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steveob1982steveob1982 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Just seen some specs for the universe class ship and wow that thing is massive (and weird looking)

Wonder what the likelyhood is of the universe class ship entering service with STO.
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  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Small to no likely hood.

    Some call it ugly ... I call it: Fascinating!
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  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Previously, they have said it was too big for STO, but we have four of the largest Trek ships in the game, (Voth City Ship, JH Dreadnought, D'Deridex, and the Scimitar), so who knows
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Gawd I hope not. You think trying to get near a system with a dozen Scimitars parked around it is bad, imagine getting by a dozen of the ent-j. That's some scary stuff there.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm not sure we will ever get to fly it but i can see it appearing in a time travel mission.

    its size and the fact its from the 26th century would suggest we wont actually fly it ourselves. although size can easily be altered for game purposes, and it was never really confirmed on screen how big it was. Maybe as some microscopic number on a computer panel at best? And we also already have timeships so anything can happen.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Weird looking here having the meaning b**t ugly.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    steveob1982 wrote: »
    Just seen some specs for the universe class ship and wow that thing is massive (and weird looking)

    Wonder what the likelyhood is of the universe class ship entering service with STO.
    Part of the reason for the Enterprise F contest was because CBS said NO to the J and the F was giving us a futuristic Enterprise to fill the void.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Not to mention, that because of the Temporal Wars of the series 'Enterprise', the Enterprise-J existed in an alternate time-line that has nothing to do with TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voyager
  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    grouchyotaku wrote: »
    Not to mention, that because of the Temporal Wars of the series 'Enterprise', the Enterprise-J existed in an alternate time-line that has nothing to do with TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voyager

    or it can be just like the USS Pasteur from All Good Things.
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    Previously, they have said it was too big for STO, but we have four of the largest Trek ships in the game, (Voth City Ship, JH Dreadnought, D'Deridex, and the Scimitar), so who knows

    It dwarfs all of those combined. The saucer is thick enough that a hollow spot could dock most of them. The Borg command ship is getting closer, and already breaks the firing arc system, the J is bigger still.

    The Voth fortress ship in The Breach is bigger, though, and that would probably be the best way to implement the J, with the bulk of the ship built into the map scenery with targetable hardpoints built into it. It could work as a defensive version of The Breach. Story wise, though... I suppose it could be built into a temporal cold war arc or they could shoehorn the sphere builders in as a new villain somehow.
    Part of the reason for the Enterprise F contest was because CBS said NO to the J and the F was giving us a futuristic Enterprise to fill the void.

    From what's been said, CBS didn't say no to the J itself, but to Cryptic's idea of a scaled-down version designed to not break the game. Basically do it to scale or don't do it at all. The Breach does show that Cryptic's gotten more clever lately and can "cheat" megaships into the game without breaking it.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    steveob1982 wrote: »
    Just seen some specs for the universe class ship and wow that thing is massive (and weird looking)

    Wonder what the likelyhood is of the universe class ship entering service with STO.


    We definitely will never see the Enterprise-J as a playable ship, it's just too massive.

    However, I still hope they will add her to STO someday. Years ago, they said she simply was too big to model, but now we got larger ships like the Voth Dreadnaughts flying around. So they can't use that excuse anymore.


    And still think STO could fit nicely in filling in the gaps, why the Sphere Builders returned, and why 24th Century ships were present at the Battle of Procyon.
  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    grouchyotaku wrote: »
    Not to mention, that because of the Temporal Wars of the series 'Enterprise', the Enterprise-J existed in an alternate time-line that has nothing to do with TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voyager

    Which says nothing about the E-J existing in the future of this timeline.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Part of the reason for the Enterprise F contest was because CBS said NO to the J and the F was giving us a futuristic Enterprise to fill the void.
    Look on the bright side everyone. We still have the Enterprise-G, Enterprise-H, and Enterprise-I to go before we really NEED the Enterprise-J in the game.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If we have that massive Voth ship from the Breach event, then we can easily have the Enterprise-J as some npc object.
  • fauxpasiiifauxpasiii Member Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    steveob1982 wrote: »
    Just seen some specs for the universe class ship and wow that thing is massive (and weird looking)

    Wonder what the likelyhood is of the universe class ship entering service with STO.

    Perhaps it can be added, not as a playable ship (too big), but as a map where we can dock or fly around ?
  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    steveob1982 wrote: »
    Wonder what the likelyhood is of the universe class ship entering service with STO.

    About the same as JJ's Enterprise being implemented.
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  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    From what I can find, there is no real official Size set, only the conceptual artist's original intention for it.

    I think a Scimitar Sized version of this ship would be good enough, not to mention the windows and lights need to be updated a bit, the interior shot of the ship looks as how the game is progressing.


    I say let it in, the only real size comparison is a blown out of proportion artists concept.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    a3001 wrote: »
    About the same as JJ's Enterprise being implemented.

    Actually the odds are far higher than that. The Enterprise-J is an actual canon ship that is available to Cryptic provided they can come up with a decent story that CBS agrees with to introduce it as some stationary object like DS9. A Playable Enterprise-J is just not possible. The JJ Enterprise requires permission from CBS and Paramount and that is not going to happen.
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I vaguely recall one of the Design the Enterprise-F finalists looked like a smaller derivative of the E-J. It looked good to me. I figure we will see that one eventually.
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  • kamenriderzero1kamenriderzero1 Member Posts: 906 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The JJ version is a whole separate license. Cryptic can only work with "prime" timeline.

    Universe class is 200 some years ahead of the game, we're 3 enterprises short, Drexler envisioned the ship as being about 2 MILES long. Let's put that in perspective, that's 5 standard Galaxy Class ships parked stem to stern in a line. Nose of the saucer right next to the tail of the nacelles.
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    kamenriderzero1 wrote: »
    The JJ version is a whole separate license. Cryptic can only work with "prime" timeline.

    Universe class is 200 some years ahead of the game, we're 3 enterprises short, Drexler envisioned the ship as being about 2 MILES long. Let's put that in perspective, that's 5 standard Galaxy Class ships parked stem to stern in a line. Nose of the saucer right next to the tail of the nacelles.

    The OP isn't discussing the Enterprise from the JJ Abrams film. Enterprise-J was suggested to be an Enterprise within the Prime Timeline of the future. Scale, as Azurian suggested, isn't really the issue anymore. As has been previously observed by Orangeitis, we would have to see the G, H, and I long before we ever see a Starfleet city ship with a letter J upon the hull.
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  • xigbargxigbarg Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Man, i'd hate to deal with all the anomalies that break out on or inside that ship.

    "Captain, all the civilians in City Section G-2 have vanished after touching the nebula. It appears that only the portion of the ship that touched the nebula was affected."
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    or it can be just like the USS Pasteur from All Good Things.

    Difference is that the Pasteur had a registry so low (NCC-58925) that is was most likely already in service in the TNG era so there's no uncertainty there.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Difference is that the Pasteur had a registry so low (NCC-58925) that is was most likely already in service in the TNG era so there's no uncertainty there.

    Even if it wasn't already in service, most ships take a fairly long time to design and construct.

    The general idea was that the Galaxy class took 20 years to design and develop (witch is strengthened by the fact that the Pegasus, when Riker was an Ensign, was used as a testing platform for some of the tech that was later included into the Galaxy).

    So there is a good chance that the Pasteur was at least in early design phases during TNG.
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  • collegepark2151collegepark2151 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Maybe they could make the Ent-G or H a smaller version that echoes the Universe Class ala Ambassador to Galaxy.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    steveob1982 wrote: »
    Just seen some specs for the universe class ship and wow that thing is massive (and weird looking)

    Wonder what the likelyhood is of the universe class ship entering service with STO.

    STO's been going for four years now and you only just thought to ask this? I'm surprised that literally no-one has ever asked about this before!

    In short, no. We won't be getting Ent-J.
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  • captainmal3captainmal3 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You guys are way overestimating the size of this thing. Yeah, it's two miles long, which makes it about 2/3rds the length of a borg cube's side, and probably smaller than the scimitar which is already in game.
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