First its a multiplayer game not a singleplayer stop using social devices i don't like game. Second there is plenty social about esd with or without party stuff just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not. Third party stuff is fun as hell and makes in-game parties a lot more fun whereas roleplay is not social at all it's just text bs so why not just go sit in a featureless room if you can't play with others. There is a real need for balloons and disco stuff on all space stations as they make them more fun.
Most that happens is one guy uses his party whatever then a bunch of others come and join in and have a fun time for a while except for like 5 minutes when antisocial trolls scream at them for having fun but luckily they last for 5 minutes thats it. Where again is the social roleplay whatever in that?
The esd chat is always lively and full of people. Only reason 99% of the people complain about it is because they have control issues and want to force people to play how they like and be done with it. Maybe you stand around screaming at people to stop having fun but that's weird. I don't really see the reason for it.
ESD is junk, man. Conversation revolves around poorly-informed politics and a bunch of underage people waxing philosophical. Occasionally it devolves further into gorn "jokes" and why JJ Trek sucks.
That being said, maybe the problem would lessen if there were more social zones to do things in. Personally, I love hanging out in Quark's Bar and DS9 in general so I can lurk the RP-ers. I can't see their chat, but I do enjoy watching them do stuff. All we need now is to make DS9 transwarp-able easily, and add some reason to go there, like unique, better than normal doff missions that pay out better, or something. Or launching your STFs from DS9 results in 15 bonus marks right off the bat, I dunno.
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You know, if ESD is going to be spending time in the art pipeline again, they need to refit all of the chairs for click interaction. How many years has it been since they introduced that tech at the Academy? It's about time the major social zones were refit with the same tech, and if ESD will be in the dev spotlight this is the perfect time to do it.
Nitpicking is a time-honored tradition of science fiction. Asking your readers not to worry about the "little things" is like asking a dog not to sniff at people's crotches. If there's something that appears to violate natural laws, then you can expect someone's going to point it out. That's just the way things are.
I want to be able to fly INTO and around the interior of ESD's docking area with my ship. I once made it past the docking bay doors during a lag spike at full impulse. It was a glorious 0.3 seconds!
I like that idea! It would bring back that old ESD asset and make it used in-game again. The explanation being that Q thought it would be funny to swap Mars Space Dock and ESD. When folks simply continued as if nothing was different, Q got bored and set things back to the way they were(what we have now with the STIII ESD).
Have the First Contact Day map and event accessible via turbolift from the Mars Spacedock map. From Earth Orbit, one could warp directly to Mars, and from Mars orbit, one could Warp to Earth. And of course, both maps would be accessible from Sirius Sector Space. All of the zany Q events could occur on one of the maps, while the other is low-key for those who are not amused by the theatrics. Two Sol system social zones, but with entirely different personalities for the two disparate groups of players.
How DARE you suggest a peaceful and sensible compromise?!?!?
No we MUST have only ONE type of gameplay, and no more!
Nothing breaks the tension better than a tankard of warnog - except maybe a good brawl...
But I like ESD as it is... I'd rather see DS9 improved with the functions it is missing (like boff trainers) so that it can be a full featured hub like ESD, and while we're at it why not have a shuttle to DS9 from ESD and the other main hubs like starbases have shuttles to the embassy and spire? Turn DS9 into a proper 'all factions' hub connected to all of the faction specific ones.
Instead of changing the current ESD, why not create a new starbase at Utopia Planitia Mars and add the old ESD over there... make it a lvl50 hangout spot with all the normal bells and whistles of a full starbase. When inside, the exteriors could show the Utopia Planitia fleet yards and the lovely red planet below.
i dunno whats wrong with just one long corridor, windows looking out into space on one side on the other side all the stores and a transporter pad in the middle of that, at the end of one hallway through some doors leads to a large room specifically for shipyard stuff with ships in the background, on the opposite side of the hallway is Quinn's office.
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I'd like to see the layout of ESD changed and have things added to the interior.
ESD has two levels one of which is unused. I'd take the second deck and make that a civilian deck which would have things like Club 47, sick bay, observation room (where you can see the ships), stores, and holosuites. The current level would contain areas for Starfleet personnel only like skill training, ship management, Holodecks for training, the admiral's office, administrative offices, weapon supply compartments, and an officers lounge.
While we're looking at starbases maybe one glaring omission from DS9 could be fixed, add the medical bay to the station.
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ESD doesn't need a revamp and any resources used for it's revamp should be put to use elsewhere like fixing the Galaxy X's off center lance (which seriously bothers my OCD) or properly scaling the Galaxy bridge so it's not comically huge.
ESD doesn't need a revamp and any resources used for it's revamp should be put to use elsewhere like fixing the Galaxy X's off center lance (which seriously bothers my OCD) or properly scaling the Galaxy bridge so it's not comically huge.
But they obviously don't listen to the players. With all the problems in this game - some major and some very minor - they think people complained about ESD's layout? That's what they want to work on? It's fine and in my opinion a lot of fun. I spend a lot of time being a ninja and jumping to places once thought off limits.
One thing i'de like to see in the revamp is the the origional series federation dreadnaught cruiser added into the federation ship lineup.
I've seen it twice in the origional series but only twice briefly, it looked like a rougha and ready ship.
One thing i'de like to see in the revamp is the the origional series federation dreadnaught cruiser added into the federation ship lineup.
I've seen it twice in the origional series but only twice briefly, it looked like a rougha and ready ship.
It only ever appeared as a bearly visable scematic in TWOK (I think), never in TOS.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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if ya gonna revamp it... please bring back the OLD ESD... she was big, she had a 24 century feel and the interiors were big and roomy..
the interior of ESD has not changed much even in the last revamp only biggest change was the bank/exchange area. I believe that the revamp of ground ESD will be even bigger than the old one and I look forward to it.
What about a game engine revamp ? LOL
won't happen they would have to kill the game off to do a engine overhuaul
ESD doesn't need a revamp and any resources used for it's revamp should be put to use elsewhere like fixing the Galaxy X's off center lance (which seriously bothers my OCD) or properly scaling the Galaxy bridge so it's not comically huge.
Yes it does. ESD is the first place new players see outside of the tutorial. First impressions are important.
Yes it does. ESD is the first place new players see outside of the tutorial. First impressions are important.
The first impression they'll get is that ESD is the troll central of the gaming industry regardless what Cryptic does with ESD. If they're trolls they'll stick around and if they're sane they'll run away as soon as they can and never return to ESD.
Besides, I fail to see what's wrong with ESD?
Yes it does. ESD is the first place new players see outside of the tutorial. First impressions are important.
Depends on what time of day they start playing. At night ESD is full of trolls with nothing better to do with their lives than sit around on a mmo game ranting about politics and religion or telling the same lame, stupid gorn jokes (and I use the word joke loosely because a joke is supposed to be funny).
As far as the new look for ESD it's decent enough but did ESD really need to be changed? couldn't the time and resources have been better spent fixing glitchs that have been around forever or improving something else that could use the work more?
hmmm... i like it, fits the newer STO style and reminds me a bit to the Odyssey's special bridge, nice
Indeed. If they all wore the same uniform, and some bugs where fied, well, it'd be a VERY nice map (although it already is).
Plus, I never understood why they didn't just use holograms. In fact, the Oddesey needs a special interior, with holograms and stuff.
Depends on what time of day they start playing. At night ESD is full of trolls with nothing better to do with their lives than sit around on a mmo game ranting about politics and religion or telling the same lame, stupid gorn jokes (and I use the word joke loosely because a joke is supposed to be funny).
As far as the new look for ESD it's decent enough but did ESD really need to be changed? couldn't the time and resources have been better spent fixing glitchs that have been around forever or improving something else that could use the work more?
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ESD is junk, man. Conversation revolves around poorly-informed politics and a bunch of underage people waxing philosophical. Occasionally it devolves further into gorn "jokes" and why JJ Trek sucks.
That being said, maybe the problem would lessen if there were more social zones to do things in. Personally, I love hanging out in Quark's Bar and DS9 in general so I can lurk the RP-ers. I can't see their chat, but I do enjoy watching them do stuff. All we need now is to make DS9 transwarp-able easily, and add some reason to go there, like unique, better than normal doff missions that pay out better, or something. Or launching your STFs from DS9 results in 15 bonus marks right off the bat, I dunno.
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tutorial revamp
qonos revamp
stf revamp
it has already been done numberous times, dont spend more useless resources on it...
How DARE you suggest a peaceful and sensible compromise?!?!?
No we MUST have only ONE type of gameplay, and no more!
Love this idea, please.. MAKE IT SO!!!
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revamp is OP, plz nerf.
i dunno whats wrong with just one long corridor, windows looking out into space on one side on the other side all the stores and a transporter pad in the middle of that, at the end of one hallway through some doors leads to a large room specifically for shipyard stuff with ships in the background, on the opposite side of the hallway is Quinn's office.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
ESD has two levels one of which is unused. I'd take the second deck and make that a civilian deck which would have things like Club 47, sick bay, observation room (where you can see the ships), stores, and holosuites. The current level would contain areas for Starfleet personnel only like skill training, ship management, Holodecks for training, the admiral's office, administrative offices, weapon supply compartments, and an officers lounge.
While we're looking at starbases maybe one glaring omission from DS9 could be fixed, add the medical bay to the station.
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That's what I said as well!
But they obviously don't listen to the players. With all the problems in this game - some major and some very minor - they think people complained about ESD's layout? That's what they want to work on? It's fine and in my opinion a lot of fun. I spend a lot of time being a ninja and jumping to places once thought off limits.
I've seen it twice in the origional series but only twice briefly, it looked like a rougha and ready ship.
It only ever appeared as a bearly visable scematic in TWOK (I think), never in TOS.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Yeah, especially if your character happens to be a Caitian!
The current ESD is big and roomy, and all of our avatars are tiny children playing as the adults are off dying.
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the interior of ESD has not changed much even in the last revamp only biggest change was the bank/exchange area. I believe that the revamp of ground ESD will be even bigger than the old one and I look forward to it.
won't happen they would have to kill the game off to do a engine overhuaul
wow you remember that, It did feel bigger.
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Yes it does. ESD is the first place new players see outside of the tutorial. First impressions are important.
The first impression they'll get is that ESD is the troll central of the gaming industry regardless what Cryptic does with ESD. If they're trolls they'll stick around and if they're sane they'll run away as soon as they can and never return to ESD.
Besides, I fail to see what's wrong with ESD?
Depends on what time of day they start playing. At night ESD is full of trolls with nothing better to do with their lives than sit around on a mmo game ranting about politics and religion or telling the same lame, stupid gorn jokes (and I use the word joke loosely because a joke is supposed to be funny).
As far as the new look for ESD it's decent enough but did ESD really need to be changed? couldn't the time and resources have been better spent fixing glitchs that have been around forever or improving something else that could use the work more?
hmmm... i like it, fits the newer STO style and reminds me a bit to the Odyssey's special bridge, nice
Indeed. If they all wore the same uniform, and some bugs where fied, well, it'd be a VERY nice map (although it already is).
Plus, I never understood why they didn't just use holograms. In fact, the Oddesey needs a special interior, with holograms and stuff.
Agreed. Doesn't fit to the Screen DS9 at the second look and the Promenade NPCs behave like Zombies.
Part of the Mushroom top section around the centre cavern.
One question, where is that stateroom from the past ESDs?
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Obviously you don't understand how MMO's work.