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griffansgriffans Member Posts: 15 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Klingon Discussion
I absolutely adore the Ferasans and their vibes they give off.

I also enjoy the Duty officer assignment chains and little stories that accompany them but I wish that the Ferasans themselves where expanded upon ingame e.g.

More Ferasan NPCs and missions orientated around them. Ferasans are quite aggressive and I would assume territorial but it is not stated where abouts their space or homeworld is located although I assume it is someplace close or inside Cardassian space or some place close to the Bajoran Wormhole as the Ferasans if I recall where somewhat part of Dominion lockboxes a while back or something.

Here is what I would love to see:

- Ferasan ships ( I now the Caitans have their carrier ship for Feds, I think ferasans have something like a Raptor as it is a predator like ship)
- Ferasan based missions potentially revolving around Ferasan Nepeta Leaves?)
- Ferasan/Caitan conflicts? Free to expand
- Ferasan weaponry? Maybe a Ferasan forged and designed bat'leth or Sword.
- Ferasan homeword!!

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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    griffans wrote: »
    - Ferasan ships ( I now the Caitans have their carrier ship for Feds, I think ferasans have something like a Raptor as it is a predator like ship)

    What most people seem to want is a Ferasan escort carrier.

    - Ferasan based missions potentially revolving around Ferasan Nepeta Leaves?)
    - Ferasan/Caitan conflicts? Free to expand
    - Ferasan weaponry? Maybe a Ferasan forged and designed bat'leth or Sword.

    All of this is really unlikely to happen, for the sole reason that it hasn't happened for any of the other KDF member species.

    - Ferasan homeword!!

    The Gorn have been asking for the Gorn homeworld for years before the Ferasans were in the game.

    This is also my first post so hello!

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  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I would love this and the same for the Caitians but... It is unlikely.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited January 2014
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well, according to Memory Beta (Memory Alpha only mentions that Caitains call their home planet "Ferasa" in their own language) Ferasans are the result of genetically engineering the Caitians. The link to their homeworld brings you to Cait, the home of the Caitians. If one were to take this information at face value, they come from the same planet.

    Perhaps somewhere down the road there'll be a storyline about their reunification? Of course, that would make the whole Fed-vs-Klingon thing even more dicey, so...
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    bergins wrote: »
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    It isn't my job to consider that. Why should I have to do all the work of quoting someone multiple times just so that people with your app can understand me? Instead why don't you complain to the people that made the app to have the feature to see colored text.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    It isn't my job to consider that. Why should I have to do all the work of quoting someone multiple times just so that people with your app can understand me? Instead why don't you complain to the people that made the app to have the feature to see colored text.
    If you read my post again (don't worry, I'm quoting the important part below) you'll see it isn't just a problem with the app:
    bergins wrote: »
    ...not to mention the fact that the forums take out nested quotes when you reply to a quote, so responding to your points becomes difficult, too.
    That's for everyone in the forum. Putting your text inside a quote means it is un-quotable.
    Seriously, reply to my message. You won't be able to use this text unless you copy/paste. Doing it "your way" is actually bad forum etiquette.
    Snark noted.
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  • sirboulevardsirboulevard Member Posts: 722 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    griffans wrote: »
    I absolutely adore the Ferasans and their vibes they give off.

    I also enjoy the Duty officer assignment chains and little stories that accompany them but I wish that the Ferasans themselves where expanded upon ingame e.g.

    More Ferasan NPCs and missions orientated around them. Ferasans are quite aggressive and I would assume territorial but it is not stated where abouts their space or homeworld is located although I assume it is someplace close or inside Cardassian space or some place close to the Bajoran Wormhole as the Ferasans if I recall where somewhat part of Dominion lockboxes a while back or something.

    Here is what I would love to see:

    - Ferasan ships ( I now the Caitans have their carrier ship for Feds, I think ferasans have something like a Raptor as it is a predator like ship)
    - Ferasan based missions potentially revolving around Ferasan Nepeta Leaves?)
    - Ferasan/Caitan conflicts? Free to expand
    - Ferasan weaponry? Maybe a Ferasan forged and designed bat'leth or Sword.
    - Ferasan homeword!!

    This is also my first post so hello!

    The Ferasans and Caitians (and Tellarites, Pakleds and other undeveloped races) need more love. And I totally approve of this. I actually did a similar propose some months back. And even wrote a Foundry mission, Honor of Ferasa, to explore the Ferasans.

    I interpret the race as an amalgamation of several of the other races hats. They value honor among their prides like the Klingons and their Great Houses, they're not opposed to duplicity like Romulans, they're genetically modified making them Augments, and they are highly territorial like... well pretty much most lifeforms.
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I'm absolutely fascinated by the non-Klingon KDF races. How do they see themselves, and how do they fit into Klingon society? Have they all adopted Klingon culture? How do other Klingons see them? Do they hold equal standing in Klingon society? How about the Gorn Separatists or Orion Syndicate - how do they fit into the bigger picture?

    Some of these concepts have been touched upon in-game - Ambassador S'Tass is an interesting fellow, and I really enjoyed the Hassan the Undying arc on Nimbus III, but I would love to see more. There are a lot of unexplroed possibilities.
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  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hello and welcome my feline friend!

    The irony of the Klingon faction is that the Klingons are actually the least interesting of the factions species (not to say the Klingons can't or aren't interesting at times).
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Why do the Ferasans deserve any of this? If Ferasans get this kind of love, shouldn't every other race in STO get it as well? What's so special about the Ferasans that you single them out to receive this content?
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    Why do the Ferasans deserve any of this? If Ferasans get this kind of love, shouldn't every other race in STO get it as well? What's so special about the Ferasans that you single them out to receive this content?

    It's the same as anyone asking for specific stuff for a species that is their favorite.
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  • sirboulevardsirboulevard Member Posts: 722 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    Why do the Ferasans deserve any of this? If Ferasans get this kind of love, shouldn't every other race in STO get it as well? What's so special about the Ferasans that you single them out to receive this content?

    Because any race that gets some focus is singled out. Thats what Legacy of Romulus was: seeing Civilian romulans. thats what featured episodes are: The Breen arc is about the Deferi, the 2800 is about the missing Jem Hadar, Cloaked intentions was about the Remans and the oncoming storm of the Iconians.

    The Ferasans (and Caitians) have the unique opportunity of never ONCE having their story told. No day in the limelight. The closest they've had was The Slaver Weapon when the Ferasans were still the Kzinti. They're now a seperate race from that and as such are a blank slate.

    And lastly, regardless of any species getting attention, isn't Trek about exploring strange new worlds and seeking new life and civilizations? Here's some new civilizations!
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I'm hoping to see a lot of raiding content for this year of 2014. So it would be nice if they introduced a lot of raiders for KDF Klingon and non-klingon types :) More Klingon bops, ferasan stalkers, and orion raiders :)
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Because any race that gets some focus is singled out. Thats what Legacy of Romulus was: seeing Civilian romulans. thats what featured episodes are: The Breen arc is about the Deferi, the 2800 is about the missing Jem Hadar, Cloaked intentions was about the Remans and the oncoming storm of the Iconians.

    The Ferasans (and Caitians) have the unique opportunity of never ONCE having their story told. No day in the limelight. The closest they've had was The Slaver Weapon when the Ferasans were still the Kzinti. They're now a seperate race from that and as such are a blank slate.

    And lastly, regardless of any species getting attention, isn't Trek about exploring strange new worlds and seeking new life and civilizations? Here's some new civilizations!

    I've yet to see a Benzite or Tellarite or Trill or Andorian episode in STO. Or a Nausicaan episode, and they have a whole line of ships.

    Ships and maybe a mission or two featuring Ferasan culture would be fine but I reject the notion that they deserve their homeworld before any of the races that have been in-game far longer, especially the poor Gorn, who've had it teased and talked about for an eternity.

    Your cats are nothing special is what I'm getting at.
  • sirboulevardsirboulevard Member Posts: 722 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    I've yet to see a Benzite or Tellarite or Trill or Andorian episode in STO. Or a Nausicaan episode, and they have a whole line of ships.

    Ships and maybe a mission or two featuring Ferasan culture would be fine but I reject the notion that they deserve their homeworld before any of the races that have been in-game far longer, especially the poor Gorn, who've had it teased and talked about for an eternity.

    Your cats are nothing special is what I'm getting at.

    Well youre in KDF Gameplay, not Federation. I would like there to be more for those but thats a different sub-forum.

    Personally, I would like the Gorn AND Ferasans to get their homeworlds at the same time. Maybe tie a story together with them. Get a double whammy of story.

    And its special to the people who want them.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Which episodes of the show did the Ferasans appear in again? Or are they a movie-only species?
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Which episodes of the show did the Ferasans appear in again? Or are they a movie-only species?

    Ferasans are Kzinti. Just can't use the same name because of restrictions.

    @jex And none of the other species are special either :).
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    What I'd like to see instead of a new faction/fraction (hurhurhur), is the idea of a sub-faction. So for example, you want to play a ferasan in the KDF. Instead of going through all that klingon-centric house vs house stuff or the fek'lhri, you have your own mini-campaign.

    You could extend the same thing with gorn and orions and so on. Because as it stands right now, it seems like the KDF campaign really caters to klingon characters moreso than any other.

    On the flipside, this is less of an issue with starfleet, which means this idea or proposal has a snowball's chance in hell of ever being implemented. But I'd prefer this to lol wanna play as Hugh's borg? Or Cardassian? Well you have to join one of the two factions at level 10 :v
  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Which episodes of the show did the Ferasans appear in again? Or are they a movie-only species?
    As I understand it, ferasans were based off of the kzinti, who appeared in an episode of TAS written by Larry Niven called 'The Slaver Weapon'. Because Niven retains the rights to kzinti (they were his original creation) they couldn't use the name in-game.

    It's actually a pretty cool episode. TAS can be hit and miss, but that episode was good.
  • sirboulevardsirboulevard Member Posts: 722 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    stofsk wrote: »
    As I understand it, ferasans were based off of the kzinti, who appeared in an episode of TAS written by Larry Niven called 'The Slaver Weapon'. Because Niven retains the rights to kzinti (they were his original creation) they couldn't use the name in-game.

    It's actually a pretty cool episode. TAS can be hit and miss, but that episode was good.

    It is a cool episode.

    However, I think any Ferasan content going forward should be a bit divorced from the Kzinti source material out of respect for Larry Niven. Kzinti have their own franchise now (back then Niven didn't know if Known Space would succeed) so the Ferasans should make their own path. They've already got some differences (like sapient females), so I think it opens the door for Cryptic to do anything with the race.
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  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    In the bad old days of Starfleet Command, based of the table top game starfleet battles, which has since evolved further..

    We had the Kizinti, and we had the Lyran's. Rumor has it that Kizinti, and Lyrans are related.. genetically (and was all reported as a great way to start a bar fight at a neutral space station or break up a diplomatic conference)


    Situation reminds me of the Catian/Ferasan situation.

    Someones been paying attention to the research methods of NI Lobachevsky...

    Wonders off singing Plagiarize, let no ones else's work evade your eyes, and be certain to lay you eyes, don't shade your eyes, but plagiarize, plagiarize PLAGIARIZE, only please to call it... research.. And who deserves the credit, and who deserves the blame, Nicoli ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name! Ayyyy Nicoli..
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  • sirboulevardsirboulevard Member Posts: 722 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    In the bad old days of Starfleet Command, based of the table top game starfleet battles, which has since evolved further..

    We had the Kizinti, and we had the Lyran's. Rumor has it that Kizinti, and Lyrans are related.. genetically (and was all reported as a great way to start a bar fight at a neutral space station or break up a diplomatic conference)


    Situation reminds me of the Catian/Ferasan situation.

    Someones been paying attention to the research methods of NI Lobachevsky...

    Wonders off singing Plagiarize, let no ones else's work evade your eyes, and be certain to lay you eyes, don't shade your eyes, but plagiarize, plagiarize PLAGIARIZE, only please to call it... research.. And who deserves the credit, and who deserves the blame, Nicoli ivanovich Lobachevsky is his name! Ayyyy Nicoli..

    The Lyrans were the Caitians with the serial numbers filed off because of wierd copyright holdings regarding the Animated series.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Both Ferasans and Caits are pretty much blank pages. All the copyright hassle aside, if we assume Caits/Lysans and Ferasan/Kzinti are the same we saw a little about on-screen in TAS and a very brief glimpse in STVI we know literally nothing at all about those people.

    Yet, the same applies to pretty much every "minor" race in the Star Trek universe. What do we know about Tellarites, Orions, Nausicaans and Benzites really, outisde fan-fiction?

    Havin a homeworld for every race and a brief set of story content, especially one that explains the weird red-federation layout of the KDF faction, would be welcome. But I highly doubt anything like that will happen, it's hard to monetize on that kind of stuff ;)
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  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The Lyrans were the Caitians with the serial numbers filed off because of wierd copyright holdings regarding the Animated series.

    Ummm, no. The Lyrans, while similar to the Kzinti and Caitians, are an independent major power allied to the Klingons, while the Caitians are federation members. Bizzarely, in the Starfleet universe the Kzinti end up being staunch Federation allies because of the combined threat of the Klingon / Lyran alliance.
  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    oh I agree. yet it is a some what parallel situation.

    The Lyrans were added to SFB originally as a counterpoint to the Kizinti. What made Kizinti special was small nimble, and somewhat fragile ships in way heavy on seeking weapons and using fighters/shuttle as a primary offensive weapon. (Kizinti introduced fighters to the game)

    Lyran came in to counter point them and had a special weapon which was specific to countering close in fighter attacks and countering seeking weapons.. An energy field powered off a capacitor called an expanding sphere generator. you could set it for greater distance in exchange for how much damage it could cause..greater distance=less damage before it was used up. ships could mount multiples but could only use one at a time. they could also be used against ships... i could talk about the subtleties of ESG use. Players did find ways to use it in ways the game designers never thought of. This is something that happened a lot in SFC, and the computer game based off it, SFC. (Drones were OP! Yep they were if you didn't learn how to fight against them...)

    Ferasan ships.. when they appear should have some unique mechanics/ability. (if it even closely related to an ESG I may well cry foul.... unless of course they get "permission" from ADB to do so.. I think it might be a nice salute to the past.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I really just want at least more customization options before anything else.
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  • killdozer9211killdozer9211 Member Posts: 920 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Seeing as there's 3 other allied kdf races that can't even sport female characters, one of which doesn't have a a ship representing them in the fleet either, I'd say the semi-canon cat races are towards the back of the line for expansion, or at least should be, considering.
  • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited January 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    I really just want at least more customization options before anything else.

    new customization options dreams then I give you: :P

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=14662721&postcount=1

    although I though that tailor hack had been fixed prior to LoR release
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kapla1755 wrote: »
    new customization options dreams then I give you: :P

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=14662721&postcount=1

    although I though that tailor hack had been fixed prior to LoR release

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