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Hanger Pets - AOE immunity.
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I love my Vo'Quv, but one thing I can't get over is why hangar pets don't have AOE immunity.
Could you imagine how much escort captains would cry if 4-12 of their weapons were instantly disabled for up to 60 seconds every time they killed something? Or every time Donatra fired that thalaron pulse?
Even if it weren't true AOE immunity, even if it were just warp core explosion immunity, that'd be enough.
I just hate getting my BoPs up to 5 stars, only to see them vaporize because they decided to park next to the cube (and worse, lower their shields because I made the mistake of trying to recall them AWAY FROM THE CUBE).
Could you imagine how much escort captains would cry if 4-12 of their weapons were instantly disabled for up to 60 seconds every time they killed something? Or every time Donatra fired that thalaron pulse?
Even if it weren't true AOE immunity, even if it were just warp core explosion immunity, that'd be enough.
I just hate getting my BoPs up to 5 stars, only to see them vaporize because they decided to park next to the cube (and worse, lower their shields because I made the mistake of trying to recall them AWAY FROM THE CUBE).
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Recall should grant evasive maneuvers as a passive. Turns off when changing commands
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
Seems the issue is more that pets cling to targets (still) and die in the resulting warp core explosion.
I think the Evasive manuevers on recall is a better option.
R.I.P
That might actually work well. Not a bad thought.
I don't want to wait for my Hangar-pets to respawn or micro manage them, so nerf everything that is effective against them.
Soon there will be an invulnerable carrier with 20 pets at their command all they need do is launch them and that's it the work is done for them !
If you count fighters, the heavy escort carriers.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
Obviously not counting fighters...
If fighters are weapons could non carriers get a few more slots to even it up?
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
Four forward, three aft. That's seven.
Add the Phaser PDS from the HE Refit and the HEC's Photon Torp PDS... that's nine.
Then you have two device slots which you can fill with the turrets acquired through purchasing (dip or Marauding) or stealing the plans (espionage) and built by your ship's engineering department.
That's a total of eleven weapons.
(In cruisers... The Avenger adds a fore weapon slot, a device slot and the VATA console for fourteen possible weapons. The Gal-X has eight weapon slots, the Phaser Lance, four device slots and can fit the two PDS consoles for a total of fifteen weapons.)
Problem is, it basically turns your ship into a glass-jaw build if you're not careful... which makes it understandable that hanger pets have glass-jaws against AOE abilities and weapons.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
or add a "harass" command where they stay outside of 5KM during their attacks. personally I would LOVE my scorps to stay right around me and just hammer away with their plasma torps, and only use their cannons on stuff coming inbound. that's theoretically how escort or intercept are suppose to work but they do not.
Clearly you fail at reading.
No, I think he's mainly referring to the borked AI (still) that has pets stupidly clinging to areas that any sane person would be moving away from, like a ship about to go critical. Or that GW that they happily fly into, even though where they started at, they would not have been affected.
butcher suspect, "What'd you hit me with?"
Temperance Brennan, "A building"
IF targetdeath = yes
THEN move away from target position until at least 3.0 km away.
As it stands the only way I can be sure I'm getting some of my fighters back is by recalling when the enemy is at 5%.
I think NPCs including pets and the timeship copies should simply get immunity specifically to ship explosions, not all AoE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85t3aLQzTsI
Yeah, it would be nice to have warp core breech immunity
No I am pretty sure he specifically stated that he wants his pets to be immune to the only real effective counter against them, and as such wants the counter removed from the damage list for them.
Mainly because thats exactly what he said.
I don't think they should be immune, but perhaps a spot of damage reduction vs. ship explosions wouldn't be out of order, just enough so that they have a good chance of surviving, but throw in a few seconds of some debuff or another to go with it.
Frigates don't suffer as much. They do, but not like fighters that die when someone sneezes in the same quadrant.
The AI does need improving. They're like moths to a source of light when that warp / singularity core is about to explode.
Not actually true. In some cases there's two different explosions. I've had entire fighter squadrons wiped out the INSTANT a borg cube hits zero hull. A fighter can only attempt to evade the second larger explosion if they survived the first one.
Except the BoP pets lower shields when you recall them. So they either eat both explosions and get killed, or you recall them and they lower their shields and hover there for a few seconds, and die to a single explosion.
I have usually found that even when I lose those Frigates, they last so long that my Hangar is always fully charged, ready to replace them as soon as any are lost. Compare that to Fighters, if the fighting is even somewhat significant, they're dying so fast that I'm waiting for the Hangar to recharge, regardless if they were 5 star Fighter units or not.
Knew what it was before I clicked. lol
Hmmm I read that too
Fighters aren't so bad, the hangars have such a short cool down, they can be spammed. My BoPs take roughly 45 seconds when I don't have 100 in aux power. Lots of things can die in 45 seconds that take the pets with them.