I will have the grace to not name the player, or the things the player said to me.
But basically, I got my head bitten off, some really, really nasty PM's. All I did was in team chat, replied about said player swearing in team chat with "How polite on boxing day! "
Obviously I hit ignore, but the things the player said, really hurt, y'know? It's the holidays, it's boxing day, I'm trying to have some fun playing on STO.
I've actually been put off playing STO today, if players like that are going to insult me so seriously during Christmas. I'm sorry, but it's not a day to be so rotten.
(/END RANT)
words are words, they are not stones and your not being stoned to death. your anonymous as the next cyber bully or the ever anonymous player in game. these places like those utterly silly social networking sites are a paradise for trolls, parasites and other unwanted types and is a fact of life. if you let those words get to you and that player on the other end controls your actions you deserve what you expected to happen as a life lesson.
just distance yourself from insults and slagging matches, it never does any good to get into one and come out of one let alone others to watch the general chat and wanting it to be over. some people just cant be reasoned with and the best thing to do is agree to disagree and ignore them or just forget the whole thing.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I believe the basic concept is encapsulated nicely by John Gabriel's Greater Internet [Jerk]wad Theory (edited for family consumption, and I didn't link it because the language is a bit NSFW). The basic theory is, "[Normal Person] + [Anonymity] + [Audience] = [Total ****wad]". It was originally formulated as a response to Unreal Tournament 2004; however, MMOs provide plentiful verification of that theory.
that entirely depends on the psychology of different games. where i live there are two towns nearby, the first town are more open and willing to be friends, the second town has more serious outlook and more bullies and they are within 20 minute drive from each other. the change in this type of behavior is seen from game to game, general community on STO has been relatively pleasant with the odd rotten apple and it happens, but SWTOR on the other hand is full of trools (trolls and tools), spammers and elitists like WoT.
consider how that this formula was dictated, it was specifically targeted at the pvp group because UT is entirely fps pvp with a set rule book. it may have no bearing on the general community.
T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW. Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I agree, as far a douche bags go, STO has far less than SWTOR.
As far as Team chat goes in PUGs, I ignore it, most people who screm, swear, and cuss do it to cover up for the fact they really suck at the misssion.
The OP is one of the Good Guys. It would be challenging to find someone as helpful or nice. Not impossible, but certainly less easy than most would want.
Bikers and truckers have a phrase we use. One Percenter. One percent spend all day creating a bad image for the other 99 percent. I suppose the same thing could apply to MMO players. I am unsure because STO is my first and so far only MMO.
Replying to or acknowledging the presence of a one percenter only reinforces negative behavior. So don't acknowledge them or what they type or say. Easy to say. Hard to do. There are plenty of times I have to remind myself it takes two people to have an argument and it takes less energy to simply back away from a confrontation.
A six year old boy and his starship. Living the dream.
I bet you the jerk is a frustrated PVPer who cannot find anyone to gank and has to take his frustrations against anyone he can.
OR, a "frustrated" PvEer who gets repeatedly blown up at Ker'rat and rage-PMs "UR a haxx" because he can't understand why his blue Connie phasers fitted to an escort with stock shields aren't doing much verses a KDF ship with Covariant X 2 MK whatever with purple consoles geared for tanking, and guns and gear made for popping Fedscorts.
You are playing with folks that range from well adjusted sane people looking for fun, to obsessive number-crunchers who can only understand their little world. You have people who play because they like Star Trek, others who play because they like space-ships, and still others who simply log into a game to troll.
Players range from 14 to 50+, some of us have been lifelong gamers (Tabletop!) others are new to the whole online community thing.
Some people realize that there is a person just like them behind the @name... while others see the text and don't make the personal/emotional connection.
In the end, you'll find yourself ignoring people, sometimes turning your back on entire sub-communities or pulling the plug on guilds. For example I had a bad experience PVPing, now I steer clear of the whole mess. Other folks refuse to STF because some "elite teams" care more about number-crunching than having fun. I had my fill with that crowd, now I PUG for fun and for profit.
Don't let it get to you, it's just a game. Ignore-command makes the problem go away and life goes on.
Im guessing its to do with an elite stf maybe???
You may have messed up on that elite stf and that player who started on you,thought you were a noob,and to learn what to do next time?
My answer to that would be to that player,either go onto the public elite chat channel,to play elite stuff,or organise a private stf in your fleet.
If players want instant success in stfs,and want to avoid inexperienced players,then avoid doing PUGS.
Many of the people who scream that someone else is a noob on elite STFs are the ones that screwed up in the first place. I have seen many times where someone that repeatedly did something stupid (like using a grab well right on top of the transport in no win scenario, or repulsors and pushing ships into range of what you are trying to protect etc) and they pick someone else to blame. What is really sad is that fairly often everyone else will blame the first person blamed regardless of who actually screwed up.
In the end there are basically too many people that don't seem to realize or care that there is another person on the other end of the connection and they act extremely abusively. It is one thing I really miss about the older MMOs in the early days. There where far fewer people online, netiquette was still considered very important etc. Now we have people that don't know what any kind of etiquette is and they are extremely abusive.
I will have the grace to not name the player, or the things the player said to me.
But basically, I got my head bitten off, some really, really nasty PM's. All I did was in team chat, replied about said player swearing in team chat with "How polite on boxing day! "
Obviously I hit ignore, but the things the player said, really hurt, y'know? It's the holidays, it's boxing day, I'm trying to have some fun playing on STO.
I've actually been put off playing STO today, if players like that are going to insult me so seriously during Christmas. I'm sorry, but it's not a day to be so rotten.
(/END RANT)
So its like this. The guy is nasty, cussing and has no manners. Probably lives sad life and is angry at the whole world. Now when you say something kind like this to such a person do you really expect them to get all warm and fuzzy inside, stop cussing and just be a nice person?
I don't believe there are people in online games who cuss would say "oh yeah sorry about that" when you point out that maybe they could be a bit less nasty because its a special day in your life?
I've had similar experience couple of times. They would hate you from the depth of their guts and will try to offend you as hard as they possibly can if you point at their profane language. You can make all kind of conclusions but people like that are mostly single, immature, live pretty dark life in some dark basement or cheap place. They hate their jobs, they hate their parents and pretty much act like wild dogs.
Try to go to the woods in the middle of winter find a wolf pack and see if one of them will let you scratch behind their ear. There are many people out there who are no better than those wolves and wild dogs and pointing out their stile of life or bad language will get you pretty much cussed off on the internet, or badly hurt or killed if you say it into their face.
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words are words, they are not stones and your not being stoned to death. your anonymous as the next cyber bully or the ever anonymous player in game. these places like those utterly silly social networking sites are a paradise for trolls, parasites and other unwanted types and is a fact of life. if you let those words get to you and that player on the other end controls your actions you deserve what you expected to happen as a life lesson.
just distance yourself from insults and slagging matches, it never does any good to get into one and come out of one let alone others to watch the general chat and wanting it to be over. some people just cant be reasoned with and the best thing to do is agree to disagree and ignore them or just forget the whole thing.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
that entirely depends on the psychology of different games. where i live there are two towns nearby, the first town are more open and willing to be friends, the second town has more serious outlook and more bullies and they are within 20 minute drive from each other. the change in this type of behavior is seen from game to game, general community on STO has been relatively pleasant with the odd rotten apple and it happens, but SWTOR on the other hand is full of trools (trolls and tools), spammers and elitists like WoT.
consider how that this formula was dictated, it was specifically targeted at the pvp group because UT is entirely fps pvp with a set rule book. it may have no bearing on the general community.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
As far as Team chat goes in PUGs, I ignore it, most people who screm, swear, and cuss do it to cover up for the fact they really suck at the misssion.
Bikers and truckers have a phrase we use. One Percenter. One percent spend all day creating a bad image for the other 99 percent. I suppose the same thing could apply to MMO players. I am unsure because STO is my first and so far only MMO.
Replying to or acknowledging the presence of a one percenter only reinforces negative behavior. So don't acknowledge them or what they type or say. Easy to say. Hard to do. There are plenty of times I have to remind myself it takes two people to have an argument and it takes less energy to simply back away from a confrontation.
News flash: PvEers are far from being saints.
:rolleyes:
You are playing with folks that range from well adjusted sane people looking for fun, to obsessive number-crunchers who can only understand their little world. You have people who play because they like Star Trek, others who play because they like space-ships, and still others who simply log into a game to troll.
Players range from 14 to 50+, some of us have been lifelong gamers (Tabletop!) others are new to the whole online community thing.
Some people realize that there is a person just like them behind the @name... while others see the text and don't make the personal/emotional connection.
In the end, you'll find yourself ignoring people, sometimes turning your back on entire sub-communities or pulling the plug on guilds. For example I had a bad experience PVPing, now I steer clear of the whole mess. Other folks refuse to STF because some "elite teams" care more about number-crunching than having fun. I had my fill with that crowd, now I PUG for fun and for profit.
Don't let it get to you, it's just a game. Ignore-command makes the problem go away and life goes on.
You may have messed up on that elite stf and that player who started on you,thought you were a noob,and to learn what to do next time?
My answer to that would be to that player,either go onto the public elite chat channel,to play elite stuff,or organise a private stf in your fleet.
If players want instant success in stfs,and want to avoid inexperienced players,then avoid doing PUGS.
In the end there are basically too many people that don't seem to realize or care that there is another person on the other end of the connection and they act extremely abusively. It is one thing I really miss about the older MMOs in the early days. There where far fewer people online, netiquette was still considered very important etc. Now we have people that don't know what any kind of etiquette is and they are extremely abusive.
I hope it changes but I doubt it.
So its like this. The guy is nasty, cussing and has no manners. Probably lives sad life and is angry at the whole world. Now when you say something kind like this to such a person do you really expect them to get all warm and fuzzy inside, stop cussing and just be a nice person?
I don't believe there are people in online games who cuss would say "oh yeah sorry about that" when you point out that maybe they could be a bit less nasty because its a special day in your life?
I've had similar experience couple of times. They would hate you from the depth of their guts and will try to offend you as hard as they possibly can if you point at their profane language. You can make all kind of conclusions but people like that are mostly single, immature, live pretty dark life in some dark basement or cheap place. They hate their jobs, they hate their parents and pretty much act like wild dogs.
Try to go to the woods in the middle of winter find a wolf pack and see if one of them will let you scratch behind their ear. There are many people out there who are no better than those wolves and wild dogs and pointing out their stile of life or bad language will get you pretty much cussed off on the internet, or badly hurt or killed if you say it into their face.