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Are the rest of the T2-T4 going to have Fleet Refits?
davidwford
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In particular, I am looking for Fleet versions of Qorgh and Pach Raptors, Dacoit and Marauder Flight-deck Cruisers, Vandal Destroyer, Phalanx and Draguas Support, and K'Tanco battlecrusier.
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As for the Vandal destroyer. . .doubtful. Just look at it. It's too similar to the Scourge in appearance, just for starters. It's more likely that we'll get a Fleet Guramba before we get a Fleet Vandal.
The Dacoit and Marauder Flight-Deck Cruisers? Don't see that happening. Dacoit's got the same problem as the Vandal, it's too similar in appearance to the Corsair. The Marauder is a butt-ugly vessel that, even when it was given away for FREE for a time, nobody wanted to really fly it. There's also only so much room for something like Flight-Deck Cruisers. Quite frankly, they ain't that popular unless they're particularly kickass in some way. People usually prefer full-fledged carriers or half-carriers that have maneuverability or some other aspect (see: Armitage and Vesta). Between the Vo'Quv, Kar'fi, and the Fleet Corsair, along with the various multi-faction options available for Lobi or Lockbox. . .I'd say the KDF's good on hanger-platform options. What the faction really needs is more raptors and destroyers, and a few more science ships. Those new science destroyers are a great start, and along the lines of what some KDF players have been asking about for a while now.
They could do the same thing with BoP, their all pretty much the exact same thing, so let them share skins.
Particularly the Hegh'ta class!
They even promised us to take alook at it a few months ago in Ask cryptic, well take their word for anything they say.
Anyway as long as the other factions are unbalanced versus romulans, it really doesnt matter does it. Oh wait they also promised to look at the exclusive boffs only available on rom side, i guess they only 'looked' lol.
^ Yes this! B'rotlh skin for the Fleet B'rel please!
When I bought the B'rotlh this was one of the things I looked forward to, being able to use the cool-looking B'rotlh skin on my B'rel.
Seems kind of glaringly obvious and pretty easy to work out in a dev meeting. Probably wouldn't even be dev blog worthy.
Heck, I would be okay if they even overhaul the ship entirely and make the fleet retrofit a Kumari counterpart. Just say you routed power from the reactor directly into the forward disruptor banks or some such suicidal nonsense. =P
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Don't count on it, but I do think that the alternate BOFF and console layouts should be added to the fleet variants.
Indeed, and the Dacoit would also cover the role of a tac-focused beam cruiser as a counter part to the science-y fleet corsair. It's kinda small for a cruiser, so it'd be quite amusing to see something like that have a dmg potential similar to a Regent.
And about gorn ships, i personaly wouldn't mind the gorn Phalanx to be added as a KDF counterpart to the Fleet Nova (not that failed attempt of a multi-use Fleet Varanus) with a Lt Com Tac bridge officer.
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But seriously, I recall Geko saying something in the veins of "Draguas and Phalanx" look very similar to the Varanus so there's no point in doing Fleet verions of those". Sometime later he promissed to look into the missing Fleet ships, but like you've said, I guess he just "looked". It's been several months since he promissed Fleet Guramba, Fleet Marauder, Fleet D'Kyr and several others to be added to the game. Still nothing... I guess it's more profitable to sell us the same ship 9 times (Dyson Sci Destroyers, one 3-ship bundle per faction) than to dust off some interesting old designs.
I for one am sick of those non-faction specific ships. Even though I own several Lobi, Lock Box and event ships I still tend to fly many of the "inferior" Fleet variants, such as Fleet Nova, Fleet Galaxy, Fleet Sabre, Fleet Corsair or Fleet D'deridex. I would gladly get my hands on some other classes, such as aforementioned Fleet Guramba, Fleet Marauder Fleet Phalanx etc, especially if they should have some interesting boff layouts.
Honestly, I'd rather see them make more T5 Retrofits of those ships and then make Fleet versions available. We have enough Fleet ships on the KDF end that were made from low-tier ships and are therefore unable to benefit from the Fleet Ship Module discount that is so readily available on the Fed and Rom sides. It'd be nice to see that same discount more readily available on the KDF end... though for the love of Kahless not locked under yet another Holding.
A tac oriented Dacoit is high on my list of desired fleet ships, along with Marauder and Gurumba.
And because I can dream, desirdered boff layout of tac Dacoit would be something like:
Cmd, Lt, LtC, En, Lt (though Ferengi Marauder has this)
OR
Cmd, En, LtC, Lt, Lt (though essentially the Torky)
OR
Cmd, Lt, LtC, Lt, En (would be unique though Galor is close)
OR
Cmd, En, Lt, Lt, LtC (would be unique in its own right)
Gorn ships definitely need to happen. Varanus is the only non lockbox/lobi, pure sci vessel in the KDF fleet. Don't have any 5x sci console options.
When we got the gold ships on our starbase wall was the first time we discovered this ship, lol. Went for a couple of days before we discovered what it was a model of.
Definitely a good contender for a fleet version, or at the very least a skin option, very unique shape.
The Mirror Negh'Var was nice, sure - but where's the Fleet Assault Negh'Var, eh?
As mentioned about the B'Rotlh and even the QulDun/Qaw'Dun...why aren't they available skins/kitbashes/costumes(whatever you want to call them) for the Fleet B'rel? The Raiders are supposed to be picking up Flanking and some other "buffs/adjustments"...does that mean we'll see some magic happening there?
It's a T2-T4 thread, but what about the Fleet Guramba and Fleet Marauder, eh? Is the Fleet Guramba going to end up in some new holding with S9 like they did the Kar'Fi with S8? Heck, notice a ship missing there in that category? Where's the 2-2.5k Zen Raptor? And yeah, once it's there - where's its Fleet version?
There's the Fleet Varanus - the sickly cousin of the Fed's Fleet DSSV. Fleet Phalanx? Fleet Draguas? You know...some Fleet Science?
In the end, to an extent, imho that is...it kind of comes down to two things: missing ships and missing costumes. Some folks are fine with the stats of whatever ship they're in, they just want a different costume. Some folks are looking at the gaping holes where ships just don't exist. Cryptic will do whatever is likely to generate the most revenue...with the way the game's going, have to figure we'll see more of the Barbie 'n Ken Star Trek Fashionstravaganza before we see any meat and potatoes...
Well said, this is exactly right we need the T5 versions first so we can get the discount. Hell I'd be happy if they knocked 500 Zen off the price if it means no new model skins but they are still valid for the fleet discount.
And putting the fleet versions into the starbase rather than a new expansion sounds fair to give the KDF a bit more parley with the other factions.
I couldn't have said it better myself. So many truths there.
Draguas and Phalanx would be a great addition to the KDF fleet. I'd love to see some more Gorn, Orion Naucassian ships with additions including Ferasan and Lethean. A shame Cryptic thinks the Federation needs more and the other factions need less. :rolleyes:
I agree I only have a Galor on the KDF side, which I no longer really use. I might take it out for a spin but that is about it. I do have a D'kora and Bug on my Federation characters but I really don;t play them anymore. One because I am sick of the Federation, it's majority player attitude and the fact they get so much while the rest of the game is falling apart with bugs and lack of things such as ships and uniforms to keep up. The other reason is I don;t have the time to work on them, too much grind for me to worry about them anymore.
To be honest I really liked the Temporal ships, being faction unique at least in exterior visuals and I'd like to see something like that happen again in the future. The whole thing about CBS not wanting everyone to fly alien ships that aren't part of their faction is moot now, in every STF, every PVE Queue you can 9 times out of 10 find a co-player with a lock box ships of some sort.
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Draguas is a completely different model. And there are two NPC Draguas ships, one is a support the other is a cruiser (you see the latter in Fleet Alert, it has a different model).
I can't find the quote offhand but I recall as well that they said the Gorn ships look to alike. Not to say I'm against the other two being added to the fleet roster but I gotta agree the three flyable Gorn ships do look pretty similar.