Exactly. And assuming all Doctor incarnations present had their audio on, they would have heard the cry "No sir! All 13!" Should have alerted the 11th Doctor that he has one more regeneration at least.
Eh, it seems that The Doctor frequently isn't able to remember encounters with his future selves, as outlined in The Day of the Doctor. I'm willing to accept that this occurred as it pertained to the 13th version.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
I disagree. When Clara begged the Doctor to change the future, he said that he could have when there were Time Lords, but he couldn't by himself. So, Clara begged the Time Lords to help him change the future, which they did by granting him a new set of regenerations. The Doctor no longer dies on Trenzalore, because he was able to regenerate.
Timeline rewritten.
You're thinking too linearly. Remember how Gallifrey survived the Time War? That technically should have rewritten 9's life. He should not have thought himself the Last of the Time Lords and therefore would not have connected with Rose. But we learned that War did not remember the events after they happened, so 9 assumed he deployed The Moment and destroyed Gallifrey. If you look on the previous page, I went into this in detail. Long story short: The timeline did and did not change.
To quote the Doctor: "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."
You're viewing the events of Trenzalore as a parade. You see the floats make a left turn and assume that it will never go down the street ahead. I, however, am standing on the float. I pass you and follow the float's course to the left. But what it actually does is circle the block and go up the street anyway and turn at the intersect again again making a left. But from you point of view, the parade now goes right on a new street, not your left to the old. From my point of view, I know that the float has reached made many turns to reach the predetermined path.
The Doctor's Final resting place was prophesied as Trenzalore and Eleven would fall. And what happened? Eleven "died" on Trenzalore. That half came to pass. Which means that Trenzalore still happens.
I would also like to point out that if Trenzalore does not happen, then that means Clara could not dive into the Doctor's Timeline and save him in Asylum of the Daleks.
But she did. So the Doctor will always be buried on Trenzalore. Not now, though. But when his time does come, he will request his Tardis and body be shipped the Trenzalore. Because if it doesn't, then Clara does not become the Impossible Girl.
Wibbly Wobbly. Timey Wimey.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"
You're thinking too linearly. Remember how Gallifrey survived the Time War? That technically should have rewritten 9's life. He should not have thought himself the Last of the Time Lords and therefore would not have connected with Rose. But we learned that War did not remember the events after they happened, so 9 assumed he deployed The Moment and destroyed Gallifrey. If you look on the previous page, I went into this in detail. Long story short: The timeline did and did not change.
To quote the Doctor: "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."
You're viewing the events of Trenzalore as a parade. You see the floats make a left turn and assume that it will never go down the street ahead. I, however, am standing on the float. I pass you and follow the float's course to the left. But what it actually does is circle the block and go up the street anyway and turn at the intersect again again making a left. But from you point of view, the parade now goes right on a new street, not your left to the old. From my point of view, I know that the float has reached made many turns to reach the predetermined path.
The Doctor's Final resting place was prophesied as Trenzalore and Eleven would fall. And what happened? Eleven "died" on Trenzalore. That half came to pass. Which means that Trenzalore still happens.
I would also like to point out that if Trenzalore does not happen, then that means Clara could not dive into the Doctor's Timeline and save him in Asylum of the Daleks.
But she did. So the Doctor will always be buried on Trenzalore. Not now, though. But when his time does come, he will request his Tardis and body be shipped the Trenzalore. Because if it doesn't, then Clara does not become the Impossible Girl.
Wibbly Wobbly. Timey Wimey.
Only fixed points in time can't be changed. The Doctor has encountered too many points in time where it doesn't match what should have happened. The Doctor and his companions are aware of the change to history, but everyone else is not. Time is malleable so what happens in one episode doesn't happen in another episode. The Doctor remembers going to his grave on Trenzalore and Clara being split up into millions of copies, but his grave no longer exists on Trenzalore. After all, the Great Intelligence tried to kill the Doctor in every possible point of his existence and obviously that is impossible without some Temporal Paradox occurring. Since we don't see the Great Intelligence or Clara in the previous seasons, then it further proves that time is malleable.
In one timeline, the Doctor fought on Trenzalore with no regenerations and no chance of survival and dies on Trenazlore. The new timeline, the Doctor fought on Trenzalore with no regenerations and no chance of survival, but he is given at least one more regeneration and doesn't die on Trenzalore. The crack in the wall disappears resulting in no one interested in Trenzalore. So obviously we saw the point where the Doctor should have died. He was fighting for centuries on Trenzalore, tons of people died fighting that war, and he was going to die if not for someone giving him a regeneration. Since the crack in the wall faded, all the Daleks were destroyed, and the signal no longer exists, then there is no point for another war to start on Trenzalore since it seemed like a planet that lost its significance. The Doctor might visit Trenzalore again, but thousands or millions of years later, there won't be a Time Lord walking on Trenzalore to visit his grave.
Clara wouldn't be the Impossible Girl if she couldn't withstand a simple Paradox. So she would have millions of copies out there even though the timeline that made her the Impossible Girl doesn't exist anymore.
Only fixed points in time can't be changed. The Doctor has encountered too many points in time where it doesn't match what should have happened. The Doctor and his companions are aware of the change to history, but everyone else is not. Time is malleable so what happens in one episode doesn't happen in another episode. The Doctor remembers going to his grave on Trenzalore and Clara being split up into millions of copies, but his grave no longer exists on Trenzalore. After all, the Great Intelligence tried to kill the Doctor in every possible point of his existence and obviously that is impossible without some Temporal Paradox occurring. Since we don't see the Great Intelligence or Clara in the previous seasons, then it further proves that time is malleable.
In one timeline, the Doctor fought on Trenzalore with no regenerations and no chance of survival and dies on Trenazlore. The new timeline, the Doctor fought on Trenzalore with no regenerations and no chance of survival, but he is given at least one more regeneration and doesn't die on Trenzalore. The crack in the wall disappears resulting in no one interested in Trenzalore. So obviously we saw the point where the Doctor should have died. He was fighting for centuries on Trenzalore, tons of people died fighting that war, and he was going to die if not for someone giving him a regeneration. Since the crack in the wall faded, all the Daleks were destroyed, and the signal no longer exists, then there is no point for another war to start on Trenzalore since it seemed like a planet that lost its significance. The Doctor might visit Trenzalore again, but thousands or millions of years later, there won't be a Time Lord walking on Trenzalore to visit his grave.
Clara wouldn't be the Impossible Girl if she couldn't withstand a simple Paradox. So she would have millions of copies out there even though the timeline that made her the Impossible Girl doesn't exist anymore.
We've seen what happens when a paradox occurs in the events of Fathers Day. This is not a paradox. This is the natural flow of the Doctor's timeline. There is no new timeline. It's the same timeline from different points of view. The Doctor's grave will be on Trenzalore, but it may be thousands of years after the town has been evacuated for them to visit. The timeline remains the same, but we are seeing the events fold out from a different point of view.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"
We've seen what happens when a paradox occurs in the events of Fathers Day. This is not a paradox. This is the natural flow of the Doctor's timeline. There is no new timeline. It's the same timeline from different points of view. The Doctor's grave will be on Trenzalore, but it may be thousands of years after the town has been evacuated for them to visit. The timeline remains the same, but we are seeing the events fold out from a different point of view.
Considering that the control room in the Name of the Doctor is the same as the control room that the 11th Doctor uses, then it is extremely doubtful that the Doctor would keep the same old control room during every one of his future regenerations. Ever since the Seventh Doctor, there has been a new control room for each regeneration. We can easily assume that the 12th Doctor will do some redecorating during his stint.
Since the Doctor was on his last regeneration, he was fighting a war on Trenzalore, and the Control Room from the Name of the Doctor is the same one as the one that is currently used, then the Doctor's last moment was supposed to be during the Christmas Special, but Time was changed and the Doctor no longer died on Trenzalore. The grave of the Doctor still exists somewhere in time, but it is no longer on Trenzalore.
Clara is the Impossible Girl so it is within her abilities to save the Doctor from his death on Trenzalore by convincing the Time Lords to give the Doctor at least one more regeneration. She wouldn't be the Impossible Girl if she couldn't create a completely new timeline where the Doctor's grave is no longer on Trenzalore. The main difference between the two timelines is Clara. In the previous timeline where the Doctor died, there was no need for Clara to become the Impossible Girl. If the Great Intelligence didn't try to kill the Doctor by diving into his timeline and Clara didn't dive after him, then the Doctor would have died at Trenzalore. Since Clara dived into the Doctor's timeline and became the Impossible Girl, then she saved the Doctor from dying at Trenzalore.
Besides the whole plot premise of knowing where the Doctor is going to die ruins the story. Any dangerous situation the Doctor gets into is meaningless since we know that the Doctor will not die there.
Everything in that episode points to the Doctor dying on Trenzalore at that particular time not at some future time. If not for the actions of Tasha Yem bringing Clara back and Clara convincing the Time Lords to save the Doctor, then the Doctor would have died. In the previous timeline, either Tasha Yem didn't bring Clara back or Clara couldn't convince the Time Lords to save the Doctor resulting in his death. Besides I am far more likely to listen to Tardis Data Core about anything Doctor Who related than a fan that disagrees with my viewpoint.
Considering that the control room in the Name of the Doctor is the same as the control room that the 11th Doctor uses, then it is extremely doubtful that the Doctor would keep the same old control room during every one of his future regenerations. Ever since the Seventh Doctor, there has been a new control room for each regeneration. We can easily assume that the 12th Doctor will do some redecorating during his stint.
Since the Doctor was on his last regeneration, he was fighting a war on Trenzalore, and the Control Room from the Name of the Doctor is the same one as the one that is currently used, then the Doctor's last moment was supposed to be during the Christmas Special, but Time was changed and the Doctor no longer died on Trenzalore. The grave of the Doctor still exists somewhere in time, but it is no longer on Trenzalore.
Clara is the Impossible Girl so it is within her abilities to save the Doctor from his death on Trenzalore by convincing the Time Lords to give the Doctor at least one more regeneration. She wouldn't be the Impossible Girl if she couldn't create a completely new timeline where the Doctor's grave is no longer on Trenzalore. The main difference between the two timelines is Clara. In the previous timeline where the Doctor died, there was no need for Clara to become the Impossible Girl. If the Great Intelligence didn't try to kill the Doctor by diving into his timeline and Clara didn't dive after him, then the Doctor would have died at Trenzalore. Since Clara dived into the Doctor's timeline and became the Impossible Girl, then she saved the Doctor from dying at Trenzalore.
Besides the whole plot premise of knowing where the Doctor is going to die ruins the story. Any dangerous situation the Doctor gets into is meaningless since we know that the Doctor will not die there.
Everything in that episode points to the Doctor dying on Trenzalore at that particular time not at some future time. If not for the actions of Tasha Yem bringing Clara back and Clara convincing the Time Lords to save the Doctor, then the Doctor would have died. In the previous timeline, either Tasha Yem didn't bring Clara back or Clara couldn't convince the Time Lords to save the Doctor resulting in his death. Besides I am far more likely to listen to Tardis Data Core about anything Doctor Who related than a fan that disagrees with my viewpoint.
The Doctor does not have to die on Trenzalore in order for his grave to be put there. He most likely would have the TARDIS and his timeline shipped there via last rights. And there is a good chance the Control room of the TARDIS being the 11th desktop could either be by random chance or it could simply be because for production's sake, to allow the fans to realize it is the Doctor's TARDIS.
And I'm less inclined to believe a wikia that anyone can simply edit. I go by the evidence of the show. If Gallifrey survived, does that make 9 and 10's lives an alternate timeline? That by this logic of alternate timelines, 9 should have been a different man who did not carry survivor's guilt with him? That when the Master found out Gallifrey still existed in a pocket dimension, 10 should have said "Oh yeah, I know it did. That was me. I put it in a painting, how about we go find it together?"
The events of Day showed us a different side to the story that the previous season led us to believe. So it is quite possible the same thing happens in the events of Name and Time. If the events of Name occurred in an alternate timeline, then that means the past has been altered and the paradox creatures should have descended right on top of Christmas as well. But if they didn't, it's clear that the events still and did happen. Clara and the Doctor will visit his grave on the planet of Trenzalore. Eleven did die on Trenzalore. That happened. It is how 12 came to be. That's how regeneration works. The previous incarnation dies and a new one is born.
Remember this? "...on the Fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, a question will be asked ? a question that must never ever be answered: "Doctor who?" "
"...on the Fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh," Fall of the Eleventh. Not Fall of the Time Lord, not of the Gallifreian, not Fall of [Insert True Name here]. The eleventh incarnation was losing the battle when the Dalek fleet attacked. He needed the regeneration energy to win. Eleven fell on the fields of Trenzalore. "when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, a question will be asked" When the crack was broadcasting the question, Clara answered it and she did not lie. She said "His name is the Doctor. Just The Doctor." And the final clincher is the end bit: "a question that must never ever be answered: "Doctor who?" "
And what is the answer the Doctor gives to everyone who asks that question through out the entire series? "Hello, I'm the Doctor." "Doctor who?" "My name is the Doctor. Just the Doctor."
All the events that very prophesied to happen, happened. "Silence must fall when the Question is asked" As soon as Tasha Yem found out what the broadcast meant, she converted the entire Mainframe into the Church of the Silence. She said that in order to protect the universe from the chaos that would come from the return of the Time Lords, silence must fall to the broadcast.
All these events predicted, came true. So it is entirely possible and most likely, that the Doctor's grave will be on Trenzalore. Not because the Time Lord died there, but because he CHOSE to be put there. Because he knows important events will transpire there, because he knows the planet will be empty by then and because he knows he will eventually reach it. It all comes back around.
"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"
I just assumed War's memory of the events of Day of the Doctor were blanked out, and that the whole time he just thought Gallifrey was destroyed and the whole thing was time locked. No alternate timeline, no wibbly-wobbly necessary, just a plain and simple result of the time stream doing to War what it did to Ten.
I just assumed War's memory of the events of Day of the Doctor were blanked out, and that the whole time he just thought Gallifrey was destroyed and the whole thing was time locked. No alternate timeline, no wibbly-wobbly necessary, just a plain and simple result of the time stream doing to War what it did to Ten.
I haven't seen Time of the Doctor yet though.
This is what happened. Only the 11th Doctor remembered anything about what happened.
During the regeneration, the War Doctor forgot about his memories of trying to save Gallifrey so the 9th Doctor would be subjected to guilt for destroying his planet. After all, he was about to press the button and the next moment he is in a new body. Therefore, there is only one logical conclusion he could come up with. The 9th Doctor simply forgot all the events that happened in the Day of the Doctor episode.
The Alternate Timeline comes about because the Doctor was supposed to die on Trenzalore, but was saved. There is absolutely no reason why the Doctor would have his grave moved to Trenzalore. Graves at battle sites are there to commemorate those who have fallen during that battle. Since the Doctor didn't fall at Trenzalore, then there is absolutely no reason why the Doctor's grave should be there.
So there is only one difference between the previous timeline and the current timeline that we know of. The Doctor died on Trenzalore and his Tardis was left as a grave marker to commemorate his final moments in the previous timeline while the Doctor regenerated on Trenzalore for the current timeline. After all, why would the Doctor be afraid of where his grave was if he didn't die there.
Time is a malleable substance that can be changed according to the Doctor Who series. There exists certain fixed points in time that can't be changed like an astronaut shooting something that looked like the Doctor, but the Doctor's death was never assumed to be a fixed point that can't be changed. So it is entirely possible for the Doctor to visit his own grave on one planet and his grave is moved to a completely different planet by changing the future.
The Doctor before he was about to die on Trenzalore and before Clara pleaded with the Time Lords, mentioned that "This is it. We saw the future Clara. This is how it ends. Clara asks the Doctor to Change the Future and the Doctor says "I could have once when there were Time Lords. Not anymore." This is from the episode and not from some fan talking about the episode.
So the future was changed, the Doctor was saved, and his grave for all we know is not on Trenzalore thousands of years in the future. Sure it is possible that there is another war on Trenzalore or the Doctor had his grave moved to Trenzalore, but that is pure convoluted speculation.
The easiest explanation is the Doctor died on Trenzalore where he visited his grave, but the future was changed so he no longer died on Trenzalore and his grave no longer exists on Trenzalore. Until there is an episode that actually has the Doctor die on Trenzalore, the Doctor and his companion visit his grave again on Trenzalore, or the Doctor or someone else has his grave moved to Trenzalore, then his grave is on some unknown planet where he died for unknown reasons as it should be.
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Eh, it seems that The Doctor frequently isn't able to remember encounters with his future selves, as outlined in The Day of the Doctor. I'm willing to accept that this occurred as it pertained to the 13th version.
You're thinking too linearly. Remember how Gallifrey survived the Time War? That technically should have rewritten 9's life. He should not have thought himself the Last of the Time Lords and therefore would not have connected with Rose. But we learned that War did not remember the events after they happened, so 9 assumed he deployed The Moment and destroyed Gallifrey. If you look on the previous page, I went into this in detail. Long story short: The timeline did and did not change.
To quote the Doctor: "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff."
You're viewing the events of Trenzalore as a parade. You see the floats make a left turn and assume that it will never go down the street ahead. I, however, am standing on the float. I pass you and follow the float's course to the left. But what it actually does is circle the block and go up the street anyway and turn at the intersect again again making a left. But from you point of view, the parade now goes right on a new street, not your left to the old. From my point of view, I know that the float has reached made many turns to reach the predetermined path.
The Doctor's Final resting place was prophesied as Trenzalore and Eleven would fall. And what happened? Eleven "died" on Trenzalore. That half came to pass. Which means that Trenzalore still happens.
I would also like to point out that if Trenzalore does not happen, then that means Clara could not dive into the Doctor's Timeline and save him in Asylum of the Daleks.
But she did. So the Doctor will always be buried on Trenzalore. Not now, though. But when his time does come, he will request his Tardis and body be shipped the Trenzalore. Because if it doesn't, then Clara does not become the Impossible Girl.
Wibbly Wobbly. Timey Wimey.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Only fixed points in time can't be changed. The Doctor has encountered too many points in time where it doesn't match what should have happened. The Doctor and his companions are aware of the change to history, but everyone else is not. Time is malleable so what happens in one episode doesn't happen in another episode. The Doctor remembers going to his grave on Trenzalore and Clara being split up into millions of copies, but his grave no longer exists on Trenzalore. After all, the Great Intelligence tried to kill the Doctor in every possible point of his existence and obviously that is impossible without some Temporal Paradox occurring. Since we don't see the Great Intelligence or Clara in the previous seasons, then it further proves that time is malleable.
In one timeline, the Doctor fought on Trenzalore with no regenerations and no chance of survival and dies on Trenazlore. The new timeline, the Doctor fought on Trenzalore with no regenerations and no chance of survival, but he is given at least one more regeneration and doesn't die on Trenzalore. The crack in the wall disappears resulting in no one interested in Trenzalore. So obviously we saw the point where the Doctor should have died. He was fighting for centuries on Trenzalore, tons of people died fighting that war, and he was going to die if not for someone giving him a regeneration. Since the crack in the wall faded, all the Daleks were destroyed, and the signal no longer exists, then there is no point for another war to start on Trenzalore since it seemed like a planet that lost its significance. The Doctor might visit Trenzalore again, but thousands or millions of years later, there won't be a Time Lord walking on Trenzalore to visit his grave.
Clara wouldn't be the Impossible Girl if she couldn't withstand a simple Paradox. So she would have millions of copies out there even though the timeline that made her the Impossible Girl doesn't exist anymore.
We've seen what happens when a paradox occurs in the events of Fathers Day. This is not a paradox. This is the natural flow of the Doctor's timeline. There is no new timeline. It's the same timeline from different points of view. The Doctor's grave will be on Trenzalore, but it may be thousands of years after the town has been evacuated for them to visit. The timeline remains the same, but we are seeing the events fold out from a different point of view.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
Considering that the control room in the Name of the Doctor is the same as the control room that the 11th Doctor uses, then it is extremely doubtful that the Doctor would keep the same old control room during every one of his future regenerations. Ever since the Seventh Doctor, there has been a new control room for each regeneration. We can easily assume that the 12th Doctor will do some redecorating during his stint.
Since the Doctor was on his last regeneration, he was fighting a war on Trenzalore, and the Control Room from the Name of the Doctor is the same one as the one that is currently used, then the Doctor's last moment was supposed to be during the Christmas Special, but Time was changed and the Doctor no longer died on Trenzalore. The grave of the Doctor still exists somewhere in time, but it is no longer on Trenzalore.
Clara is the Impossible Girl so it is within her abilities to save the Doctor from his death on Trenzalore by convincing the Time Lords to give the Doctor at least one more regeneration. She wouldn't be the Impossible Girl if she couldn't create a completely new timeline where the Doctor's grave is no longer on Trenzalore. The main difference between the two timelines is Clara. In the previous timeline where the Doctor died, there was no need for Clara to become the Impossible Girl. If the Great Intelligence didn't try to kill the Doctor by diving into his timeline and Clara didn't dive after him, then the Doctor would have died at Trenzalore. Since Clara dived into the Doctor's timeline and became the Impossible Girl, then she saved the Doctor from dying at Trenzalore.
Besides the whole plot premise of knowing where the Doctor is going to die ruins the story. Any dangerous situation the Doctor gets into is meaningless since we know that the Doctor will not die there.
Everything in that episode points to the Doctor dying on Trenzalore at that particular time not at some future time. If not for the actions of Tasha Yem bringing Clara back and Clara convincing the Time Lords to save the Doctor, then the Doctor would have died. In the previous timeline, either Tasha Yem didn't bring Clara back or Clara couldn't convince the Time Lords to save the Doctor resulting in his death. Besides I am far more likely to listen to Tardis Data Core about anything Doctor Who related than a fan that disagrees with my viewpoint.
The Doctor does not have to die on Trenzalore in order for his grave to be put there. He most likely would have the TARDIS and his timeline shipped there via last rights. And there is a good chance the Control room of the TARDIS being the 11th desktop could either be by random chance or it could simply be because for production's sake, to allow the fans to realize it is the Doctor's TARDIS.
And I'm less inclined to believe a wikia that anyone can simply edit. I go by the evidence of the show. If Gallifrey survived, does that make 9 and 10's lives an alternate timeline? That by this logic of alternate timelines, 9 should have been a different man who did not carry survivor's guilt with him? That when the Master found out Gallifrey still existed in a pocket dimension, 10 should have said "Oh yeah, I know it did. That was me. I put it in a painting, how about we go find it together?"
The events of Day showed us a different side to the story that the previous season led us to believe. So it is quite possible the same thing happens in the events of Name and Time. If the events of Name occurred in an alternate timeline, then that means the past has been altered and the paradox creatures should have descended right on top of Christmas as well. But if they didn't, it's clear that the events still and did happen. Clara and the Doctor will visit his grave on the planet of Trenzalore. Eleven did die on Trenzalore. That happened. It is how 12 came to be. That's how regeneration works. The previous incarnation dies and a new one is born.
Remember this? "...on the Fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, a question will be asked ? a question that must never ever be answered: "Doctor who?" "
"...on the Fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh," Fall of the Eleventh. Not Fall of the Time Lord, not of the Gallifreian, not Fall of [Insert True Name here]. The eleventh incarnation was losing the battle when the Dalek fleet attacked. He needed the regeneration energy to win. Eleven fell on the fields of Trenzalore. "when no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer, a question will be asked" When the crack was broadcasting the question, Clara answered it and she did not lie. She said "His name is the Doctor. Just The Doctor." And the final clincher is the end bit: "a question that must never ever be answered: "Doctor who?" "
And what is the answer the Doctor gives to everyone who asks that question through out the entire series? "Hello, I'm the Doctor." "Doctor who?" "My name is the Doctor. Just the Doctor."
All the events that very prophesied to happen, happened. "Silence must fall when the Question is asked" As soon as Tasha Yem found out what the broadcast meant, she converted the entire Mainframe into the Church of the Silence. She said that in order to protect the universe from the chaos that would come from the return of the Time Lords, silence must fall to the broadcast.
All these events predicted, came true. So it is entirely possible and most likely, that the Doctor's grave will be on Trenzalore. Not because the Time Lord died there, but because he CHOSE to be put there. Because he knows important events will transpire there, because he knows the planet will be empty by then and because he knows he will eventually reach it. It all comes back around.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
I haven't seen Time of the Doctor yet though.
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This is what happened. Only the 11th Doctor remembered anything about what happened.
During the regeneration, the War Doctor forgot about his memories of trying to save Gallifrey so the 9th Doctor would be subjected to guilt for destroying his planet. After all, he was about to press the button and the next moment he is in a new body. Therefore, there is only one logical conclusion he could come up with. The 9th Doctor simply forgot all the events that happened in the Day of the Doctor episode.
The Alternate Timeline comes about because the Doctor was supposed to die on Trenzalore, but was saved. There is absolutely no reason why the Doctor would have his grave moved to Trenzalore. Graves at battle sites are there to commemorate those who have fallen during that battle. Since the Doctor didn't fall at Trenzalore, then there is absolutely no reason why the Doctor's grave should be there.
So there is only one difference between the previous timeline and the current timeline that we know of. The Doctor died on Trenzalore and his Tardis was left as a grave marker to commemorate his final moments in the previous timeline while the Doctor regenerated on Trenzalore for the current timeline. After all, why would the Doctor be afraid of where his grave was if he didn't die there.
Time is a malleable substance that can be changed according to the Doctor Who series. There exists certain fixed points in time that can't be changed like an astronaut shooting something that looked like the Doctor, but the Doctor's death was never assumed to be a fixed point that can't be changed. So it is entirely possible for the Doctor to visit his own grave on one planet and his grave is moved to a completely different planet by changing the future.
The Doctor before he was about to die on Trenzalore and before Clara pleaded with the Time Lords, mentioned that "This is it. We saw the future Clara. This is how it ends. Clara asks the Doctor to Change the Future and the Doctor says "I could have once when there were Time Lords. Not anymore." This is from the episode and not from some fan talking about the episode.
So the future was changed, the Doctor was saved, and his grave for all we know is not on Trenzalore thousands of years in the future. Sure it is possible that there is another war on Trenzalore or the Doctor had his grave moved to Trenzalore, but that is pure convoluted speculation.
The easiest explanation is the Doctor died on Trenzalore where he visited his grave, but the future was changed so he no longer died on Trenzalore and his grave no longer exists on Trenzalore. Until there is an episode that actually has the Doctor die on Trenzalore, the Doctor and his companion visit his grave again on Trenzalore, or the Doctor or someone else has his grave moved to Trenzalore, then his grave is on some unknown planet where he died for unknown reasons as it should be.
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