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  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Sure, and a new Faction could be Cardassians allying with Fed or KDF to protect themselves from True Way and Dominion.

    Or a new Faction could be Liberated Borg allying with Fed or KDF to protect themselves from Borg and Undine.

    Or a new Faction could be Xindi allying with Fed or KDF to protect themselves from the Sphere Builders.

    Or...

    A new Faction could be anything, but Cryptic does not want to do another new Faction this year. Personally, I am happy about that as I do not need another race to level. I need more end-game content for all the characters I already have. :)
    One thing is certain a third fleet system will not happen.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    One thing is certain a third fleet system will not happen.
    I an not big into absolute statements. If you had asked me 4 years ago if STO would have alien ships usable by players, a Dyson Sphere zone, and be a FTP game I would have told you NO. Who knows what STO might be 4 years from now. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I an not big into absolute statements. If you had asked me 4 years ago if STO would have alien ships usable by players, a Dyson Sphere zone, and be a FTP game I would have told you NO. Who knows what STO might be 4 years from now. :)
    Let me preface, in my opinion, stos technical capabilites have hit the ceiling. And I hope they will prove me wrong. But all i see is reworked canned content.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Let me preface, in my opinion, stos technical capabilites have hit the ceiling. And I hope they will prove me wrong. But all i see is reworked canned content.
    Recently you have only seen re-worked, canned content because of the short time allotted between Season 8.5 and Season 9. It has nothing to do with the tech ceiling. It is simply easier to re-tool Mirror Invasion and make it an weeks-long Event; which then gives the Devs the time they need to finish Season 9.

    Cryptic does not always have control over their schedule. The Marketing Team does.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Recently you have only seen re-worked, canned content because of the short time allotted between Season 8.5 and Season 9. It has nothing to do with the tech ceiling. It is simply easier to re-tool Mirror Invasion and make it an weeks-long Event; which then gives the Devs the time they need to finish Season 9.

    Cryptic does not always have control over their schedule. The Marketing Team does.
    Still no sto. And your absolutely correct. Do you think the marketing made this season .5 nonsense a permenant feature from now on? And will everyone be happy with no big things as they posted in the 2013 reflections as stos future?
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Still no sto. And your absolutely correct. Do you think the marketing made this season .5 nonsense a permenant feature from now on? And will everyone be happy with no big things as a policy?
    One person's big thing is another person's dust mite. Debating the subjective is a waste of time, IMO. There are things that have been added to the game that I love, hate, or have no feelings about either way. Some of them have come in Seasons, some in LoR, some just showed up in Patch Notes along the way. Hype is always better then no hype - which is why the .5 Seasons will probably keep coming as opposed to just adding them in without fanfare as they have in the past.

    I play a lot of games and I think most people would really be surprised to look back between the 3rd Anniversary and the 4th Anniversary Events and see just how much "stuff" was added to this game in that year. It is a lot more then most people give the company credit for; and a lot more then most of the other MMOs I play.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    He is talking about the Reflections Blog Smirk did back on the 16th of December: http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/star-trek-online/detail/3027773-2013-reflections That is where he took the quote from; but there have been other Dev statements about the new Expansion Pack since that time - which, apparently, he has missed.

    Thank you Cosmic - wish the OP had explained this in the opening post, and not gone off on a wall of text rant.
    as if that works on ye olde interwebs. Here the law of the land is "Pics or it didn't happen." :P

    So true, though I don't demand pictures - but a link to what the thread creator is referring to would have been nice.

    He seems to think I can read his mind and know what he is on about :confused:
    It's originally a German word, though it often misspelled in the US.

    Cool, thanks. At least I have learnt something in this thread - so it wasn't totally pointless
    Now Your getting the point of believing anything they post. Which is the point of this thread. EX> changing the episode history of the undine.

    I've been with STO since open beta - I went lifetime before the game was released, and took flak from the community for it - with all the people saying the game would be dead within a year.

    Plans change, leadership changes (our current leader, was a temp stand in before and we do not know if we are keeping him), goals change, targets change.

    As far as I know, Cryptic employees do not "deliberately" lie to us. They tell us, what they know to be true, at the time they say it. That information does change, sometimes takes months to change, other times it takes about an hour and a half - but they did not lie to us, they just could not keep up with the rest of the information.

    So if your point, if your thread is all about Cryptic telling lies - you are gravely mistaken. And if you are so childish as not to listen to reason or explanation on why Cryptic and their employees are not "evil liars" and "ultimate spawn of Satan the Devil" ~ then you need to go find another game.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I an not big into absolute statements. If you had asked me 4 years ago if STO would have alien ships usable by players, a Dyson Sphere zone, and be a FTP game I would have told you NO. Who knows what STO might be 4 years from now. :)

    If you asked me if STO would still be here four years ago I would have said no. :P
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    LoR was so successful for STO that they can't not try to repeat it. Their business model- not to mention common sense- practically requires them to.

    Can they do it by late 2014? I have my doubts about that. But whether it comes this year or next year, it's coming.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    If you asked me if STO would still be here four years ago I would have said no. :P
    I probably would of as well - especially considering where the economy was back in 2010. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It's originally a German word, though it often misspelled in the US.

    Much like "Schadenfreude". :D
  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    One person's big thing is another person's dust mite. Debating the subjective is a waste of time, IMO. There are things that have been added to the game that I love, hate, or have no feelings about either way. Some of them have come in Seasons, some in LoR, some just showed up in Patch Notes along the way. Hype is always better then no hype - which is why the .5 Seasons will probably keep coming as opposed to just adding them in without fanfare as they have in the past.

    I play a lot of games and I think most people would really be surprised to look back between the 3rd Anniversary and the 4th Anniversary Events and see just how much "stuff" was added to this game in that year. It is a lot more then most people give the company credit for; and a lot more then most of the other MMOs I play.
    I've given up on sto coming back on line tonight so good night to all and to all a good night.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I've given up on sto coming back on line tonight so good night to all and to all a good night.
    Have a good one! Dream about Orion girls. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I probably would of as well - especially considering where the economy was back in 2010. :)

    Also licensed MMO's have a tendency to die. :rolleyes:
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Have a good one! Dream about Orion girls. :)

    Sexy Orion Girls. :D
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Sexy Orion Girls. :D
    I thought all Orion girls were sexy? :)

    The poor plain Orion girl... :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I thought all Orion girls were sexy? :)

    The poor plain Orion girl... :)

    That's just the booze. :P
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Much like "Schadenfreude". :D

    Is it bad, that reminded me of Two and a Half Men ?

    And how hot Rose was (in a girl next door, kind of way).

    Plus how sexy she sounded saying that word......




    Anyway, new topic... about my wife, whom I cherish and adore.....

    ;)
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Can i point out for a second....ALL you non believers and one of those just happened to me me ....for the longest time before LOR was even announced the fourms filled with 2 camps one was NO mini faction the other was just expansion TRIBBLE and a cap increase (i was on this side) there wasnt really much to point to a mini faction ........soooo then they announced a mini faction and it was a amazing success .........now with that under the belt and tons of content they can redo and now knowing how to do it ergo making the next mini faction time to live smaller .....yeah folks it a mini faction they are about making money and this is a huge money maker for them lol new faction ??? ...well then that means new ways to keep you playing new dil sink hell i can see it now BUY THE NEW RISE OF CARDASSIA ship pack today !!!! 169.99 thats a 40% savings!!! guys they have been working on it since well before december of last year its coming and this time its easier for them to make it happen they have more folks on it and more resources (money) given to them by PWE oh yeah its coming...new mini faction..the question is will it be cadassians? (my bet) the dominion? or the borg (darkhorse)
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  • enderghostenderghost Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    One of the main reasons Roms are not a full Faction is because Cryptic does not want 3-way PVP - whether it is too much trouble to code or they cannot code it. Thus every new Faction added to the game will have to be in an alliance with the Blue or Red side.

    Possibly, not to mention the slight (but easily resolve-able) issue of the romulans having warbirds which would cause some complaining from feds or klingons.

    But one thing to note is that in the STO wiki 'upcoming content' page there is mention of them reworking pvp, I wouldn't be surprised to see them have a three-way or possibly four-way pvp system- but forgive me if I'm mistaken, but would three way pvp only be a problem if the pvp was open world? As it is with just being ques I don't see much trouble.
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    enderghost wrote: »
    Possibly, not to mention the slight (but easily resolve-able) issue of the romulans having warbirds which would cause some complaining from feds or klingons.

    But one thing to note is that in the STO wiki 'upcoming content' page there is mention of them reworking pvp, I wouldn't be surprised to see them have a three-way or possibly four-way pvp system- but forgive me if I'm mistaken, but would three way pvp only be a problem if the pvp was open world? As it is with just being ques I don't see much trouble.

    3 way isnt happening they have enough trouble getting people to que as it is ad 3 way to that ...yea h a snooze fest which is one of the resaons they are doing cross faction
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  • robbie222222robbie222222 Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    wildweasal wrote: »
    Can i point out for a second....ALL you non believers and one of those just happened to me me ....for the longest time before LOR was even announced the fourms filled with 2 camps one was NO mini faction the other was just expansion TRIBBLE and a cap increase (i was on this side) there wasnt really much to point to a mini faction ........soooo then they announced a mini faction and it was a amazing success .........now with that under the belt and tons of content they can redo and now knowing how to do it ergo making the next mini faction time to live smaller .....yeah folks it a mini faction they are about making money and this is a huge money maker for them lol new faction ??? ...well then that means new ways to keep you playing new dil sink hell i can see it now BUY THE NEW RISE OF CARDASSIA ship pack today !!!! 169.99 thats a 40% savings!!! guys they have been working on it since well before december of last year its coming and this time its easier for them to make it happen they have more folks on it and more resources (money) given to them by PWE oh yeah its coming...new mini faction..the question is will it be cadassians? (my bet) the dominion? or the borg (darkhorse)
    If you read the previous posts on this subject ,the new faction will not be any that have characters or ships in the sto game at this time. The technical difficults of rewriting the previous 8 seasons is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Reworking the reputation system has led to the LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES and the star trek team at STO is backtracking like crazy with all the promises they made. That is what this blog is about. OVER PROMISE AND UNDER DEEELEEEVER.
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