Since this is about the Schimitar which one is the best for Tactical and Science as I would only want to get one of these?
Ty.
Trust me, you want the 3-pack. Yes, it is expensive, but it's a bulk discount. Also, the set bonus gives you the best toys.
I would advise choosing the variant weighted for your career. Tulwar for sci captains, Scimitar for tacs. Equip all three consoles and the best additional loot you can get. Use the cloaked barrage followed by a decloaking alpha strike and a grav well or tractor beam from your sci boff, then hit secondary shielding and the thalaron supergun.
Total pwnage. With that set, you can solo a tac cube on elite in about 20 seconds. The DPS numbers, even with non-fleet weapons, are just insane.
I can make 20k DPS, easy, on a tac scimitar with no fleet gear at all. My sci scimitar has slightly lower DPS, but the crowd control and debuffs from a sci captain with a couple of flow capacitors equipped counters easily.
Any scimitar is MUCH more effective with all three consoles. The set bonus is very much worth it, and the bundle is an account unlock anyway; you can get all three versions for all of your characters.
Also, the 4-piece Dyson set bonus (Dyson warbird core + Dyson shields, engines, and main deflector) plus the thalaron supergun equals an invincible, unstoppable instakill weapon.
Trust me, you want the 3-pack. Yes, it is expensive, but it's a bulk discount. Also, the set bonus gives you the best toys.
I would advise choosing the variant weighted for your career. Tulwar for sci captains, Scimitar for tacs. Equip all three consoles and the best additional loot you can get. Use the cloaked barrage followed by a decloaking alpha strike and a grav well or tractor beam from your sci boff, then hit secondary shielding and the thalaron supergun.
Total pwnage. With that set, you can solo a tac cube on elite in about 20 seconds. The DPS numbers, even with non-fleet weapons, are just insane.
I can make 20k DPS, easy, on a tac scimitar with no fleet gear at all. My sci scimitar has slightly lower DPS, but the crowd control and debuffs from a sci captain with a couple of flow capacitors equipped counters easily.
Any scimitar is MUCH more effective with all three consoles. The set bonus is very much worth it, and the bundle is an account unlock anyway; you can get all three versions for all of your characters.
Also, the 4-piece Dyson set bonus (Dyson warbird core + Dyson shields, engines, and main deflector) plus the thalaron supergun equals an invincible, unstoppable instakill weapon.
Agreed, the Scimitar can be about the most devestating ship IF 1. it's geared right and 2. If you activate all the abilities at the right time, debuff your enemy etc etc
I hate the Scimitar, it is by far the most overpowered ship in the entire game. Their unique hangar pets have more hull than some player ships and they spam Scramble Sensors constantly. Scimitars deal insanely high damage per second and may wipe out an entire opposing team through heals. At this point I wish Romulans were never introduced to the game. Their faction is awful and it's ruined Space PvP.
Space PvP was ruined long before the Romulans made their appearance ^^;
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i don't think they look bad at all, but i'll gladly be the first to admit that the CGI Nemesis version looked MUCH better
i accually pulled a Nemesis on a fleetie yesterday: we went into the Briar patch to test some new toys, and as always it ended with us simply shooting the crapples out of eachother anyways, i couldn't resist doint the Scimitar intro when i spotted him (we were speaking togeather on TeamSpeak at the time) and he was asking where i was since he couldn't spot me, so i did the whole decloak-slide-infront-of-him thing from Nemesis, he was even flying a Sovereign class it pretty much ended with me doing the cloaked barage on him every 3 minutes, and him fireing beams at me the few times he could get a lock on me. good times
They've also turned ISE into a two minute snoozefest for anyone who isn't flying one.
To be fair, most ISE runs seem to be in the 5-minute range even with a Rom-free team; the explosion of Crit-boosting options elsewhere is as much of a problem.
Still, this thread is a marvelous vindication of Cryptic's marketing of the Scimitar and the Romulan faction in general; lots of glee at the (relative) power level of the Scimi and almost no concern about balance against other ships or factions.
I have to say I love my falchion and I am so glad I got my 3 pack, the ship is great fun and you can have some laughs with it, I also would always recomend purchasing the 3 pack over the scimi, not only do you get 3 excelent consoles but you get to choose the ship if u dislike one of the 3, personaly I find the scimi to be a glass cannon, while it does lots of damage, it pops like a baloon, i prefer to do less damage but to be able to survive, its funny watching people who have simply bought just the scimi, dying spectacuarly in estfs and the nebula rescue stf, the perfect cloak, and oh S**t button with the super shields,m and shields while cloaked is great, yes you may not do super duper damage, but personaly i couldnt give a flying f**k about doing massive damage, i play for fun, not for dps, the 3 set gives u plenty of fun toys and a green death beam of fun.
Jorhana Kreig: KDF, Tal'is: Romulan Fed, Shona'a: Romulan KDF, Johan Paul Kreig: Fed
To be fair, most ISE runs seem to be in the 5-minute range even with a Rom-free team; the explosion of Crit-boosting options elsewhere is as much of a problem.
Still, this thread is a marvelous vindication of Cryptic's marketing of the Scimitar and the Romulan faction in general; lots of glee at the (relative) power level of the Scimi and almost no concern about balance against other ships or factions.
Oh, sure, the Scimitars make a laughingstock out of the notion of balance.
But that's the POINT. Sometimes, I WANT to just go into an elite Borg STF and pwn. It helps make the grind easier.
If I wanted a challenge, I'd use my T'varo retrofit torp boat, or my mirror Ha'apax, or my Breen Chel Grett if I wanted to play creatively. But for raw DPS and taking 1st in almost any STF? I love my Scimitar.
*snip* I find the scimi to be a glass cannon, while it does lots of damage, it pops like a baloon, *snip*
Eh? I have no idea what you're talking about. My Tactical captain in the Tactical Scimitar forgot how to die. I'm not sure if it's because my targets get vaporized or if it's because the ship is stupidly tanky to begin with. And kills things. And looks sexy doing it. And kills things.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
Eh? I have no idea what you're talking about. My Tactical captain in the Tactical Scimitar forgot how to die. I'm not sure if it's because my targets get vaporized or if it's because the ship is stupidly tanky to begin with. And kills things. And looks sexy doing it. And kills things.
This. The Scimitar is one beautiful, lethal, overpowered, underpriced, sexy machine of utter annihilation. It is gloriously, beautifully OP, and it is a sexy beast.
I love my Scimitar. It can out-DPS 90% of escorts, and can out-tank 90% of the tanks. And it has a supergun. And can equip those awesome drone ships.
granted my experience of the scimitar was somewhat sowerd by the initial issues with the ship, so I havnt been back to it since, havnt seen anything to convince me that the issues have been resolved either.
Jorhana Kreig: KDF, Tal'is: Romulan Fed, Shona'a: Romulan KDF, Johan Paul Kreig: Fed
To be fair, most ISE runs seem to be in the 5-minute range even with a Rom-free team; the explosion of Crit-boosting options elsewhere is as much of a problem.
Still, this thread is a marvelous vindication of Cryptic's marketing of the Scimitar and the Romulan faction in general; lots of glee at the (relative) power level of the Scimi and almost no concern about balance against other ships or factions.
What balance? Wasnt any balance between ships or factions way before the Rom faction was introduced. On what planet is called balance giving one faction free cloaks, elite fleet op weapons, frigate pets and an outragious doff system versus a gimped cloak on just 2 ships, a really underpowered fleet weapons, no frigate pets and a doff system that is not even half as its counterpart. Yeah... right, balance existed before Rom faction :rolleyes:
Now on topic, I also like the scimitar line not for its DPS, I dont care about that anymore, but I like it for the fun you can have with it if your are using its consoles.
I have to say I love my falchion and I am so glad I got my 3 pack, the ship is great fun and you can have some laughs with it, I also would always recomend purchasing the 3 pack over the scimi, not only do you get 3 excelent consoles but you get to choose the ship if u dislike one of the 3, personaly I find the scimi to be a glass cannon, while it does lots of damage, it pops like a baloon, i prefer to do less damage but to be able to survive, its funny watching people who have simply bought just the scimi, dying spectacuarly in estfs and the nebula rescue stf, ....
I've also noticed a lot of death's with the Scimitar. Which I didn't think was even possible. Their a re a lot of pilots that have scimitar's that obviously focus on offense and no defense. Last week I did 3 STF's with this Scimitar pilot thoat blew up twice in each STF. I'm thinking to myself "I'm in a Voth Flight Deck Cruiser and I can survive but you can't in a Scimitar?"
Basically the Scimitar should come with a warning label "Do not purchase this ship unless you know what you are doing. The reputation of the most powerful ship in the game comes with high standards. You have been warned."
One day Cryptic will be free from their Perfect World overlord. Until that day comes, they will continue to pamper the whales of this game, and ignore everyone that isn't a whale.
granted my experience of the scimitar was somewhat sowerd by the initial issues with the ship, so I havnt been back to it since, havnt seen anything to convince me that the issues have been resolved either.
The issue is that a lot of people use the 3 piece set. Which really isn't a good idea. I stick with just the two piece set for the improved ambush and bonus turn. There are still some interesting bleed mechanics with it, but it's nothing that a copy of HE1 and Aux2SIF1 can't handle.
It's also mostly the pilot. You need to fly intelligently with this ship. It's not the instant "I-win" button everyone is looking for. But it's pretty frakkin close XD.
I've also noticed a lot of death's with the Scimitar. Which I didn't think was even possible. Their a re a lot of pilots that have scimitar's that obviously focus on offense and no defense. Last week I did 3 STF's with this Scimitar pilot thoat blew up twice in each STF. I'm thinking to myself "I'm in a Voth Flight Deck Cruiser and I can survive but you can't in a Scimitar?"
The Bastion is a tank. It's BOff layout is tanky. It's stats are tanky. I would expect you to survive better than a tactical Scimitar.
Basically the Scimitar should come with a warning label "Do not purchase this ship unless you know what you are doing. The reputation of the most powerful ship in the game comes with high standards. You have been warned."
Reminds me of when the Scimi first came out. A LOT of STFs had the cloud of shame at one point or another, sometimes multiples XD.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I actually prefer to run my Scimmy with all 3 consoles, mostly because I don't use fleet gear (too busy buying ZEN with my dil). The somewhat unimaginatively-named IRW Scimitar still PWNs in elite Borg STFs and regularly gets first.
I actually prefer to run my Scimmy with all 3 consoles, mostly because I don't use fleet gear (too busy buying ZEN with my dil). The somewhat unimaginatively-named IRW Scimitar still PWNs in elite Borg STFs and regularly gets first.
My Scimitar has full fleet gear as consoles go (except for the 4 unis on it lol). Sufficed to say, most NPCs don't survive more than 10 seconds in my frontal arc. It's almost pathetic. But still funny XD.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I bought the bundle, don't fly any of them on my 3 romulans. just wasn't for me. I enjoyed flying a scimitar for like a day and gave up on it. it was far too easy to fly. so I went back to my fleet d'deridex and rommie vet ship
This is basically what happened to me. I went back to my Valdore-R. Also I hated not having a ship interior other than the bridge and thalaron room.
Don't get me wrong, I can absolutely slaughter things in it, but the Valdore is more fun to fly.
I love my Scimitar for the fact that it causes such Massive Butthurt with ppl who are so used to winning all the time and then when they go up against a person in a Scimitar that actually Knows
how to use the scimitar to it's fullest potential they start crying ohh Wah such an OP Ship,they ruined PvP bringing that ship in when in reality it didn't it's just because They Got Stomped and then they decide to cry about it because they got Spanked by the Scimitar lol!
P.S. The Tears of the players who go Boo Hoo this ship wrecked PvP are my Sustenance
I liked it because it looked awesome (tulwar appearance fan) and was powerful.
Dislike it because it's an insanely good ship and nothing in the game can stop me. if it wasn't for hive space elite why would i bother logging in?
This is why I keep a torp/mine boat T'varo and a Breen cruiser with a scidestroyer build. If I get bored of the Scimitar, I can switch for the challenge.
Trust me, you want the 3-pack. Yes, it is expensive, but it's a bulk discount. Also, the set bonus gives you the best toys.
I would advise choosing the variant weighted for your career. Tulwar for sci captains, Scimitar for tacs. Equip all three consoles and the best additional loot you can get. Use the cloaked barrage followed by a decloaking alpha strike and a grav well or tractor beam from your sci boff, then hit secondary shielding and the thalaron supergun.
Total pwnage. With that set, you can solo a tac cube on elite in about 20 seconds. The DPS numbers, even with non-fleet weapons, are just insane.
I can make 20k DPS, easy, on a tac scimitar with no fleet gear at all. My sci scimitar has slightly lower DPS, but the crowd control and debuffs from a sci captain with a couple of flow capacitors equipped counters easily.
Any scimitar is MUCH more effective with all three consoles. The set bonus is very much worth it, and the bundle is an account unlock anyway; you can get all three versions for all of your characters.
Also, the 4-piece Dyson set bonus (Dyson warbird core + Dyson shields, engines, and main deflector) plus the thalaron supergun equals an invincible, unstoppable instakill weapon.
Thanks but if I just wanted the one which one would be best for Tac. and Science?
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Thanks but if I just wanted the one which one would be best for Tac. and Science?
Don't listen to him. The three piece set is terrible and the 2pc only marginally less useless. 20k dps with a tac captain in a scimitar is almost laughably bad unless you were using all white gear or something. There's no real reason to get the 3 pack beyond cosmetics. If you want a eng or sci ship there are better options.
Thanks but if I just wanted the one which one would be best for Tac. and Science?
Honestly, if you're going to fly a Scimitar, you want at LEAST two of the three consoles.
Cloaked barrage and shields up while cloaked are huuuuuuuuuugely powerful when used in synergy.
Also, the Tac scimitar is a damage monster, but it lacks the sci consoles for a solid sci build. A Sci scimitar is an excellent scidestroyer but lacks the raw damage potential of the tac scimi.
The Falchion is a really tanky scimitar with a lower damage output and crowd control capacity.
Again, the three-pack is best, because I know multiple fleetmates who bought just one scimiter and then wished they'd splurged on the 3-pack.
Once you get some solid Fleet consoles, you may want to drop one of the 3 consoles, and the thalaron gun is all but useless in PVP. I will say, though, that if you're running a Scimitar without Fleet gear, you need the set bonus and the Solanae set from the new FE for maximum pwnage.
I use a dual cannon and turret build, focused on forward DPS. I usually use torp scatter 3 and cannon rapid fire 3 in ESTFs. Get a tac cube solidly within the firing arc, pewpew with all weapons with max buffs, then hit the proton shielding and then the thalaron gun as soon as your weapon buffs drop...recipe for pwnage.
If you absolutely MUST have on and ONLY one scimitar, I'd do the tac version for raw DPS. Be warned, the tac scimitar is a POS for any sci build, and IMHO it has the weakest console. Again, the 3-pack may LOOK expensive, but it is definitely worth the money.
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that's probably the most basic and accurate description i've heard thus far
fixed that for you. :P
Ty.
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Trust me, you want the 3-pack. Yes, it is expensive, but it's a bulk discount. Also, the set bonus gives you the best toys.
I would advise choosing the variant weighted for your career. Tulwar for sci captains, Scimitar for tacs. Equip all three consoles and the best additional loot you can get. Use the cloaked barrage followed by a decloaking alpha strike and a grav well or tractor beam from your sci boff, then hit secondary shielding and the thalaron supergun.
Total pwnage. With that set, you can solo a tac cube on elite in about 20 seconds. The DPS numbers, even with non-fleet weapons, are just insane.
I can make 20k DPS, easy, on a tac scimitar with no fleet gear at all. My sci scimitar has slightly lower DPS, but the crowd control and debuffs from a sci captain with a couple of flow capacitors equipped counters easily.
Any scimitar is MUCH more effective with all three consoles. The set bonus is very much worth it, and the bundle is an account unlock anyway; you can get all three versions for all of your characters.
Also, the 4-piece Dyson set bonus (Dyson warbird core + Dyson shields, engines, and main deflector) plus the thalaron supergun equals an invincible, unstoppable instakill weapon.
Agreed, the Scimitar can be about the most devestating ship IF 1. it's geared right and 2. If you activate all the abilities at the right time, debuff your enemy etc etc
In short: the Scimitar is a awesome ship
Space PvP was ruined long before the Romulans made their appearance ^^;
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i don't think they look bad at all, but i'll gladly be the first to admit that the CGI Nemesis version looked MUCH better
i accually pulled a Nemesis on a fleetie yesterday: we went into the Briar patch to test some new toys, and as always it ended with us simply shooting the crapples out of eachother
To be fair, most ISE runs seem to be in the 5-minute range even with a Rom-free team; the explosion of Crit-boosting options elsewhere is as much of a problem.
Still, this thread is a marvelous vindication of Cryptic's marketing of the Scimitar and the Romulan faction in general; lots of glee at the (relative) power level of the Scimi and almost no concern about balance against other ships or factions.
Oh, sure, the Scimitars make a laughingstock out of the notion of balance.
But that's the POINT. Sometimes, I WANT to just go into an elite Borg STF and pwn. It helps make the grind easier.
If I wanted a challenge, I'd use my T'varo retrofit torp boat, or my mirror Ha'apax, or my Breen Chel Grett if I wanted to play creatively. But for raw DPS and taking 1st in almost any STF? I love my Scimitar.
Eh? I have no idea what you're talking about. My Tactical captain in the Tactical Scimitar forgot how to die. I'm not sure if it's because my targets get vaporized or if it's because the ship is stupidly tanky to begin with. And kills things. And looks sexy doing it. And kills things.
This. The Scimitar is one beautiful, lethal, overpowered, underpriced, sexy machine of utter annihilation. It is gloriously, beautifully OP, and it is a sexy beast.
I love my Scimitar. It can out-DPS 90% of escorts, and can out-tank 90% of the tanks. And it has a supergun. And can equip those awesome drone ships.
I LOVE the Scimitar.
What balance? Wasnt any balance between ships or factions way before the Rom faction was introduced. On what planet is called balance giving one faction free cloaks, elite fleet op weapons, frigate pets and an outragious doff system versus a gimped cloak on just 2 ships, a really underpowered fleet weapons, no frigate pets and a doff system that is not even half as its counterpart. Yeah... right, balance existed before Rom faction :rolleyes:
Now on topic, I also like the scimitar line not for its DPS, I dont care about that anymore, but I like it for the fun you can have with it if your are using its consoles.
I've also noticed a lot of death's with the Scimitar. Which I didn't think was even possible. Their a re a lot of pilots that have scimitar's that obviously focus on offense and no defense. Last week I did 3 STF's with this Scimitar pilot thoat blew up twice in each STF. I'm thinking to myself "I'm in a Voth Flight Deck Cruiser and I can survive but you can't in a Scimitar?"
Basically the Scimitar should come with a warning label "Do not purchase this ship unless you know what you are doing. The reputation of the most powerful ship in the game comes with high standards. You have been warned."
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The issue is that a lot of people use the 3 piece set. Which really isn't a good idea. I stick with just the two piece set for the improved ambush and bonus turn. There are still some interesting bleed mechanics with it, but it's nothing that a copy of HE1 and Aux2SIF1 can't handle.
It's also mostly the pilot. You need to fly intelligently with this ship. It's not the instant "I-win" button everyone is looking for. But it's pretty frakkin close XD.
The Bastion is a tank. It's BOff layout is tanky. It's stats are tanky. I would expect you to survive better than a tactical Scimitar.
Reminds me of when the Scimi first came out. A LOT of STFs had the cloud of shame at one point or another, sometimes multiples XD.
My Scimitar has full fleet gear as consoles go (except for the 4 unis on it lol). Sufficed to say, most NPCs don't survive more than 10 seconds in my frontal arc. It's almost pathetic. But still funny XD.
This is basically what happened to me. I went back to my Valdore-R. Also I hated not having a ship interior other than the bridge and thalaron room.
Don't get me wrong, I can absolutely slaughter things in it, but the Valdore is more fun to fly.
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how to use the scimitar to it's fullest potential they start crying ohh Wah such an OP Ship,they ruined PvP bringing that ship in when in reality it didn't it's just because They Got Stomped and then they decide to cry about it because they got Spanked by the Scimitar lol!
P.S. The Tears of the players who go Boo Hoo this ship wrecked PvP are my Sustenance
Dislike it because it's an insanely good ship and nothing in the game can stop me. if it wasn't for hive space elite why would i bother logging in?
This is why I keep a torp/mine boat T'varo and a Breen cruiser with a scidestroyer build. If I get bored of the Scimitar, I can switch for the challenge.
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Don't listen to him. The three piece set is terrible and the 2pc only marginally less useless. 20k dps with a tac captain in a scimitar is almost laughably bad unless you were using all white gear or something. There's no real reason to get the 3 pack beyond cosmetics. If you want a eng or sci ship there are better options.
Honestly, if you're going to fly a Scimitar, you want at LEAST two of the three consoles.
Cloaked barrage and shields up while cloaked are huuuuuuuuuugely powerful when used in synergy.
Also, the Tac scimitar is a damage monster, but it lacks the sci consoles for a solid sci build. A Sci scimitar is an excellent scidestroyer but lacks the raw damage potential of the tac scimi.
The Falchion is a really tanky scimitar with a lower damage output and crowd control capacity.
Again, the three-pack is best, because I know multiple fleetmates who bought just one scimiter and then wished they'd splurged on the 3-pack.
Once you get some solid Fleet consoles, you may want to drop one of the 3 consoles, and the thalaron gun is all but useless in PVP. I will say, though, that if you're running a Scimitar without Fleet gear, you need the set bonus and the Solanae set from the new FE for maximum pwnage.
I use a dual cannon and turret build, focused on forward DPS. I usually use torp scatter 3 and cannon rapid fire 3 in ESTFs. Get a tac cube solidly within the firing arc, pewpew with all weapons with max buffs, then hit the proton shielding and then the thalaron gun as soon as your weapon buffs drop...recipe for pwnage.
If you absolutely MUST have on and ONLY one scimitar, I'd do the tac version for raw DPS. Be warned, the tac scimitar is a POS for any sci build, and IMHO it has the weakest console. Again, the 3-pack may LOOK expensive, but it is definitely worth the money.