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Cryptic Where is BIRD OF PRAY with FLANKING BONUSES
plummyg33g
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Again, KDF is being neglected
FEDs are going to get Galaxy Class Retrofit and we cant get stinking flanking bonuses for birds of pray.
Remember they promised that flanking bonus before winter event and still nothing
cmon that is really not fair.
Cryptic how can you expect that ratio Fed vs KDF is going to be 50% : 50% when you constantly nerfing KDF players.
FEDs are going to get Galaxy Class Retrofit and we cant get stinking flanking bonuses for birds of pray.
Remember they promised that flanking bonus before winter event and still nothing
cmon that is really not fair.
Cryptic how can you expect that ratio Fed vs KDF is going to be 50% : 50% when you constantly nerfing KDF players.
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Seriously... Wan't them to do it fast, or right?
Cause whenever Cryptic does somthing fast, it ends up buggy.
On a side note: For all of these threads I see, I secretly wish that it takes a extra month on top of what time it already takes... Currently it seems to be working... Expect your flanking BoP sometime in 2016.
stop overreacting, it will come when it comes.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
Yeah no one ever saw it but some people believe in it
I have to admit this made me chuckle.
Also don't expect the devs to do anything KDF for awhile, it takes them awhile to remember that we exist.
Coming soon (TM), as part of a trinity pack.
People have been asking for the Gal and Gal-X updates a lot longer than the idea of flanking bonuses, so wrong thing to compare with there.
And while I'd love them to hurry up with flanking for my B'rel as I have 2 KDF who fly it, it's not exactly game breaking not having it yet - they don't have to give it to us at all. So some patience is probably going to be needed.
Gal-X has been a topic for years now.. flanking is for... 2 months?? get patient.
all you people can do is whining.
gal-x is finally re-done and a seconds after the announcement topics with make it harder.. or the kdf topics with make it weaker its too OP come...
grow up people really. its a game and supposed to be fun.. if the FEDs get a ship thats OP for once in a while... let them... you still have the best ship with the BoP. and adapt new tactics if you cant win agains a new fed ship. but i doubt any fed ship is too OP for PvP yet. and for PvE?? who the frig cares?
flanking will come when it comes.. they said it will be done until season 9.. that can be shortly before season 9 or during it.. we have 8.5 now.... so enjoy the game until then and give some fekking credit that in the last year cryptic made a huge step forward for player based critics. and gave a way huge amount of freebies.
so... i wont whine about anything
i for the first time say:
THANK YOU CRYPTIC, take your time, just make it good.
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Wait, theres still FvK PvP?
WHEN?
WHERE?
I WANT SOME.
Feds wont queue up anymore, despite having lolromulans in Tvaros.
So dont give me that line, I play both sides and I know the truth. KDF actually gets owned silly by fed roms in most cases (in those ultra rare instances when a fed group will actually grow a pair and queue up, or god forbid pug it). The BOPs need this buff now.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
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KDF PvP success in the queues is mostly due to a core of long-time players being pitted against a team that doesn't know each other, contains a number of new players and generally doesn't cooperate. These same people'd wreak havoc in the FvF queues, if they put their minds to it, I bet.
I have four fed characters (non roms) that will fight KDF any day of the week.
Its actually the other feds that are the hard ones.
You really dont understand the sheer level of power creep love the feds got in the last year, do you?
Im not sure if youre even serious at this point, or just havent pvped in a while, because outside of HOBOs, there are literally no competitive KDF fleets I even know of anymore.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
but the really funny thing is.. the point was.. all the whining. and yet the only response is one of whining again.
powercreep is insanely high aye. and IF a faction is OP its the Rom in my eyes.. thats why i started playing a few toons on rom side. i still pvp, with my kdf toon, and with the rom fed toon. but my fed toon in my fed ships i queue often enough just t be alphastriked and blown into bits in 5 seconds. then i switch.
YOU can fur sure compete every kdf toon. and im in awe, but the majority on FED is casual players and they wont queue up if the PvP system stays as it is.
crossfaction shuttle pvp is more fun than normal pvp. as there the chances are more even.
and for the thing you keep thinking that i am not serious i am.. i am dead serious that i am sick of all the whining here. every 2nd topic is one about nerf something here. that is OP there make this better , you fekked up this cryptic you have done that cryptic....
seriously? stop playing if you all whine so much. or adapt.
i didnt win on fed ships so i choose rom fed.. no whining here. or if i want to have just some fun i play my kdf.
if i get blown into bits then yeah my fault.
but i dont blame cryptic for it...
BoPs need some love AYe they do but its not the most urgent thing in the game. just becasue its harder to win with an KDF ship now?? uhuh.. cry me a river
so i keep asking myself do you understand why i posted this? as all what comes in response is the same whining of making this better and that.
istaed of fixing the game mechanics at the core. whine about the power creep and the fekked up PvP system.
but adding another new power to a ship that has just universal spots and is stil on par with others will for sure lower the power creep... :rolleyes:
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It does seem that most if not all the PVP matches that you can get into without having to wait 45 min - 2 hours to get into is FVF PVP.
My Fleet likes to PVP and we have both fed and kdf fleets but most if not all members will only que up for FVF and seem to forget that the KDF side even exists.
There's nothing that the KDF side has that the Fed side can't get save for the Assimlator Console.
Anyone saying that the KDF is OP in PVP needs to wake up and be welcomed to 2014 :rolleyes:
The problem is, you still believe in what cryptic says, lol. And i dont think a BOP needs flanking bonuses, seriously, a bop has maybe the best turning speed in the game, y the hell do you need flanking bonuses??? i dont get it.
PvP is dead, and only a few of persons plays it. Unfortunately. We not saying klingons are op in pvp, we saying they have more advantajes than feds. And it is a truth like a temple. Almost all the klingon ships until T5 (same as romulans) have a really stupid turn rate. Only some escorts and small ships in the fed faction have that turn rate. But romulans are worst, you can even pilot a heavy advanced warbird and have the same turn speed than a defiant or a breen raider or hell, even better!!. LOL. But you cant have that with a Fed.
Uhm.....because it only has 6 weapons, hull made of paper and shields made of prayers so it can't even put out continuous damage? Or the fact that there are no 5 tac.consoles BoPs and only one with 4 tac.consoles(and it's the uggliest one). Or maybe the insane defensive power creep that has been going on for well over a year now that enables ships to have such defenses and resistances that a poor spike oriented BoP is starting to have serious issues piercing?
Yeah, the BoPs need this buff and then some.
¿?¿? LOL. I have a heavy bird of pray and i cant even remember the name, but i am amazed on how that ship owns everything. Yeah i need to be careful because i am dead once my shields are down, but i can kill EVERYTHING without effort, i mean i have cannons and torpedoes. I can do a hit and run and then, go back, i waste about 1,5 seconds to turn again and i make another hit and run. Thats the way bops are designed to fight. And honestly i dont get why they should need more flanking bonuses. Of course, a bop is not designed to have beams, since they are fast, maneourveable ships, so if you want beams on a bop, thats your call, but dont ask for "flanking bonuses" because you want to use beams on the bop.. lol.
But thennnnnn further more that stupid console you can equip on Fleet Avenger Battle Cruiser with stupid buff console, and then little BOP can just watch you smile and killing everything in the PVP.
Lets see in few months feds will be able to equip stupid cloaking device console on every ship they have.
By the way do you know how it is hard to even proc flanking bonus in pvp where players constantly moving?
You are defnitely new to the game, as it seems.
The Defiant cloak is USELESS. That for a start. Yes federation ships has great consoles, but klingons have as well. So? no. Dont worry you will never see cloacking devices on fed ships (because Federation ships dont use cloak, the Defiant is an exception). Not only Federation ships dont use cloak, the cloak is not allowed to use by the Federadion directives. You need to watch more star trek lol.
Actually the Avenger/ Dreadnaught / and defiant can use the cloaking console, also this is a game not the TV series...
On another note telling someone they're new because they believe the cloaking console is useful (which it is) makes you simply look stupid -.-
Defiant is a escort, it wont be getting the bonus. It's specific to the Breen raider and BoPs for now.
Well, maybe you expect them to stay still while you fire at em..
And as said in tons of posts, pvp is half - broken. Dont blame the BOP, blame cryptic for not making the pvp system better lol. I tell you again, i have, for example a kumari escort with 5 cannons in the front. And I DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM firing at any ship, because my kumari can do 2 turns in less than 5 seconds. And cannons have the less angle of fire in the game (dual heavy cannons i mean). So, if you cant do that with a BOP (that is even easier) then the problem are your pilot skills, nothing more. The only ship with flanking bonuses in the game i think its the breen raider, i cant recall any other ship with those bonuses.
It clearly must be that Je'SuS class I heard about in another thread.
Anyways, it doesn't sound like you fly the thing very much at all and probably haven't flown it in a very long time. Who knows for that matter if you have even done it in PvP?
Might be a safe assumption that you're just spouting out stuff.
The Avenger is a non canon ship, never appeared as a common ship in the shows. So maybe thats the reason it has a cloacking device. But i agree that the only ship that should have a cloaking device should be the Defiant.
No, i say hes new because everybody that plays for a relativley long time this game knows the Defiant cloaking device is useless. Lot of posts in the past about it.
You seem to think people are asking for a buff in turn rate. This is not the case. The flanking mechanic does nothing to turn rates. People are referring to a damage boost when firing at somebody from their aft, their behind. Probably also because, when that was introduced, devs mentioned some additional tweaks to BoP's in general. To make them, you know, less inferior to Romulan warbirds.
I have a heavy BOP in my klingon toon. I played a few pvp games, but as i said, since its broken i just stop doing pvp about 3 weeks ago (with my klingon, fed and rom toons, i just hate pvp i dont like to play broken systems). I love my heavy bop but as i said, it is not designed to have beams lol, it is a completely different style of piloting. And this has nothing to do with pvp, pve or whatever.
What i meant is, why a Bird of prey should have flanking bonuses ?? what about all the other ships??