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romulan aves destroyer
Hull:28,500
Shield Modifier:1.25
crew 600
battle cloak
fed solanae destroyer
Hull:28,500
Shield Modifier:1.3
crew 400
i like the way they think 0.05 shield modifier is worth a battle cloak, like if the ability to use op boffs and singularity powers wouldnt benefit the romulan destroyer enough
Please, take 0.5 shield of my vesta and give me a battle cloak
*once you bring the server on of course
Hull:28,500
Shield Modifier:1.25
crew 600
battle cloak
fed solanae destroyer
Hull:28,500
Shield Modifier:1.3
crew 400
i like the way they think 0.05 shield modifier is worth a battle cloak, like if the ability to use op boffs and singularity powers wouldnt benefit the romulan destroyer enough
Please, take 0.5 shield of my vesta and give me a battle cloak
*once you bring the server on of course
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That's not even 0.5, it's 0.05. Really makes it worth it, huh?
i bet the cstore version of the destroyers will have +10% hull and shields, that makes it 1.375 with 31350k hull for the aves, and as shown in the mission, +1 tac console slot
I wasn't really trying to call out your mistake so much as I was trying to point out that the difference is even tinier than you mentioned, making the "tradeoff" even more insubstantial.
They don't get a nice huge RP map that takes longer to run around and enjoy the sights on your way to the bank.
of course there are enough to run dhcs, 2xtt1, crf1, crf2, apo3 with doffs, when you need apo of course, coz you can change to siphon or fbp or gw whenever you need, that makes almost 13 skills
proton barrage is allready enough to instakill, add to that more proton stuff from the set, and the ship can do pretty well in a dog fight with all the crappy spam we have, doesnt need rsp too ...
Dog fight? You mean using SBJ and that new hirogen console?
4DHC on 5 tac console escorts has a hard enough time being enough, i dont think 3.5 DHCs with 3 tac consoles powering them is going to get the job done, even with every offensive sci skill. but then theres that romulan version that can run a vap build with 1 of everything he would need for maximum pain with no worries of up time because he can battlecloak
i mean, who needs the rest, who needs 0.05 shield mod and a little bit more power that will go to your pointless subsystem anyway
Romulan:-
+ Crit boosting boffs of all careers for FREE (eat that embassy). Oh and they also have the subterfuge trait.
+ Singularity powers, including the uber quantum absorption and the equally uber singularity jump.
+ Romulan Battlecloak on all ships.
+ Valdore console + Borg 2-piece bonus = nigh invincible with no active healing powers required. I use the valdore console on it's own on all my poorly equipped farmer Rom alts so they can tank ESTF gates with well below standard equipment.
- Lower power levels... Which aren't remotely a concern at lvl 50, even if you're being drained.
KDF:-
+ Cloak
- Supposedly less hull then their Fed friends, though I haven't really seen this.
Federation:-
...
The devs need to do a major balance pass, upping both KDF and Fed ships and boffs so they can match the Roms. I'd rather they nerf the Roms, but I see that being less likely than a buff for Fed and KDF.
Except for the Valdore console, that needs to be nerfed like crazy.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
cstore will have 4 tac consoles, and even if it only had 3 dhcs, dont forget it has sensor analisys and an op console set that is asking for proton barrage
Everyone will run a vape build since they have no drawback compared to normal ships, and whoever cant get a cloak ship, will be flying a super mega tanky zombie ship, in order to tank the vaper, with of course, lots of spam in the middle and some lag for whoever is not in usa
and eventually, guys like me that are just confuse about going rom kdf tac, or just leaving the game
in tac mode all the sci ship features turn off. 1 of the 3 in the packs is likely to have 4 tac consoles, but all we know about is these 9 console ships. the sci LT being uni would solve a lot of the fed ships problems compared to this free one, but as it stands the fed version we can grind is an order of magnitude inferior if you ever use the tac mode.
damn, dont even talk about uni stations on this ship -.-''
1 thing is true' this ship cant make a pure torpedo boat if you are willing to use all its features
Singularity core -40 power is pretty much the killer for science... trying to combo sci with tac in one ship with -40 power ya I hate to say it but its going to be terrible. Trying to switch weapon power and aux power... soemthing is going to have to give... in fact more then one system is likely going to have to be set to 15 for way to often. These things are going to pop faster then bops.
For sci vape your better off with another warbird.... for Science Ship... better off saving some pennies for a voth with cloak consoles... or a time ship with out one.
The version to watch out for out of the 3 is the klingon ship... clearly the best of the 3 options.
you know, i think you're right. Even though it has a standard cloak, it's the only actual KDF science ship with a cloak and it's way better than the viranus and Vo'quv. I like those two ships but this new one is going to be nice
I know it's not much of a good ship compared to other fed ships, but for the KDF these ships will be freaking awesome
why people do still think that -40 power is a fair tradeoff for singularity powers -.-''
my vesta would live with that, i mean, i want that lol i can tank as much as i do now without 40 shield power, since almost all resistances come from skills and elite shield, rsp can help too
if i ever fly that ship, it would be all power to weapons anyway
It's hilarious how much a none-issue the power levels are.
Not to mention singularity jump and quantum absorption.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
IF you are going to fly a science ship with -40 power and only 2 engi stations... and try to push power back and forth from weapons and aux... you are going to die a lot. True story.
I can tell you I have played all 3 ships the Klingons win this round. Which is fine by me I will be making sure all my klink scis have this ship and a couple tacs as well. A proper klingon science ship that feels in every way like it is something the klingons would produce. Only thing I would have liked is if the skin was a cross between a brel and a klink time ship instead of the mini battle cruiser look.
Its not that the Rom Sci version will be the worst ship in game but it won't be a better option then a Dhlean if you want to kill things... and if you want to play as a science ship... its going to suck hard better off getting a pallisade and being short a boff bonus or running the time ship and forgeting about cloak.
EDIT - Also guys don't forget these things have console sets coming later... romulans flying this are either going to be able to slot the ship console set or a couple romulan consoles. Not really both... unless they are willing to start eating into tac console slots or something. (With out the singulatiry stabalizer I find sing powers are complete junk. imo) That alone puts the ship at 3-4 cossole slots chewed up.
So you can slot it on lockbox ships. The ship comes with the spare core because its part of a set... if you choose to use the set on say a pallisade or something.
they even out-swag the vesta
There newer then the vesta what did you expect... that the vesta would be the last ship you would ever be offered for $.
I'll call it now... 8-12 months from now a new ship will one up the dyson destroyer.
I'll even call this now... around that time you can expect a fleet vesta... at the most 3 months after anyway. IT will be tied to a fleet holding... I'm Nostradamus reincarnated.
If the cores where = I would agree with your... but there not.
Sing Core is great for a ganking style build that would indeed us a bc.
The Rom ship is sadly an odd hybrid that is going to prove sub par... you will see them tooling around for a few days and then almost no one will fly them.
You will see fed and klink versions around lots though no doubt.
a c store version, with say a universal LT and 4th tac console, that would be about on par with a dhlean, and has the option of running as a sci ship. these free ones, i think they may be over hybridized to the point of dysfunction. theres just to many similar alternatives that can do as well or beter