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Ar'kif Carrier is AWESOME!

djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Romulan Discussion
So I realize I may be late to the party. Fine. I also realize when this ship first came out, there was a lot of talk about the flat sales and how it was a terrible addition with no real purpose that couldn't be done with other ships. Fine.

Yet I just wanted to share that I recently bought the Ar'kif retrofit. I am LOVING the ship. Better, more survivable Boff layout than my Dhelan, MUCH more useful console, same great console layout, and hanger to boot! And a fleet version is coming with the Tier 3 Spire!

Please tell me I'm not the only one who is HAPPY with this purchase! :cool:
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  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I don't have it, but I have to say it's a really nice looking Cryptic design.

    Glad to hear that it flies well too. If I ever return to the Romulan faction I would probably buy it.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Heck I have had it for a little while now and my reman loves it, while the fleet version doesn't really offer much more hull or anything great the one extra tac slot will be useful if you make use of the ar'kif ship console. To me one of the best escort ships and a hangar doesn't hurt either. :D

    EDIT: My only wish would be if I could trade that ens eng slot with the lt. sci, than I would be uber pleased. But otherwise I have not been unhappy with it at all.
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  • berytakberytak Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I love my Ar'kif!

    It suits my playstyle perfectly. It turns not to fast like most of the escorts and it's not so squishy like them.
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I really like mine too. I got the set with the dilithium from the CE event (and a few other things). It's perfect for a fresh 50 character with cheap gear. All buffed up, with green gear, the plasma beam thing can take out a shield facing on a citadel ship. It also has a comparable boff layout to the fleet Ha'feh but will only be 1 module. You are, however, kinda stuck using the universal station for engineering, but having a Lt Commander engineering station is what I like about it.

    Only two things bug me about it currently:

    1) the plasma beam can sometimes prematurely shut off, even when nothing moves or gets activated.

    2) last patch re-rebroke shield drones again so my drones are not healing like they should (yes the redundancy is intended lol).

    Other than that I love the ship. I keep trying the Mogai and the Scimitar but I keep going back to the Ar'Kif :)
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    God I want one for my tac romulan. Just haven't the money or the time to grind out 2500CC.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I have flown the T4 version quite a bit. To me it suffers from the same depth-of-field problem as some of the other big romulan ships.
  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    talonxv wrote: »
    God I want one for my tac romulan. Just haven't the money or the time to grind out 2500CC.

    Christmas is coming up, my friend. :cool:
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  • theonetruetomtheonetruetom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I own the Ar'kif retro (and the Ar'Kala) and I have to say, it's an amazing ship. The 2-piece set isn't as impressive as other set bonuses, but quad plasma cannons are an awesome addition to any plasma build. The sound they make is incredible. Plus, they work on any Warbird, including the Scimitar. The focused plasma beam reminds me heavily of the Aventine's universal console, and is currently slightly bugged. The "activates on torpedo attacks" isn't entirely true, as it mainly deactivates randomly when torpedoes fire.
  • jjumetleyjjumetley Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It's one of the better looking Cryptic ships. Bought it because of the sale but it will be some time before I get bored with my current vessel which is the Mogai.

    I guess Ar'kif is a bit like a said Mogai only even a bit more tac leaned.
  • oracion666oracion666 Member Posts: 338 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I love mine. She is an amazing ship. Can't wait for our fleet to hit T3 Spire so I can pick up the fleet version
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  • alopenalopen Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yeah I dug up the dil from the CE event a month ago from all my characters and made some ship purchases during the sale. First, I like the ship. That being said, I should put out a necessary disclaimer.

    While I really like the hangar, console, and boff layout, I have been frustrated by the two piece bonus. Honestly quad cannons blow chunks but the 10% plasma bonus from the two piece actually gives a better bonus to the dmge of the rest of my plasma weapons then a plasma tac console does (750 dmg vs. 834 dmge on fleet plasma dhcs). Additonally, the +30 to energy weapon critc skill is nice, being a tier 5 admiral skill to train. Combined, this compels me to keep using them even though I hate them. Dmgx4 is not worth -10 engine power, EVER. Especially not on a Romulan. Its not even heavy cannons.

    The Singularity beam is nice. As pointed out already, it does cutout from alot of things like tholians, explosions, bad aim, some buffs (sill trying to figure out which ones), etc. However, its greatly boosted by plasma consoles so unless you spec plasma on the build the consoles should be offloaded. It's still a grat ship despite that though. This might be one of the Romulan ships where your better off skipping the console synergy and just getting the tier 5 retro version or just the fleet version.
  • kelshandokelshando Member Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    If your running all plasma damage the 2 set is great. I'm running mine with:

    Fleet DHC x3 Plasma
    Quad Cannon
    Plasma Turret x2
    Cutting beam... (for that Kinetic damage)

    4x Plasma Infusers mk x (will be upgrading to spire crit console when we hit tier 3)
    Plasmonic Leech
    Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator
    Singularity Inverter
    Singularity Stabilizer
    Focused Singularity Modulator

    Omega Engine
    Omega Deflector
    Elite Fleet resilient (Res B) Shields
    Elite Fleet Singularity Core +shield, +engine, quantum absorption 3% damage per sub system above 75

    Yellow Stones runabouts or Elite Scorps depending on the fight.

    The whole idea behind what I did was keeping singularity power maxed all the time and being able to use singularity power and instantly start recharging them back up with in a few seconds. That way keep your power up as high as you can all the time. Also allows for use of powers back to back if the need is there.

    The adaptive fleet shields + frequency generator for some survivability.

    Over all the ship is much better then the federation HEC for sure.. having the universal lt cmd gives so many more options, be it a rift/grav well sci set up or a epw / directed energy modulation eng set up. Then being Romulans with our super boffs.. 5x superior Romulan operatives for all that extra + crit.

    Once I get the fleet version it will be even better... 5x crit conosles for the win..
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    kelshando wrote: »
    If your running all plasma damage the 2 set is great. I'm running mine with:

    Fleet DHC x3 Plasma
    Quad Cannon
    Plasma Turret x2
    Cutting beam... (for that Kinetic damage)

    4x Plasma Infusers mk x (will be upgrading to spire crit console when we hit tier 3)
    Plasmonic Leech
    Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator
    Singularity Inverter
    Singularity Stabilizer
    Focused Singularity Modulator

    Omega Engine
    Omega Deflector
    Elite Fleet resilient (Res B) Shields
    Elite Fleet Singularity Core +shield, +engine, quantum absorption 3% damage per sub system above 75

    Yellow Stones runabouts or Elite Scorps depending on the fight.

    The whole idea behind what I did was keeping singularity power maxed all the time and being able to use singularity power and instantly start recharging them back up with in a few seconds. That way keep your power up as high as you can all the time. Also allows for use of powers back to back if the need is there.

    The adaptive fleet shields + frequency generator for some survivability.

    Over all the ship is much better then the federation HEC for sure.. having the universal lt cmd gives so many more options, be it a rift/grav well sci set up or a epw / directed energy modulation eng set up. Then being Romulans with our super boffs.. 5x superior Romulan operatives for all that extra + crit.

    Once I get the fleet version it will be even better... 5x crit conosles for the win..

    Looks great but, for me I prefer the rom plasma along with a different deflector and engine choice but, that's just my preference. ;)
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  • shinzonisbackshinzonisback Member Posts: 330
    edited December 2013
    Well, I'm happy that you like this ship, but I prefer the Ha'Feh:

    the Ar'Kif Boff layout is ... wrong:

    Lt.Cmd Univ: great, perfect for an engineer.
    Lt1 Sci: yeah, that's the way I like it.
    Cmd Tac + Lt Tac = 6 tac skill slot, wonderful, i need only another one :D
    Ens Eng ... NO, S**T !!

    That Ens slot ruined this Boff layout.
    It should have to be TAC, not ENG.

    the perfect tactical (non A2B) build is:

    TT x1
    CRF / CSV x2
    THY / TS x2
    APB / APO x2

    so it requires at least 7 tac skill slot.

    but the Ar'kif only have 6 tac skill slot.

    You can't even use the A2B, it wouldn't have sense on this ship.

    Thats why i don't like this ship.
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well, I'm happy that you like this ship, but I prefer the Ha'Feh:

    the Ar'Kif Boff layout is ... wrong:

    Lt.Cmd Univ: great, perfect for an engineer.
    Lt1 Sci: yeah, that's the way I like it.
    Cmd Tac + Lt Tac = 6 tac skill slot, wonderful, i need only another one :D
    Ens Eng ... NO, S**T !!

    That Ens slot ruined this Boff layout.
    It should have to be TAC, not ENG.

    the perfect tactical (non A2B) build is:

    TT x1
    CRF / CSV x2
    THY / TS x2
    APB / APO x2

    so it requires at least 7 tac skill slot.

    but the Ar'kif only have 6 tac skill slot.

    You can't even use the A2B, it wouldn't have sense on this ship.

    Thats why i don't like this ship.

    Not every ship can have the desired boff slots you so desire, as for some other's they like the setup it has.
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  • kelshandokelshando Member Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Looks great but, for me I prefer the rom plasma along with a different deflector and engine choice but, that's just my preference. ;)

    Well I use the omega for the Tetryon Glide. I have max flow capacitors due to the leech.. so it's getting the most of out that with leech + 2 set omega.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yup, I love my Ar'kif. Just like my Armitage, but better :)
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  • intrepid74656intrepid74656 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Heck I have had it for a little while now and my reman loves it, while the fleet version doesn't really offer much more hull or anything great the one extra tac slot will be useful if you make use of the ar'kif ship console. To me one of the best escort ships and a hangar doesn't hurt either. :D

    EDIT: My only wish would be if I could trade that ens eng slot with the lt. sci, than I would be uber pleased. But otherwise I have not been unhappy with it at all.

    This is why I am reluctant to give up my Fleet Dhelan.. At least it can run HE1, TSS2, HE3 or any combination of those. Further the fleet version really could use an universal ensign instead of the fixed engy.
    If the prices drop during Xmas, might be worth to try it though.

    Also do you run beams or cannons?
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  • sjokruhlicasjokruhlica Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It's the Rommy version of the Armitage. It's a good ship. Now if can just get an HEC for the KDF, the original carrier faction....
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    This is why I am reluctant to give up my Fleet Dhelan.. At least it can run HE1, TSS2, HE3 or any combination of those. Further the fleet version really could use an universal ensign instead of the fixed engy.
    If the prices drop during Xmas, might be worth to try it though.

    Also do you run beams or cannons?

    Me personally I run 3 rom dhc's and the rom exp ba for, with 2 rom turrets and the rom torpedo aft.
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  • intrepid74656intrepid74656 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Me personally I run 3 rom dhc's and the rom exp ba for, with 2 rom turrets and the rom torpedo aft.

    The only problem I have with the Rommy Exp BA is that there is no dual beam bank variant available, making it less optimal to run with D(H)C's..
    (Guess that's also the reason why there are so many Rom plasma BFAW boats out there.)
    The 2 piece set bonus is a must and I can live with the torpedo fore but I'm not willing to give up a precious console slot for the zero point and slotting the Rom Exp BA aft makes it dead. So does slotting the torp aft, correct me if I'm wrong.

    Ideally I would setup something like this:
    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=dreamarkiflayout_0

    Ps: I know it's not the Ar'kif but it almost has what it takes except the looks and I refuse to fly the dreaded thing that I used as a template.

    Notes:
    - The unique beam bank would be the so badly wanted Rom Exp Dual Beam Bank.
    - The unique tac consoles are the new spire ones.
    - I could live without the 5th forward weapon if this was possible with the Ar'kif
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  • terlokiterloki Member Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Got the Ar'Kala a while back and the Ar'Kif just the other day, so I'm running it with the two piece set bonus. So far I've kitted the ship out on my Tac (the Ha'Feh is a beast, but I'm not a fan of its look) and I love it. It's like the Armitage and the tactical Vesta had a baby, and for some reason that baby was Romulan. The Annihilation Mode really helps even if you don't use that focused plasma beam thanks to the +50% singularity generation, and the fact that you only lose one console slot to get the two piece set bonus isn't too shabby either. This ship has just the right blend of HP, firepower, and flexibility thanks to that hangar, and a cloaking escort carrier? Yes please!
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  • sinusiridumsinusiridum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Ar'kif sure looks amazing to me, and I'm thinking in getting the fleet version, eventually, and I'm thinking on this setup (still a bit far to the tier 3 Spire, but it gives me time to grind some of the items I'm missing):

    http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=arkiller_0

    What do you guys think?
    I have some doubts about the universal boff, maybe change to a sci boff for even better offensive? I also went for the bboat approach as that lets me skip torpedo skills and focus on other stuff in the skill tree.
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  • kelshandokelshando Member Posts: 887 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Ar'kif sure looks amazing to me, and I'm thinking in getting the fleet version, eventually, and I'm thinking on this setup (still a bit far to the tier 3 Spire, but it gives me time to grind some of the items I'm missing):

    http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=arkiller_0

    What do you guys think?
    I have some doubts about the universal boff, maybe change to a sci boff for even better offensive? I also went for the bboat approach as that lets me skip torpedo skills and focus on other stuff in the skill tree.

    I would really look at getting the Z Store ship as well as the Quad cannon.. If you want to go plasma. The 50% sing. gain +10% plasma damage is a good set up. The beam is good for boss fights. The 2 set plus valdor console and leech just puts this ship over the top.

    If your not planning on taking advantage of the 2 set or running non-plasma then the fleet will do fine.
  • akodawindstriderakodawindstrider Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I just got mine and although i wish that my scorps would live a bit longer, the amount of firepower on this thing is absolutely amaising. even though i didn't get the quad cannons that i was promised.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I just got mine and although i wish that my scorps would live a bit longer, the amount of firepower on this thing is absolutely amaising. even though i didn't get the quad cannons that i was promised.
    The quad cannons come on the Ar'kala warbird that's available at level 40, not on the Ar'kif. If you want them on your Ar'kif carrier, you have to drop the 1500 Z for the lower level ship.
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  • cruisin1500cruisin1500 Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hi, I've just returned from a 2 year or so break. I really like this ship after seeing it in action.

    Can anyone help me out with a build for a sci character, traits/ space kills and everything.

    I want to do PVE mostly, specified against the Voth.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Ar'kif sure looks amazing to me, and I'm thinking in getting the fleet version, eventually, and I'm thinking on this setup (still a bit far to the tier 3 Spire, but it gives me time to grind some of the items I'm missing):

    http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=arkiller_0

    What do you guys think?
    I have some doubts about the universal boff, maybe change to a sci boff for even better offensive? I also went for the bboat approach as that lets me skip torpedo skills and focus on other stuff in the skill tree.

    Lose the subsystem targeting, and go for apb. Either double up on bfaw or apb would be better suited, but subsystem attacks are great for when a single enemy is your intended target. Just remember bfaw and subsystem attacks share a cd because both are considered beam attacks.
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The only problem I have with the Rommy Exp BA is that there is no dual beam bank variant available, making it less optimal to run with D(H)C's..
    (Guess that's also the reason why there are so many Rom plasma BFAW boats out there.)
    The 2 piece set bonus is a must and I can live with the torpedo fore but I'm not willing to give up a precious console slot for the zero point and slotting the Rom Exp BA aft makes it dead. So does slotting the torp aft, correct me if I'm wrong.

    Ideally I would setup something like this:
    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=dreamarkiflayout_0

    Ps: I know it's not the Ar'kif but it almost has what it takes except the looks and I refuse to fly the dreaded thing that I used as a template.

    Notes:
    - The unique beam bank would be the so badly wanted Rom Exp Dual Beam Bank.
    - The unique tac consoles are the new spire ones.
    - I could live without the 5th forward weapon if this was possible with the Ar'kif

    Well my reasoning behind this is simple, the exp beam uses no power and yields better dmg and dps than a turret. The torpedo aft is to aid the turrets when making strafing runs, and to cut down on running into my own slow moving plasma torpedoes when they are shot down by enemies, now I just fly by and TRIBBLE them out on enemies. The 3pc set bonus is great even with its 2min cd it deals a high dmg beam attack that not only mimics the dmg potential of a BO1-2 attack, but also sets the enemy ablaze for a short bit dealing nice plasma dmg over time and lowering their dmg resistance as good as an APB3 would give or better for a good duration of time.
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  • akodawindstriderakodawindstrider Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The quad cannons come on the Ar'kala warbird that's available at level 40, not on the Ar'kif. If you want them on your Ar'kif carrier, you have to drop the 1500 Z for the lower level ship.

    Well that my friend is bull TRIBBLE and i will skip that step
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