have asked the question. I got on Tribble and all the reps were reset to 0 with a newly transferred to Tribble character that has tiers on Live.

    So if it's not resetting them to 0 even though what they will unlock is given, that means if you are tier 3 of one rep, you will have to redo it from scratch to unlock tier 4.

    Cryptic better be sure about this not being a bug before it goes live.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    darthstormstrike wrote: »
    I see why the OP may have asked the question. I got on Tribble and all the reps were reset to 0 with a newly transferred to Tribble character that has tiers on Live.

    So if it's not resetting them to 0 even though what they will unlock is given, that means if you are tier 3 of one rep, you will have to redo it from scratch to unlock tier 4.

    Cryptic better be sure about this not being a bug before it goes live.

    That is not a bug. It has worked that way since Season 7 went live. Reputation progress is not transferred over to Tribble.
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Don't sweet it is just a tribble thing. Rep hasn't transfered over to tribble ever.

    When the devs said we should all go check it out this weekend. I was going to say something... then thought no if they said we should test it perhaps they have at last fixed that so the toon copy stuff works for rep. I haven't transfered anything since pre arc, so I figured they must have got it fixed.

    Well seems they screwed that one up. I'm sure the op wasn't the only one wondering what was up.
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  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Ok. So it's a bug but not in the same sense of it. It's a character copy bug. lol
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