Of course it is, Orion society is a matriarchy, with the male Orions as man-slaves to the females of the species. :P
A real matriarchy is not something that has the women dressed as sex objects and the men as horrid-looking brutes.
That's a patriarchal vision -- heterosexual male fantasy.
I'm not going to say people can't enjoy this vision. Let them. But, instead of making it extremely narrow there should be examples of Orion males who are hot and Orion women who wear clothes. Every group has divergence.
A real matriarchy is not something that has the women dressed as sex objects and the men as horrid-looking brutes.
That's a patriarchal vision -- heterosexual male fantasy.
What exactly about it excludes it from being a matriarchal society? And what about it makes you think it's a 'patriarchal vision'? Why does looking like a 'heterosexual male fantasy' matter?
I'm not going to say people can't enjoy this vision. Let them. But, instead of making it extremely narrow there should be examples of Orion males who are hot and Orion women who wear clothes. Every group has divergence.
Who says they should want to 'wear clothes'? Why would they be restricted to want their men to dress half-naked?
I will agree that skimpy Orion clothing doesn't seem practical
Practical? It covers the necessary bits for Western social mores. In terms of combat in STO it's your personal shield that matters. The typical cloth uniform of a Starfleet member won't do a thing to stop an energy or a bladed weapon. Strictly speaking you could be completely naked and it wouldn't matter as long as you've got the shield emitter on.
On topic I'd love to see an Orion costume pack though it should be open to all KDF players. And yes I'm biased because I wish my alien character could wear Orion style clothing. :P
Practical? It covers the necessary bits for Western social mores. In terms of combat in STO it's your personal shield that matters. The typical cloth uniform of a Starfleet member won't do a thing to stop an energy or a bladed weapon. Strictly speaking you could be completely naked and it wouldn't matter as long as you've got the shield emitter on.
But it lacks any pockets! Where do they keep their STUFF?
And I'm telling you, what we need is TRADITIONAL CLOTHING OPTIONS FOR FERRENGI FEMALES.
But it lacks any pockets! Where do they keep their STUFF?
Yeah, I took a swing at that one in "Bait and Switch" with an Orion petty officer with Starfleet Intelligence who complains that there's nowhere to put a concealed weapon in traditional Orion garb.
Of course, every Starfleet uniform except ENT has the same problem (no pockets), so there you go.
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Yeah, I took a swing at that one in "Bait and Switch" with an Orion petty officer with Starfleet Intelligence who complains that there's nowhere to put a concealed weapon in traditional Orion garb.
I wouldn't say "nowhere".........huehuehuehuehuehue........
Yeah, I took a swing at that one in "Bait and Switch" with an Orion petty officer with Starfleet Intelligence who complains that there's nowhere to put a concealed weapon in traditional Orion garb.
Of course, every Starfleet uniform except ENT has the same problem (no pockets), so there you go.
JMS commented about that on the "Babylon 5" DVDs.
So he explicitly wanted the EA unforms on the shows to have pockets and zippers so the uniforms feel more "real" and more like uniforms than costumes.
The costume designers for probably Enterprise thought the same.
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That's a patriarchal vision -- heterosexual male fantasy.
I'm not going to say people can't enjoy this vision. Let them. But, instead of making it extremely narrow there should be examples of Orion males who are hot and Orion women who wear clothes. Every group has divergence.
Who says they should want to 'wear clothes'? Why would they be restricted to want their men to dress half-naked?
I'm trying to understand your perspective here.
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Practical? It covers the necessary bits for Western social mores. In terms of combat in STO it's your personal shield that matters. The typical cloth uniform of a Starfleet member won't do a thing to stop an energy or a bladed weapon. Strictly speaking you could be completely naked and it wouldn't matter as long as you've got the shield emitter on.
On topic I'd love to see an Orion costume pack though it should be open to all KDF players. And yes I'm biased because I wish my alien character could wear Orion style clothing. :P
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And I'm telling you, what we need is TRADITIONAL CLOTHING OPTIONS FOR FERRENGI FEMALES.
Only if Ferengi captains can enforce it on all the rest of the female crew. :P
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Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Alas the ESRB would never allow it. :P
Of course one could always use the work-around method!
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And a Disclaimer here, just in case someone does not get it, they are wearing black bikini's with "censored" printed on them. :P
Yeah, I took a swing at that one in "Bait and Switch" with an Orion petty officer with Starfleet Intelligence who complains that there's nowhere to put a concealed weapon in traditional Orion garb.
Of course, every Starfleet uniform except ENT has the same problem (no pockets), so there you go.
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I wouldn't say "nowhere".........huehuehuehuehuehue........
Mabye Orion weapons come with a vibrate setting.
JMS commented about that on the "Babylon 5" DVDs.
So he explicitly wanted the EA unforms on the shows to have pockets and zippers so the uniforms feel more "real" and more like uniforms than costumes.
The costume designers for probably Enterprise thought the same.
Also Harrad-Sar's costume wouldn't be bad either for Orion males.