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Cabal 4D Scout Over Syria : Great Design !

upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Ten Forward
If you click pause at 22 seconds, you should see a spacecraft that resembles the

U.S.S. Defiant. Syria is a mess. Go ahead and thank Putin for keeping us out of there.

Kerry and Obama were beating the war drums. Putin gave us a political solution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt_yvIfb0ec
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  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It now looks like i have the best Avatar on the STO Forum.
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    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Uh, yeah... maybe you're lost. Above Top Secret is over here.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    It now looks like i have the best Avatar on the STO Forum.

    The Shark disagrees.
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  • jmaster29jmaster29 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    If you click pause at 22 seconds, you should see a spacecraft that resembles the

    U.S.S. Defiant. Syria is a mess. Go ahead and thank Putin for keeping us out of there.

    Kerry and Obama were beating the war drums. Putin gave us a political solution.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt_yvIfb0ec

    Mate, I don't think that's real, it's pretty blurry, and could have easily been photoshopped in. If I saw it confirmed from scientists, then I might say other wise. Plus, if that guy was taking cover from it, don't ya think he might be in a position where the ship, CAN'T see him, rather then being in a spot where he could easily have been shot at?
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Look here's a vidoe of the Enterprise being blown up over San Francisco.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v69RuwsGv_I

    It's on the internet so it must be totally real!
  • jmaster29jmaster29 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Look here's a vidoe of the Enterprise being blown up over San Francisco.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v69RuwsGv_I

    It's on the internet so it must be totally real!

    What? I just had tea with the Daleks! Davros is such a nice guy! I mean they just wanna play with Humans, they just get a little rough! And what does the Doctor do? Blow them up!
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jmaster29 wrote: »
    What? I just had tea with the Daleks! Davros is such a nice guy! I mean they just wanna play with Humans, they just get a little rough! And what does the Doctor do? Blow them up!

    Hey, I just met with System Lord Ba'al last night. Traded him the SGC for half of Australia, free health and dental (best in the galaxy), and the position of Grand Vizier so that I can ensure that our new Supreme Leader stays such for a long, long time.

    "Goa'uld are evil" is SGC propaganda. Ba'al is actually rather polite and friendly.
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    http://www.google.com/insidesearch/features/images/searchbyimage.html

    Google has a built in photoshop detector, not that I needed to run it since the compression artifacts give it away.

    Note to all aspiring photoshop hoaxers, please, please, try to find an uncompressed source image or you'll get those blocky outlines around everything you insert. Youtube only goes about halfway towards making them hader to see. Good try by editing the entire skyline, at least, I almost missed the artifacting.

    Bonus protip: Zooming in on an image makes compression artifacts stand out. To draw attention to your inserted element without giving away your alterations, highlight it with a box and then fade transition to a cropped version.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Aaaw, man...I was so hoping for that to be one of the Sovereign's death gliders, showing off for the minions...

    Oh, well. I suppose I'd better get back to foiling System Lord Apophis's latest assassination plot. I can't stand Apophis; that guy has no style. And waaaaaaay too much gold.

    :D
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Oh, hey, forgot to include the actual point of my post, but here is the original, unaltered photograph:
    http://srstern.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/int-syria-1206.jpg

    Comparing it to the video actually makes a few errors I didn't notice pop out. Most notably:

    1. The craft would have had perfect line of sight on the guy. There is no wall between him and the craft, he's standing away from the nearest walls, and he has no overhead cover. If he's taking cover from something, it is most likely farther down the street*. He is making literally no attempt to hide from the object in the sky.

    *-I actually don't believe this either. His posture is relatively relaxed and the photographer is standing in the open to take the picture (and if the rebel is making no attempt to hide, the photographer is actively drawing attention to himself). This suggests to me they are not in an active combat zone and the man is instead a lookout.

    2. He is also completely unaware of the object, instead scanning the buildings opposite him or the street below (it's hard to tell which, but it's not the sky). The SAF is using helicopters and MiGs against rebels extensively. Rebels have to be aware of the sky, and if he ignored such a large object, it doesn't bode well for his survival when a MiG or Gazelle catches him in the open.

    Of course, in the unaltered image, there's nothing in the sky for him to ignore.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    hevach wrote: »
    Oh, hey, forgot to include the actual point of my post, but here is the original, unaltered photograph:
    http://srstern.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/int-syria-1206.jpg

    Comparing it to the video actually makes a few errors I didn't notice pop out. Most notably:

    1. The craft would have had perfect line of sight on the guy. There is no wall between him and the craft, he's standing away from the nearest walls, and he has no overhead cover. If he's taking cover from something, it is most likely farther down the street*. He is making literally no attempt to hide from the object in the sky.

    *-I actually don't believe this either. His posture is relatively relaxed and the photographer is standing in the open to take the picture. This suggests to me they are not in an active combat zone and the man is instead a lookout.

    2. He is also completely unaware of the object, instead scanning the buildings opposite him or the street below (it's hard to tell which, but it's not the sky). The SAF is using helicopters and MiGs against rebels extensively. Rebels have to be aware of the sky, and if he ignored such a large object, it doesn't bode well for his survival when a MiG or Gazelle catches him in the open.

    Of course, in the unaltered image, there's nothing in the sky for him to ignore.

    But...but...but...

    THE SOVEREIGN SAID THAT HE WOULD INSTALL CLOAKS ON HIS DEATH GLIDERS!!!

    The "photoshopping" is just someone applying a filter that reveals the Sovereign's craft...we shall have to fix that flaw with the Death Gliders' cloaks.

    :D:D:D
  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    The Shark disagrees.

    That's not bad but you need an Avatar with a STO theme.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    That's not bad but you need an Avatar with a STO theme.

    Well... not to toot my own horn, but...
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  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jmaster29 wrote: »
    Mate, I don't think that's real, it's pretty blurry, and could have easily been photoshopped in. If I saw it confirmed from scientists, then I might say other wise. Plus, if that guy was taking cover from it, don't ya think he might be in a position where the ship, CAN'T see him, rather then being in a spot where he could easily have been shot at?

    Have you ever seen a scout like this before?

    I call it the Black Beetle Scout.
    BTW, the port nacelle is blurry because the Gravity Wave Caterpillar Drive bends light.
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  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    Have you ever seen a scout like this before?

    I call it the Black Beetle Scout.
    BTW, the port nacelle is blurry because the Gravity Wave Caterpillar Drive bends light.

    Sorry, but a gravity field powerful enough to bend light would effectively put out the force of a black hole. In other words, the laws of physics disagree with you.
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  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    Sorry, but a gravity field powerful enough to bend light would effectively put out the force of a black hole. In other words, the laws of physics disagree with you.

    The discs that flew around Washington D.C. in July 19th and July 26th 1952 used

    Gravity Wave Caterpillar Drives. Rockets and jets are obsolete.

    By using a waveguide through the center of the scout you can cloak the entire

    spacecraft by bending light around it.

    The gravity wave generators use electrostatic power supplies. (Neon Sign)

    Townsend Brown worked with them in the 1950s.

    He called them dielectric plates.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    The discs that flew around Washington D.C. in July 19th and July 26th 1952 used

    Gravity Wave Caterpillar Drives. Rockets and jets are obsolete.

    By using a waveguide through the center of the scout you can cloak the entire

    spacecraft by bending light around it.

    The gravity wave generators use electrostatic power supplies. (Neon Sign)

    Townsend Brown worked with them in the 1950s.

    He called them dielectric plates.

    I'll say again; laws of physics do not agree with you.

    Unless you're saying that Sir Isaac Newton was part of an anti-alien conspiracy?

    These 'Gravity Wave Caterpillar Drives' can not exist because they are in violation of the laws of physics. Sorry, but you're spouting rubbish.
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    In Cold Blood
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Laws of physics don't apply to crazy people or photoshops.

    http://srstern.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/int-syria-1206.jpg
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    LOL @Caterpillar Drive
    just watched a scene from "The Hunt for Red October" 3 minutes ago.
  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    I'll say again; laws of physics do not agree with you.

    Unless you're saying that Sir Isaac Newton was part of an anti-alien conspiracy?

    These 'Gravity Wave Caterpillar Drives' can not exist because they are in violation of the laws of physics. Sorry, but you're spouting rubbish.

    Your - Laws of Physics - are.....incomplete.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    Your - Laws of Physics - are.....incomplete.

    Uh-huh...

    Since you're clearly not interested in giving credible evidence and your only response is "well, you're wrong, so neh!" I'm just going to stop arguing with you. Good day.
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    In Cold Blood
  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I found a long letter written by Townsend Brown.

    He talks about companies like Lockheed and others putting gravity devices in their jets.

    http://www.thomastownsendbrown.com/tpx/barker/l_brown_11-55.pdf

    "rockets are brute force and awkwardness"

    Print out the letter as a hard copy.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    I found a long letter written by Townsend Brown.

    He talks about companies like Lockheed and others putting gravity devices in their jets.

    http://www.thomastownsendbrown.com/tpx/barker/l_brown_11-55.pdf

    "rockets are brute force and awkwardness"

    Print out the letter as a hard copy.

    How many typewriters do you know of that have an underline function? Yeah, that's faked. Sorry.
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    Trials of Blood and Fire
    Moving On Parts 1-3 - Part 4
    In Cold Blood
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ryan, don't feed the nut. It's not his fault that he can't tell a Death Glider scoutship cloaking device from a gravy drive.

    The Glorious Conquest of Earth by Sovereign Ba'al happens on April 1st. Mark your calendars.

    :cool::cool::cool:
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    I found a long letter written by Townsend Brown.

    He talks about companies like Lockheed and others putting gravity devices in their jets.

    http://www.thomastownsendbrown.com/tpx/barker/l_brown_11-55.pdf

    "rockets are brute force and awkwardness"

    Print out the letter as a hard copy.

    Aww bless...
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  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    How many typewriters do you know of that have an underline function? Yeah, that's faked. Sorry.

    Ummm....my typewriter makes underlines.

    You type the sentence, then bring the carriage back and hit the underline key.

    I learned how to do it when i was 12 years old.

    LOL

    Print out a hard copy of the Townsend Brown letter. He goes over a lot of topics.

    You can also go to the Main Page of the Brown Website.

    There is more there.
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    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    Ummm....my typewriter makes underlines.

    You type the sentence, then bring the carriage back and hit the underline key.

    I learned how to do it when i was 12 years old.

    LOL

    Print out a hard copy of the Townsend Brown letter. He goes over a lot of topics.

    You can also go to the Main Page of the Brown Website.

    There is more there.

    Uh-huh. Now explain why he would need to underline it if the person he was sending it to knew what the letter was about? Seems a bit convenient.

    Also, from wikipedia:
    In 1956, the aviation trade publication Interavia reported that Brown had made substantial progress in anti-gravity or electro-gravitic propulsion research. Top U.S. aerospace companies had also become involved in such research (see United States gravity control propulsion research), which may have become a classified subject by 1957. Others contend Brown's research simply reached a dead end and lost support.
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  • upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    Uh-huh. Now explain why he would need to underline it if the person he was sending it to knew what the letter was about? Seems a bit convenient.

    Also, from wikipedia:

    I didn't dwell on the underlining very long.

    I decided to just read the 22 page letter.

    Reading is fun. Give it try!

    LOL

    According to Townsend Brown work was done in Hawaii.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    It now looks like i have the best Avatar on the STO Forum.

    :confused:

    I just watched the video, now imaging if those 'aliens' had decided to do this over a country that wasn't in a state of all out civil war and would reasonably expect to have drones flying over it.

    Strange how they don't appear on HD cameras or film without looking fake, maybe they think HD steals their souls.
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    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    upper4dscout wrote: »
    I didn't dwell on the underlining very long.

    I decided to just read the 22 page letter.

    Reading is fun. Give it try!

    LOL

    According to Townsend Brown work was done in Hawaii.

    Read my wikipedia quote. If you don't, then you're clearly ignoring anything anyone says which does not support your very flawed viewpoint and are therefore either trolling or not interested in a debate, in which case, why are you here?
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