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If you were producing a Star Trek Tv show.........
hawkwing43
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I have read many post about what people would like to see as a new show, so I figured to have fun with that idea, and expand on it a bit more.
So........
You are the Producer of a NEW Star Trek TV show, you been given a budget of 15 million per season, with 13 episode. per season ordered. You have the green light to do 3 full seasons, with another 3 on hold pending the ratings of the 1st 3 seasons.
You can pick from A rated actors to play your key roles, with unknowns to fill out the other cast. You will be give a few walk on guest stars roles of TOP level actors, and star trek actors of the past will get cameos over the course of the season. Some of the Older Star Trek actors must get a story arc in each season, as part of your deal for the new show. How many you use is up to you.
So what would you do if you had control to make a new show?
So........
You are the Producer of a NEW Star Trek TV show, you been given a budget of 15 million per season, with 13 episode. per season ordered. You have the green light to do 3 full seasons, with another 3 on hold pending the ratings of the 1st 3 seasons.
You can pick from A rated actors to play your key roles, with unknowns to fill out the other cast. You will be give a few walk on guest stars roles of TOP level actors, and star trek actors of the past will get cameos over the course of the season. Some of the Older Star Trek actors must get a story arc in each season, as part of your deal for the new show. How many you use is up to you.
So what would you do if you had control to make a new show?
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Primary cast:
Michael Dorn...as Worf, son of Mogh.
Jeffery Combs...as Chancellor Jm'pok, because Jeffery Combs pwns.
Kevin Michael Richardson...as Molor. (antagonist)
John deLancie...as Q. Because Q.
Wil Wheaton...as Captain (random Klingon name) of the IKS (random name). (protagonist)
Cobie Smulders...as First Officer (random Klingon name). (protagonist)
Somebody new, with talent, in two other protagonist bridge roles.
3 recurring minor character protagonist roles, filled with interesting people with decent talent.
Extras as Klingon warriors, Felk'lhri demons, et cetera.
Plot: Basically follows the Felk'lhri Horde story arc, with more battles, a couple of MacGuffins, a breather episode before the final battle, and lots of bloodwine. The show is also broadcast online with a Klingon dialogue option.
Special effects: Pretty much like the TNG movies, but with more blood and fire and explosions. No lense flares, ever. Lots of bat'leths and injury makeup.
Whaddaya think?
If 3 more seasons get green-lit, start season 4 with a massive invasion of Qo'noS by the Hur'q, and have seasons 4 and 5 focus on revenge and war efforts. Season 5 closes with the discovery of the Iconian threat. Season 6 involves the protagonists finishing off the Hur'q and preparing for a preemptive strike on the Iconians, with the climactic epic battle happening for the finale.
I'd sit at my desk and cry because NCIS has over twice my per-episode budget and no matter how good a job I do with my measly $1.15mil per episode (before accounting for set costs and signing bonuses for the actors) I will never even have even half as many viewers.
So yeah, I'd cry for a while and putter around and wait for the network to cancel my show. Because even if I was given twice as much money as NCIS gets per season I still wouldn't ever get half as many viewers.
Which is why Star Trek isn't coming back to TV.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Does that make you feel a little better sander233? So, lets make it so, and you can stop crying over the lower budget.
I think starting with unknowns then helps the show to develop more freely. I would have the main characters family backrounds maybe linked to a character from ST history, so the audience can have some links to shows previous.
1 start off with a colony on the edge of federation space, theres an attack, and a war, starfleet gets pushed back ( sort of red dawn style) and they become marquee style guerrilla style fighters, Small ship, rebels on the edge kind of thing perhaps,
Could use it as a bit of a deep look at morality and how those without the luxury of being able to follow the federations moral stance have to behave just to keep on going
Not sure if thats really classic trek though, might not go down well with the fanbase , but lets take the show in new directions, Make the trek no one has made before
2 well i couldn;t think of anything else, For that matter i'm not entirely satisfied with number one
6 Episodes
The Cold Open, a series centering on the the B.C.S.(Breen Confederate Ship) -Breen ship Name- during the Dominion war. Include mourning of Breen and Cardassian losses by the mixed crew. Have them show the faces of the Breen by having the Cardassians and Vorta in climate controlled suits. Show that the Breen and Dominion were far more than evil monsters who had no concern for themselves.
The Breen and Cardassians would be played by unknown actors, the Breen likely played by teenage actors/actresses thanks to the young Breen breading age.
6 Episodes
The Call, a series centering on a mixed crew of young officers from the Klingon Empire, Romulan Star Empire, and United Federation of Plannet. These crewmates are together thanks to the sad idea of a Think Tank that the Dominion war may persist for generations, and they need to see if crews will cooperate. Takes place on the U.A.S. (United Alliance Ship) Archer, a ship named for the man who brought four cultures together under a single banner.
The main crew would be played by unknown actors, most in their 20-30s, perhaps an episode with Picard or Sisko though.
Finale
A final battle between the B.C.S. and U.A.S. ships, the two fighting over Uran Nor, a space station which the Federation fears may be attempting to open its own artificial wormhole to the Gamma quadrant. While the Alliance task force is destroyed attacking the station, the Archer survives, and launches boarding teams with the characters people have come to enjoy aboard. The only ship in the area B.C.S. -Insert name- launches a defense of the station, sending its troops, including people who the audience likes, to help station security before engaging the Archer. Then I would go all game of thrones on it, killing loved characters rapidly
2404 they make it out of the nebula, to find a starfleet distress call from none other then the USS Enterprise NCC-1701 - E under the command of captain Worf. worse the ship attacking the Enterprse is none other then another federation starship.
the crew of the history now has to decide what they want to do join the new federation government ran by section 31 or join the remnants of the old starfleet.
who new cast, with old star trek actors appearing on both sides of the conflict. though i would want Miral Paris to be a regular that joins the crew after they awaken.
the only problem is that i don't see any star trek show lasting if it only has 13 eps per season. you would need a least 24 to 26 eps
Fed: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=780321
RR: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=12150781#post12150781
KDF: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=784941
..just wanted to mention it...
Yep know about it and directed by Tim Russ
I'd ask for more money. This is not the 1980's. 15 million would not get you very far. Game of Thrones for example costs 6 million per episode.
The first Season (2346) would be exploration-based with the occasional confrontation with the Cardassians, with the next two seasons focusing on the actual war. If I got the next 3 seasons, I'd probably look at the approaching Tholian conflict.
Of course, I'd make sure to have plenty of actual exploration as well.
For the main cast, I'd probably pick Christopher Eccleston as the Captain, because I feel confident he can play the role of a Starfleet Captain in wartime well while still being able to do light-hearted episodes. I'd also have a cameo by Patrick Stewart as Captain Picard with the hero ship meeting the Stargazer on the frontlines.
Oh, and I'd have Robert Downey Jr as the ship's First Officer... 'cause RDJ.
If I got green-lighted for yet another 3 seasons, I'd run a season on the Federation-Tholian conflict.
Trials of Blood and Fire
Moving On Parts 1-3 - Part 4
In Cold Blood
"Star Trek: Rubicon" Season 1, Season 2 A new era, a new time, a new crew, a new ship, a new mission...
"I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment because it will never come again."- Jean-Luc Picard
HELL YES!!!
Ninth Doctor pwns. Did you see him in Thor 2? Not much of a role, but he was ****ing ELECTRIC in it.
No, I haven't, but I plan to. :cool:
Eccleston's such an underrated actor, and his performance as the Doctor is exactly why I picked him.
Trials of Blood and Fire
Moving On Parts 1-3 - Part 4
In Cold Blood
He's freaking AMAZING. Not quite as good as Tennant, McKellen, or Stewart, but AMAZING.
He was so freaking awesome as Malekith. He doesn't have very many lines or close-ups, and he doesn't get much of a backstory or motivation, but he milks what he does get for everything it's worth.
And he is awesome. Especially when he's hopped up on Evil Powah and is thrashing Thor's rear while hamming it up with Evil Rage. And he's smart enough to do things like have a steroid-pumped buddy at his back when he invades Thor's house and beats the tar our of Thor's friends' ships with his perfectly-cloaked, gratuitously oversized battlecruiser.
Now I'm not advocating we do this on the cheap, but there are many reasons why GoT costs as much as it does, and those reasons most likely would not apply to a hypothetical Star Trek series.
Ecclestone>>>Tennant, at least as far as Doctor Who goes.
Anyway, what I'd do: I'd basically depict an all-out invasion of the Federation by the Borg. I was massively dissatisfied with how the Destiny books unfolded, but the core idea of the story was good. I feel that a Borg invasion is the kind of story that should be told, as you can't put a villain like the Borg into a setting like Star Trek and keep having the good guys win by the seat of their pants. The Borg are basically an outside context problem for the Federation, and I just find that idea fascinating. A technological utopian society that is post-scarcity (more or less, perhaps less so but the point is they have near limitless resources and the society is a pretty sweet place to live) vs a technologically superior dystopian society that enslaves its members and forces them to go off and enslave others. There's a lot of scope in that kind of storytelling, and I'd focus on themes like sacrifice, needs of the many, and how do you deal with the moral issues in a war for survival. Is it right to kill the borg, when every member of the collective is as much as victim as they are villains? What price is too high to pay to win against such an implacable enemy?
I have this story percolating in my brain in the form of a fanfic series anyway, but I'd love to show it onscreen. Most of the story would focus on a couple of ships with crews who survive the initial battle and have to deal not only with the fight for survival but also being thrust into positions they may not have been ready for. So for example one ship would be commanded by a veteran captain who dies in battle and the first officer - who's capable and experienced but still not experienced enough for captain - has to take over. I'd also be more inclined to pull the trigger on a character since that's one area in which Trek has always lagged: death is rarely permanent. Other than David and Tasha Yar, very few deaths remained permanent. Even Dax came back as Ezri after Jadzia left the show.
C'mon. David Tennant is a god among men, one of the top 3 best actors in the world. Christopher Eccleston is just an incredibly talented actor.
Top 10 best actors in the world (in order):
Sir Patrick Stewart
Sir Ian McKellen
David Tennant
Christopher Eccleston
Benedict Cumberbatch
Tom Hiddleston
George Takei
John Barrowman
Avery Brooks
Zachary Quinto
That's my top 10.
Each season would focus on a different ship and/or crew. The technology and ship would play a small but there would be at least 2 or 3 episodes that involved a lot of technobabble. Some of the stories i would do are:
The genesis wave series- 3 parts
Q-Squared 2 parts
The " A time too...." series could be almost a whole season of 2-3 part episodes.
Would even like to go so far as to make the " new Earth" series into a season. That would be the coolest one.. would be set in between TMP and TWOK.. odviously wouldnt be the original crew, but that book series is fantastic!!! It has several entries that focus on secondary characters, and several more entries the introduce some really awesome aliens.
In summary: I would use the books for my stories, each season would be different character to a point... crossover episodes from TNG, DS9 and Voyager episodes would be easy with all the books to use for stories.
Not sure if it would work on not, but if I had 35-40$ mill per season to play with,, i would give it one hell of a try!!!
Fleet Admiral In charge of Bacon
Fighting 5th Attack Squadron
The Devils Henchman
At least one crew member would get written out each season finale, with a new one being added at the beginning of the next.
As Star Trek does very well, issues of the day would be dealt with in a sci-fi setting, and no subject would be out of bounds.
The writing would have to be top notch, and a lot of the money would be spent on gathering great stories and making a really polished script. I wouldn't want to throw all the money into dazzling effects, I would want the characters to feel real. But I would insist on a shuttle bay set with shuttle props that can be craned into location when out filming.
Lots of on location filming, lots of good plots, great soundtracks, stories that play on treknology, but basically a lot of fun and pure escapism for the viewers who can feel immersed in a great show.
Sadly I don't have the skills to pull something like that off though, so the best thing I could do is hand it over to someone who could.
That said, I was pleasantly surprised by the depth of the scripts for the shelved Star Trek animated series from the mid 2000's. Interesting concept.
Star Trek: Rebirth (scenario)
Main Cast:
-- USS Indomitable NCC-98347 (Enterprise-class Multirole Cruiser)
-- Captain Varus Karn (3/4 Bajoran, 1/4 Romulan male from Bajor; played by Jon Huertas) - Commanding Officer
Grandson of a Romulan expatriate and her Bajoran husband, and a decorated career officer, Karn was an advanced tactics instructor at Starfleet Academy prior to the fall of the Federation's core worlds. When the enemy (haven't decided who they are yet) reached Alpha Centauri he was recalled to active duty and placed in command of the untested Indomitable with a skeleton crew drawn from Academy and Headquarters staff and instructions to get two companies of cadets to safety. Earth surrendered a week later, and Varus and company fought their way clear of the blockade and fled to Bajor, where he was contacted by a Section 31 operative trying to set up a resistance movement.
--- Characterization: Tough, savvy guile hero, perfectly comfortable with being part Romulan, but a bit standoffish and regretful about having to abandon the core worlds instead of fighting.
-- Commander Mahasin al-Harazi (human female from Archer IV; played by Naz Deravian) - First Officer
The liaison officer to the Bajoran Militia before the war, she also has extensive diplomatic experience dealing with the various major and minor species that use DS9 and its surrounds as ports of call. She had originally planned to enter the Federation Diplomatic Corps after retiring from Starfleet. After the fall of Earth she requested a transfer to the Indomitable.
--- Characterization: Calm and collected, usually friendly but a tough negotiator. A practicing Muslim, though not a particularly devout one (doesn't wear hijab, and insert joke about not bothering to try and face Mecca on a starship).
-- Lieutenant Commander Dr. Tenya Oras (later Tenya Meer), Ph.D. - (Trill female from Trill; played by Bridget Regan) - Science Officer
A subspace physics instructor at Starfleet Academy, Starfleet Command assigned her to the Indomitable as first officer, but she wasn't comfortable in the post and asked for the science officer position instead once they were clear of Sol. Has to take a symbiont to save its life after the joined Trill cadet initially carrying it is mortally wounded a few episodes in.
--- Characterization: Sweet, cheerful, initially somewhat jittery in battle, but that subsides after her joining with the Meer symbiont. Develops UST with Captain Varus.
-- Ensign Peter Freeman (human male from Huxley II; played by Justin Martin) - Tactical Officer
Born to a working-class mining family on a colony near the Romulan Neutral Zone, and a member of that year's would-be Academy graduating class on tactical track, Freeman took over at the tactical station when the redshirt initially assigned there was killed by shrapnel during the escape from Sol. Captain Varus gave him a field commission.
--- Characterization: Street-smart kid with a lot to prove, but mellows out as he gains experience and is later promoted to lieutenant junior grade.
-- Lieutenant Grell (Ferengi male from Ferenginar; played by ... doesn't particularly matter since you can't see most of his face) - Section 31 operative, undercover as Security Officer
A former Ferengi Alliance intelligence officer with dual citizenship in the Federation, he was recruited into Section 31 a few years afterwards. He is one of the movers and shakers behind the scenes of the Starfleet resistance. He recruited the Indomitable's crew into the resistance movement and, given the fact that she was a reasonably well-equipped ship with a good crew, chose to insert himself aboard. Has lots of contacts all over the Alpha Quadrant, particularly in the Ferengi Alliance. Initially only Varus knows he really works for Section 31, but as the series goes on the other command staff figure it out or have to be let in.
--- Characterization: A bit of a joker, tempered by a degree of ruthlessness. In service to Federation survival above all else. Very good at reading people, also good at computers.
-- Commander Dr. Orott (Vulcan male from Vulcan; played by Raza Jaffrey) - Chief Medical Officer
A thoracic surgeon originally attached to the Starfleet Headquarters Hospital, and the son of an aide to the Vulcan delegation to the Federation Council. A career officer.
--- Characterization: Stoic, by-the-book, with almost encyclopedic medical knowledge.
-- Lieutenant Felina Genestra (Betazoid female from Betazed; played by Morena Baccarin) - Chief Engineer
A warp core engineer the Indomitable rescued from the flaming wreck of her sister ship, the Enterprise-G, during the escape from Sol.
--- Characterization: Initially quite shell-shocked over the destruction of her old ship, with nightmares and so forth, and throws herself into her work as a distraction. Initial character arc consists of coming to terms with it.
-- Master Chief Special Warfare Operator C'Rel (Caitian male from Cait; played by whoever's willing to play a freakin' furry, lol) - MACO Unit Head
A security noncom and the usual go-to guy when violence may ensue, whether aboard ship or on away missions.
--- Characterization: Snarky and unfailingly practical in his approach to problem-solving (think Jack O'Neill with fur).
Recurring Cast:
-- Admiral Angela Reese (human female from Earth; played by Nicola Walker)
The de facto head of Starfleet, as the seniormost flag officer remaining alive and uncaptured when the Third Fleet was forced to withdraw from Sol.
-- Rotating cast of noncoms and crewmen on the Indomitable
Uses bottle episodes heavy on characterization to keep costs down
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I imagine the pilot showing us the everyday lives of 5 normal people from around the prime universe.
A Klingon warrior, who made a terrible error and is working as a prison transport guard.
A Federation human farmer on an outlying colony world.
A young Orion pick pocket
A Romulan who works as a clerk in local government
An Andorian who goes door to door and fixes replicators.
Circumstances conspire to have them all on the same transport, when theres some sort of terrible accident.
When the smoke clears, they are the only survivors. However, they are also now in the mirror universe.
Cue normal people in the mirror universe trying to get home.
I wouldn't want 6 seasons, I'd pitch it as a self contained story in three and ask for a bit more budget in return.
I was with you right up until Mirror Universe.
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