Interesting. I never tried with my Fed Aligned Reman since my Recluse carrier, T'Varo, Daeinos, or Ha'apax cover all the styles I want to play. I figured that the Andorian set was available accountwide to my Fed characters. Good to know.
I use only 2 of the 3 on my Charal. I used the wing cannon platforms for awhile, but put them away because they were pretty fragile and I wanted the console slot for something else.
Well I'd use all or NOTHING coming with it. Because again, IMO the only thing of any value coming out of the set is the 3 set bonus.
Right now I use all because... hell I paid for it :P
But if I hadn't already bought the ship I'd go with the charal (if I'd buy any at all) alone and would throw EVERYTHING out, including the wing cannons.
If I ever do pvp or run into trouble in pve all the andorian stuff is gone.
For the khyzon I was thinking of using those science consoles for a couple flow capacitors, plasmonic leach, and maybe a field generator. I don't tend to use more than 2 armor consoles so I might as well have some space to boost my plasmonic leach.
The kumari just looks wierd being locked with what is it: CMDR, LTC and a LT tac boff?
The charal is certainly an option, I have not made up my mind yet. It is hard for me to resist slotting 2 or 3 flow capacitors and a field gen at the same time. Looks like having your cake and eating it to.:D
Thing is its not "extra". If you only want to use 2 eng consoles you can put the leech there. If you do not want that many tac consoles you can put something there too. You are not forced to use them for armor, but at least in my opinion, its better to have the CHOICE left to put something usefull in it later.
The Kumari herself (=tac version) is useless IMO. I wouldn't know what to do with that BO setup, and I would even know less how to survive any elite content with that limited amount of ENg/Sci abilities.
I personally waited for the Kumari/Andorian ships since they were even mentioned the first time. I was a big fan of the Television version and I wanted a non-starfleet-escort ship for my in-rp-mercanary-tac.
Then they were announced to be released about a month after the D'Kyr.
That was the longest month ever, I won't lie... I think that one month was about 2 years long.
So when it was finally there I bought the 2 pack without even taking a look at the stats, idiot I am.
IMO it still looks good (or can be made looking good), I might even like my version better then the on screen original (although the even the Kumari doesn't look at all like the Kumari from enterprise) and therefore I might still buy one version.
But for a 50 bugs 3 pack, on a technical level, its a massive disappointment.
It is true that extra engineer consoles are more useful, extra science consoles have only one use on this ship that I can see. Hmmmmm, I might be convinced. 3 flow capacitors does seem a bit overkill for only boosting the plasmonic leach.
Well I'd use all or NOTHING coming with it. Because again, IMO the only thing of any value coming out of the set is the 3 set bonus.
The 3 set bonus didn't really wow me. But the Tactical MEGA gun has come in handy very very often in just about every piece of content I've flown it in. And the science cannon helps against tactical cubes from time to time.
It's just me. I like them added buttons. If I need more space I may revisit things eventually. But I pretty much just locked it into what it has and haven't really thought about changing the consoles in ages.
I did recently tweak all of my BOFF powers and switch up my power usage. For Borg STFs, low engine power was always fine since it's basically a sit there and pew at objects type of situation. But with the Mirror invasion and a lot of other things I fly it in now, I want to fly faster, dodge more and turn better. I upped my engine power. And tweaked my BOFF powers to reflect the changes I made to shields and engines.
I'm actually dogfighting a bit for the first time in years.
Pretty much the only ship I flew from its release up to getting the Breen raider was the tac one. Gives you the ability to run two csv's with two crf's and two apb's. Also, 3 rommie buffs and 5 tac consoles. Stuff just melted in pve, and cycling 2 ep2s with an a2sif, and the right doffs it wasn't that explodey.
The lack of he was a bit of a git though. Getting tractored was fine, if the tractorer was in my front 45.
The 3 set bonus didn't really wow me. But the Tactical MEGA gun has come in handy very very often in just about every piece of content I've flown it in. And the science cannon helps against tactical cubes from time to time.
It's just me. I like them added buttons. If I need more space I may revisit things eventually. But I pretty much just locked it into what it has and haven't really thought about changing the consoles in ages.
I did recently tweak all of my BOFF powers and switch up my power usage. For Borg STFs, low engine power was always fine since it's basically a sit there and pew at objects type of situation. But with the Mirror invasion and a lot of other things I fly it in now, I want to fly faster, dodge more and turn better. I upped my engine power. And tweaked my BOFF powers to reflect the changes I made to shields and engines.
I'm actually dogfighting a bit for the first time in years.
Mhm... for me... neither the overload nor that shield thing ever "wow"ed me. (But actually nothing about the Andorian escorts ever wowed me, see my previous post^^ Probably had to high expectations)
Not that I don't use them frequently, since I have them^^
But luckily we all can make the builds we like^^
With the mirror event... I have the feeling that a lot of things I'm used to do in Borg STFs do not work here. (wich is, TBH, the only good thing coming out of it, since I like changing things up)
As a matter of fact, I run the thing with 6 chars, and the "best" performing one of all is my KDF-tac wich, stubbornly still flying a Hegh'ta, sucks a pretty much everything else nowadays.
As a matter of fact, I run the thing with 6 chars, and the "best" performing one of all is my KDF-tac wich, stubbornly still flying a Hegh'ta, sucks a pretty much everything else nowadays.
I know right? I'm doing it in a b'rel and having a great time. It's working way better than in stfs lol.
I rather enjoy the charal myself for a couple of reasons. Mostly reasons that would make a min/maxer roll their eyes. I really enjoy the look, especially since i find many fed ships quite horrid in appearance.. I rarely see other andorian ships in stfs, which is another selling point (it's not an avenger, or a scimi, or lately, a gal cruiser) It gets the job done and puts out respectable numbers. Not that any of that matters, as you can clear the game's content with stock free ships. I don't pvp either which is another subject entirely and all ships are not created equal there (which is the reason I don't pvp) so the charal works more than well enough for pve content.
As a matter of fact, I run the thing with 6 chars, and the "best" performing one of all is my KDF-tac wich, stubbornly still flying a Hegh'ta, sucks a pretty much everything else nowadays.
LOL, my mirror qin and T4 prometheus are also doing better than my fancy cruisers. That is what got me thinking about escorts again.
Wish the KDF had a counterpart to the Andorian escort variants. That's the kind of ship you'd expect from the KDF, if anything. . .the epitome of the 'glass cannon' concept.
Most of the time the captains are quite skilled from my experience. For something built frail I don't see them dead very often. I suppose if anyone still flies them they know what they're doing. Unlike some other ships that become flavors.
Most of the time the captains are quite skilled from my experience. For something built frail I don't see them dead very often. I suppose if anyone still flies them they know what they're doing. Unlike some other ships that become flavors.
If they're flying the Charal, it's not frail at all.
Most of the time the captains are quite skilled from my experience. For something built frail I don't see them dead very often. I suppose if anyone still flies them they know what they're doing. Unlike some other ships that become flavors.
Actually I switched back to my defiant for the mirror event :cool:
Does anyone fly the kumari, the tac version? I am just curious if anyone prefers it over the other two. That boff layout is a serious detractor.
I am definitely getting the charal.
if the kumari, instead of an ensign engineering had an ensign science or universal, i'd go for it. You only need HE1, but you most certainly need 2 engi boff slots.
For a tac captain it is too squishy, but as an engi captain it is a seriously good ship and you offset the squishyness.
Does anyone fly the kumari, the tac version? I am just curious if anyone prefers it over the other two. That boff layout is a serious detractor.
I am definitely getting the charal.
I do, and prefer it to the charal. With the right gear its far from the "glass cannon" that people claim it to be. I even use 2 of the special "gimmick" consoles.
Still might get the sci version to complete the set.
Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
Does anyone fly the kumari, the tac version? I am just curious if anyone prefers it over the other two. That boff layout is a serious detractor.
I am definitely getting the charal.
I mentioned earlier in the thread that the Kumari is the most potent cannon platform that exists for Fed Engineers. Rotate Shield Frequency and Miracle Worker provide all the extra healing you need that you dont get from your Sci boff (Universal LT slot). If your an Engy, give it a shot. Bonus points for getting the Advanced Fleet Andorian Phasers (yeah, yeah Antiproton is best, blah, blah) for pure coolness factor.
Looking at it, the kumari has only one less eng boff power than the fleet defiant and it gains a DHC. Hmmmmmm, I am starting to think about getting the 3 pack.
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Interesting. I never tried with my Fed Aligned Reman since my Recluse carrier, T'Varo, Daeinos, or Ha'apax cover all the styles I want to play. I figured that the Andorian set was available accountwide to my Fed characters. Good to know.
Well I'd use all or NOTHING coming with it. Because again, IMO the only thing of any value coming out of the set is the 3 set bonus.
Right now I use all because... hell I paid for it :P
But if I hadn't already bought the ship I'd go with the charal (if I'd buy any at all) alone and would throw EVERYTHING out, including the wing cannons.
If I ever do pvp or run into trouble in pve all the andorian stuff is gone.
Thing is its not "extra". If you only want to use 2 eng consoles you can put the leech there. If you do not want that many tac consoles you can put something there too. You are not forced to use them for armor, but at least in my opinion, its better to have the CHOICE left to put something usefull in it later.
The Kumari herself (=tac version) is useless IMO. I wouldn't know what to do with that BO setup, and I would even know less how to survive any elite content with that limited amount of ENg/Sci abilities.
I personally waited for the Kumari/Andorian ships since they were even mentioned the first time. I was a big fan of the Television version and I wanted a non-starfleet-escort ship for my in-rp-mercanary-tac.
Then they were announced to be released about a month after the D'Kyr.
That was the longest month ever, I won't lie... I think that one month was about 2 years long.
So when it was finally there I bought the 2 pack without even taking a look at the stats, idiot I am.
IMO it still looks good (or can be made looking good), I might even like my version better then the on screen original (although the even the Kumari doesn't look at all like the Kumari from enterprise) and therefore I might still buy one version.
But for a 50 bugs 3 pack, on a technical level, its a massive disappointment.
It is true that extra engineer consoles are more useful, extra science consoles have only one use on this ship that I can see. Hmmmmm, I might be convinced. 3 flow capacitors does seem a bit overkill for only boosting the plasmonic leach.
The 3 set bonus didn't really wow me. But the Tactical MEGA gun has come in handy very very often in just about every piece of content I've flown it in. And the science cannon helps against tactical cubes from time to time.
It's just me. I like them added buttons. If I need more space I may revisit things eventually. But I pretty much just locked it into what it has and haven't really thought about changing the consoles in ages.
I did recently tweak all of my BOFF powers and switch up my power usage. For Borg STFs, low engine power was always fine since it's basically a sit there and pew at objects type of situation. But with the Mirror invasion and a lot of other things I fly it in now, I want to fly faster, dodge more and turn better. I upped my engine power. And tweaked my BOFF powers to reflect the changes I made to shields and engines.
I'm actually dogfighting a bit for the first time in years.
The lack of he was a bit of a git though. Getting tractored was fine, if the tractorer was in my front 45.
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Mhm... for me... neither the overload nor that shield thing ever "wow"ed me. (But actually nothing about the Andorian escorts ever wowed me, see my previous post^^ Probably had to high expectations)
Not that I don't use them frequently, since I have them^^
But luckily we all can make the builds we like^^
With the mirror event... I have the feeling that a lot of things I'm used to do in Borg STFs do not work here. (wich is, TBH, the only good thing coming out of it, since I like changing things up)
As a matter of fact, I run the thing with 6 chars, and the "best" performing one of all is my KDF-tac wich, stubbornly still flying a Hegh'ta, sucks a pretty much everything else nowadays.
I know right? I'm doing it in a b'rel and having a great time. It's working way better than in stfs lol.
LOL, my mirror qin and T4 prometheus are also doing better than my fancy cruisers. That is what got me thinking about escorts again.
Most of the time the captains are quite skilled from my experience. For something built frail I don't see them dead very often. I suppose if anyone still flies them they know what they're doing. Unlike some other ships that become flavors.
If they're flying the Charal, it's not frail at all.
I am definitely getting the charal.
Actually I switched back to my defiant for the mirror event :cool:
if the kumari, instead of an ensign engineering had an ensign science or universal, i'd go for it. You only need HE1, but you most certainly need 2 engi boff slots.
For a tac captain it is too squishy, but as an engi captain it is a seriously good ship and you offset the squishyness.
I do, and prefer it to the charal. With the right gear its far from the "glass cannon" that people claim it to be. I even use 2 of the special "gimmick" consoles.
Still might get the sci version to complete the set.
http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=kumarixixa21_0
The build is only to do dmg and nice crits. I have (of course) 3 romulan boffs from the embassy. With the help of those I get up to 18% crit.
The build is not that great for everyone, but I like. I always have an APB2/3 and CRF or CSV to activate. I like that very much.
And because of the spire consoles this ship makes crits up to 10-11k without APA or APB in ESTFs. This is really ridiculous.
I like that very much and would never use another escort at the moment.
I mentioned earlier in the thread that the Kumari is the most potent cannon platform that exists for Fed Engineers. Rotate Shield Frequency and Miracle Worker provide all the extra healing you need that you dont get from your Sci boff (Universal LT slot). If your an Engy, give it a shot. Bonus points for getting the Advanced Fleet Andorian Phasers (yeah, yeah Antiproton is best, blah, blah) for pure coolness factor.