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  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    STO Forums, I am ashamed of you.

    Someone came in here posting probable proof of alien life, or at least alien activity, and all you can do is degenerate into hypothetical debate about the merits and flaws and possibilities of how these amazing star travellers power their ships, how the engines work. Good, people, I cannot believe that once presented with the overwhelming evidence of alien life presented in videos and images like the ones shared by the OP, or the words of an astronaut himself ... http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1024431 ... (also brought to us by the OP) with all of this presented , all we can do is argue about how these aliens might fly their spinny ships?

    My friends, we are the STO Forum.
    Why has some not just posted this link

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs

    and been done with the debate.


    Good Day
    Enjoy Flying in the Stars
    - John
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Well, it's sort of a funding game.

    There is project that you see and then there is the project you don't see.

    A good example is the B-2 Stealth Bomber. It costs $2.1 Billion.

    The actual B-2 only costs about $200 Million. The rest is spent on the Black Project.

    - Upper 4D Scouts -

    The jet fighters are all just toys to play with.

    B-2s are built by Northrop. How does Lockheed end up with their extra $1.9 billion?
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    B-2s are built by Northrop. How does Lockheed end up with their extra $1.9 billion?

    Darn you, facts, getting in the way of such a beautiful conspiracy...

    Hey, sander233, how would you like to be Oversecretary of Chappa'ai Transportation under Sovereign Ba'al? It comes with a 30-room mansion, a hot tub, a pool, ten concubines of your preferred gender, 200 elite Jaffa troops for enforcement, a re-purposed Ancient puddle-jumper (no weapons, unfortunately), and a time share of Maine.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Darn you, facts, getting in the way of such a beautiful conspiracy...

    Hey, sander233, how would you like to be Oversecretary of Chappa'ai Transportation under Sovereign Ba'al? It comes with a 30-room mansion, a hot tub, a pool, ten concubines of your preferred gender, 200 elite Jaffa troops for enforcement, a re-purposed Ancient puddle-jumper (no weapons, unfortunately), and a time share of Maine.

    I am agreeable to the proposal. Where's my mansion located? And is it already built or do I get to design my own?
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    - Anne Bredon
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    I am agreeable to the proposal. Where's my mansion located? And is it already built or do I get to design my own?

    Um...you have a choice between Cheyenne Mountain, Nevada, and Antarctica.

    At least, until we can move one of the Stargates to a better spot. A commute would probably be necessary, at least at first.

    You'd have the choice of getting any existing mansion of your choice or designing your own. Sovereign Ba'al is a nice guy that way.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Um...you have a choice between Cheyenne Mountain, Nevada, and Antarctica.

    At least, until we can move one of the Stargates to a better spot. A commute would probably be necessary, at least at first.

    You'd have the choice of getting any existing mansion of your choice or designing your own. Sovereign Ba'al is a nice guy that way.

    Okay, it's a deal. I'll send you my architect's drawings after I've picked out a site south of Colorado Springs. The specs on my concubines will be sent later via PM.

    Hail Ba'al
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    ...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
    - Anne Bredon
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    Okay, it's a deal. I'll send you my architect's drawings after I've picked out a site south of Colorado Springs. The specs on my concubines will be sent later via PM.

    Hail Ba'al

    Excellent. Can you do me a favor and wait until Conquest Day? I'm busy contacting and vetting potential hires at the moment, and the next couple of weeks are going to involve a lot of preparation.

    April 1st, Ba'al lands, and you shall have your mansion, minions, other stuff, and duties (don't worry, your minions do the actual physical work. You just do some filing. And there are...intangible benefits*). Hail Ba'al!

    *Like, say, your girlfriend is Abydonian, and her parents are kind of annoying. You can get her priority chappa'ai transport to Earth, meet her at Arrivals, and have a paperwork snarl keep her parents on Abydos indefinitely.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    The specs on my concubines will be sent later via PM.

    Hail Ba'al

    Oh no you don't.

    In the interests of full disclosure (and to prevent betray... umm jealousy) all pleasure specs must be shared in a public forum.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

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    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • kain9primekain9prime Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Looks like the OP was a lil bored last night...
    The artist formally known as Romulus_Prime
  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    marc8219 wrote: »
    Sorry but the "cabal" whatever you want to call the elite and MIC doesn't have antigrav technology, they do have top secret spy planes and fighters but they still use conventional propulsion systems, this is faked.

    Even if anti grav technology were to exist the power needed for it would be massive and we would need new power sources first to be able to use it, like how antimatter is used in Star Trek.

    The Anti gravity technology use electrostatic power supplies. (High Voltage + Low Current)

    It's dielectric plates.

    It is artificial gravity that is generated 180 degrees out of phase with the Earths gravity.

    All knowledge was suppressed because it is dual use technology.;)
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    The Anti gravity technology use electrostatic power supplies. (High Voltage + Low Current)

    It's dielectric plates.

    It is artificial gravity that is generated 180 degrees out of phase with the Earths gravity.

    All knowledge was suppressed because it is dual use technology.;)
    A good example is the B-2 Stealth Bomber. It costs $2.1 Billion.

    The actual B-2 only costs about $200 Million. The rest is spent on the Black Project.

    Hold on.

    Costing's for aircraft will all have to be laid out and even if it is a US military secret, some ex aerospace engineer somewhere will look at these planes and think, "hold on I could build one of them for 200mil, where is all the extra costing coming from"?
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Excellent. Can you do me a favor and wait until Conquest Day? I'm busy contacting and vetting potential hires at the moment, and the next couple of weeks are going to involve a lot of preparation.

    April 1st, Ba'al lands, and you shall have your mansion, minions, other stuff, and duties (don't worry, your minions do the actual physical work. You just do some filing. And there are...intangible benefits*). Hail Ba'al!
    No problem.
    artan42 wrote: »
    Oh no you don't.

    In the interests of full disclosure (and to prevent betray... umm jealousy) all pleasure specs must be shared in a public forum.
    You're just trying to get me banned, aren't you?
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The Anti gravity technology use electrostatic power supplies. (High Voltage + Low Current)

    It's dielectric plates.

    It is artificial gravity that is generated 180 degrees out of phase with the Earths gravity.

    All knowledge was suppressed because it is dual use technology.;)

    Bollocks.

    Sovereign Ba'al tried that, thinking it would make the Death Gliders easier to cloak.

    The first three test flights ended up with spontaneous inversion, which is even worse than it sounds. Then the Sovereign's scientists found that the inversion (and all of the entrails and other side effects that it involved) was a natural byproduct of the engines.

    So you're full of it.

    :cool::cool::cool:
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    No problem.


    You're just trying to get me banned, aren't you?

    Certainly not :eek:.

    It's not as though your lands and slave would default to me as Minister of Immigration is it :confused:.

    How could you suggest something like that :(.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    No problem.
    See you on Conquest Day. Hail Ba'al!
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Bollocks.

    That alone is a fine answer. No need to bring the Sovereigns failures into this.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    B-2s are built by Northrop. How does Lockheed end up with their extra $1.9 billion?

    That was just an example. You see Northrup ALSO makes kick TRIBBLE Upper 4D Scouts.

    Lockheed just gets their funding right off the floor of the U.S. Congress.

    Members of congress complain: We don't even know what we are voting on! LOL

    The Black Project Budget is there. Not many people talk about it.
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    That alone is a fine answer. No need to bring the Sovereigns failures into this.

    Sovereign Ba'al believes in admitting to his mistakes. He feels that it is good for his strategic thinking skills.

    Apparently he got his butt kicked pretty good a few hundred times by some guys called SG-1 in a couple of alternate timelines.

    He mentioned once that this is his 3rd timeline. :cool:
  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    Hold on.

    Costing's for aircraft will all have to be laid out and even if it is a US military secret, some ex aerospace engineer somewhere will look at these planes and think, "hold on I could build one of them for 200mil, where is all the extra costing coming from"?

    One big problem is that 40% of the money is spent just to keep it secret.

    The remaining 60% is spent actually building the Upper 4D Scout or Cigar Shaped Beamship.

    The real ETs complain that the USA is 100 years ahead of where it's suppose to be!

    We have been cheating like crazy since December 1980.

    All it takes is funding. We got a lot of that!
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    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    One big problem is that 40% of the money is spent just to keep it secret.

    The remaining 60% is spent actually building the Upper 4D Scout or Cigar Shaped Beamship.

    The real ETs complain that the USA is 100 years ahead of where it's suppose to be!

    We have been cheating like crazy since December 1980.

    All it takes is funding. We got a lot of that!

    Ummmm...

    Only 20% of SGC's funding goes into secrecy last I checked. And their ships are the Daedalus-class battleship (hybrid Tau'ri/Asgard tech), the X-302 starfighter (Tau'ri tech, some Goa'uld), and the Alteran city ship (only one, "Atlantis", uses Ancient tech). Never heard of Lower-40 SCOTUS ships, or "cigar-shaped beamships" before.

    The city ship is the only one that poses a threat to the Sovereign's forces, and we have Jaffa sabotaging it as I write.

    Stargate Command's only been cheating since 1997; they first activated their chappa'ai in 1994, and they didn't actually start reverse-engineering Goa'uld tech until 3 years later.

    So you're made of bollocks again.

    :D
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    One big problem is that 40% of the money is spent just to keep it secret.

    The remaining 60% is spent actually building the Upper 4D Scout or Cigar Shaped Beamship.

    The real ETs complain that the USA is 100 years ahead of where it's suppose to be!

    We have been cheating like crazy since December 1980.

    All it takes is funding. We got a lot of that!

    Why no better names?

    Also why is the US loosing anything? Without wanting to get political (more political :P), they US has boots on the ground in several countries in the last decade, why no kill-o-zap beams levelling mountains eh? They could even pretend they were earthquakes, that seems like the 'kinda thing they would do.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Ummmm...

    Only 20% of SGC's funding goes into secrecy last I checked. And their ships are the Daedalus-class battleship (hybrid Tau'ri/Asgard tech), the X-302 starfighter (Tau'ri tech, some Ancient), and the Alteran city ship (only one, "Atlantis", uses Ancient tech). Never heard of Lower-40 SCOTUS ships, or "cigar-shaped beamships" before.

    The city ship is the only one that poses a threat to the Sovereign's forces, and we have Jaffa sabotaging it as I write.

    Stargate Command's only been cheating since 1997; they first activated their chappa'ai in 1994, and they didn't actually start reverse-engineering Goa'uld tech until 3 years later.

    So you're made of bollocks again.

    :D

    The X-302 was reverse-engineered Goa'uld and Tau'ri technology, not Ancient.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    The X-302 was reverse-engineered Goa'uld and Tau'ri technology, not Ancient.

    (OOC: Really? Damn. My mistake, I will edit)
  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Members of congress complain: We don't even know what we are voting on! LOL

    Actually they don't care what they're voting on. Congressmen don't even bother to read most of the bills they pass. I doubt they'd "complain" at all, especially when more than half of them want to "bomb, bomb Iran" and would be glad to have any of these alleged space craft of yours to do it.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Actually they don't care what they're voting on. Congressmen don't even bother to read most of the bills they pass. I doubt they'd "complain" at all, especially when more than half of them want to "bomb, bomb Iran" and would be glad to have any of these alleged space craft of yours to do it.

    Should make it easy for the Sovereign. Just get Congress to hand over power in exchange for guarantees to bomb Iran and a whooooole lotta gold (the Sovereign has literally dozens of mining planets, it'll be easy for him to get enough to fill Fort Knox ten times over), then execute the lot. Maybe make it into a sporting event or celebration.

    Oh, I know! "The Congress Games!"

    :D:D:D
  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Should make it easy for the Sovereign. Just get Congress to hand over power in exchange for guarantees to bomb Iran and a whooooole lotta gold (the Sovereign has literally dozens of mining planets, it'll be easy for him to get enough to fill Fort Knox ten times over), then execute the lot. Maybe make it into a sporting event or celebration.

    Oh, I know! "The Congress Games!"

    :D:D:D

    Oh, you may want to rethink that.

    Truth be told, nobody wanted to bomb Syria except Kerry and Obama.

    Americans are war weary. Only 9% of Americans wanted to bomb Syria.

    Thank God for Putin. We could be involved in another war right now.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Oh, you may want to rethink that.

    Truth be told, nobody wanted to bomb Syria except Kerry and Obama.

    Americans are war weary. Only 9% of Americans wanted to bomb Syria.

    Thank God for Putin. We could be involved in another war right now.

    ...OK, you're on my Stupid and Evil lists now, as well as my Crazy list.

    We should've sent Seal Team 6 after Assad 4 years ago. It's too late now, though.

    Seriously. "Thank god for Putin". Like that homophobic, KGB-trained little scumbag is somebody worth keeping on the planet...
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The Putin comment might be his usual brand, but to be fair the parts before that are the closest thing to a coherent thought he's had in three threads. Not completely accurate, but statements of mere factual error are a step up from the incoherent ramblings of an avid connoisseur of the lead paints.
  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    ...OK, you're on my Stupid and Evil lists now, as well as my Crazy list.

    We should've sent Seal Team 6 after Assad 4 years ago. It's too late now, though.

    Seriously. "Thank god for Putin". Like that homophobic, KGB-trained little scumbag is somebody worth keeping on the planet...

    Thank God for Putin.

    I took a good look at BOTH sides in the civil war in Syria.

    I don't like any of them.

    - PASS -

    Let them fight it out.

    I'm a member of the 91% who voted .....No!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    hevach wrote: »
    The Putin comment might be his usual brand, but to be fair the parts before that are the closest thing to a coherent thought he's had in three threads. Not completely accurate, but statements of mere factual error are a step up from the incoherent ramblings of an avid connoisseur of the lead paints.

    Sure. He's still on all three lists, though.

    Have I offered you a job in Sovereign Ba'al's regime already? Because I desperately need a Minister of Environmental Protection, and I have a quota of Tau'ri to fill. The job comes with a beachfront mansion in Kauai, ten concubines, and a squadron of 20 guards, in addition to a personal Alteran puddle-jumper spacecraft and a Jacuzzi.

    :D
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