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  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Well, all we really know about the war is that the Federation is slowly losing ground to the Klingons. We don't know how long it would take the Klingons to win their war against the Federation. All we really know is that when contact with the Dominion was made it was disastrous, and the Dominion had no meaningful resistance.
    Actually, we do know more than that. For instance, Franklin Drake talks about the Federation falling to the Klingons (he actually mentions it in the context of where he was born), and then mentions the Dominion invading as something that happened later (and he does indicate that meaningful resistance occurred. It just wasn't enough). Granted, T'Nae indicates that the Federation was able to set up resistance groups that did have significant successes against the Klingons (but not the Dominion).
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Ferengi faction!

    You are a young, enterprising Ferengi living in a hamlet, tiring of having to see your naked Ferengi grandmothers saggy **** every day, longing for something more. To travel the stars. Sell unsuspecting people into slavery. To score the biggest sale and turn the biggest profit anyone has ever seen! And also costumes for your female boffs could be nothing.

    Make it so!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lordinsane wrote: »
    Actually, we do know more than that. For instance, Franklin Drake talks about the Federation falling to the Klingons (he actually mentions it in the context of where he was born), and then mentions the Dominion invading as something that happened later (and he does indicate that meaningful resistance occurred. It just wasn't enough). Granted, T'Nae indicates that the Federation was able to set up resistance groups that did have significant successes against the Klingons (but not the Dominion).
    Hmm... maybe in this universe the KDF created the virus?
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  • huntingdon1701huntingdon1701 Member Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Cardassians or Dominion seem most attractive, but others have raised good challenges to expanding them. Perhaps we'd see something from the Delta Quadrant now that we're there - the Vidiians perhaps? I doubt it'd be the Kazon.
  • sakaratchsakaratch Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
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  • xsupersnailxxsupersnailx Member Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hortas definitely please Hortas yes yes yes
  • xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Maybe the Dominion was now embroiled in a war with the Tholians?

    As far as I remember, it is stated in the mission, that the Tholians are allies of the Dominion.
    They were given that particular region of space (the Tau Dewa Sector block, or at least the Azure sector) after the Dominion rofl-stomped the Klingon Empire (the only great Empire left, since the Romulans and the Federation fell to the Klingons beforehand).

    Shon mentions a "Quo'Nos blast zone". I think that pretty much speaks for itself...

    Also, we know very well how the war between the Klingons and the Federation in that timeline went.
    If the Enterprise-C weren't sent back to it's time to fight the Romulans, the Federation would have lost within six months.
    Picard: The war is going very badly for the Federation, far worse than is generally known. Starfleet Command believes that defeat is inevitable. Within six months, we may have no choice but to surrender.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    As far as I remember, it is stated in the mission, that the Tholians are allies of the Dominion.
    They were given that particular region of space (the Tau Dewa Sector block, or at least the Azure sector) after the Dominion rofl-stomped the Klingon Empire (the only great Empire left, since the Romulans and the Federation fell to the Klingons beforehand).

    Shon mentions a "Quo'Nos blast zone". I think that pretty much speaks for itself...

    Also, we know very well how the war between the Klingons and the Federation in that timeline went.
    If the Enterprise-C weren't sent back to it's time to fight the Romulans, the Federation would have lost within six months.
    Heh, we can't take the 6 months thing too seriously. Picard didn't know the future. He was just repeating Starfleet Command's guesswork.
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  • xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Heh, we can't take the 6 months thing too seriously. Picard didn't know the future. He was just repeating Starfleet Command's guesswork.

    If the High Command says "in six months we are done for", then you are probably done in the scope of the next six to, say, twelve months.

    It would be a stretch to suggests the Federation stood its ground any longer against the Klingon invasion.

    How the Klingons managed to conquer both the Romulan Empire and the Federation in two decades is beyond me, though.
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  • andrewinfloridaandrewinflorida Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    A malfunctioning Iconian gate brings the Federation in contact with an multidimensional alliance of Magog and Taelon. The Feds form a faction with the Systems Commonwealth and 21st century Earth to counteract the invasion of the alliance.

    A malfunctioning Iconian gate brings the Borg in contact with the Reapers. After comparing chip sizes, the two ally to conquer the quadrants. The Feds team up with the citidal races to counteract the invasion.

    A malfunctioning Iconian gate brings the Feds in contact with the Shadows and Vorlon races who decide to conquer the quadrants to prevent any cross dimensional contact between the younger races. The Feds bypass the effort and form a faction with the younger races to challenge the Shadow/Vorlon alliance.

    Seriously, no new factions. Develop what you got and add more content.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    If the High Command says "in six months we are done for", then you are probably done in the scope of the next six to, say, twelve months.

    It would be a stretch to suggests the Federation stood its ground any longer against the Klingon invasion.

    How the Klingons managed to conquer both the Romulan Empire and the Federation in two decades is beyond me, though.
    Well, you never know.... perhaps in that universe the Bajorans and the Cardassians HELPED the Federation fight the Klingons? There's innumerable plot twists that you could throw in there. :P Besides, it's one of those ripple effect things. If the Klingons become more aggressive and expansionistic, what will their OTHER neighbors thing of this?
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  • oaklandleninoaklandlenin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    #2 Have you fought a changeling in a mission? Have you seen what it does, I sincerely doubt that it would be possible from players view.

    As for Vorta it is a matter of fluff/lore. If you make them a playable race than there will be Vorta Duty/Bridge officers and can you imagine Vorta taking orders from a Jem'Hadar?

    #2 Yes i have... what i've seen from it is not very impressive, as it's seems like magic to u. do u think if they made a playable founder, it will have 4-9k hp? theres is alot of KDF/Fed bosses that u can fight that have about 4-9k or more hp while most KDF/Fed captian players don't even have 600 hp. if they do make a playable founder there are ways to balance it without losing the founders uniqueness as i said b4.

    There's already alot of Vota Doff out there... still arguing about the Vorta still should not be playable? ask Cryptic to take out the Ferengi as a playable race, since they technically don't fight as well as a species. if ppl gonna be concerned about Founders and Vorta Boff's, easy answer... make no boff's of them at all. as for Vorta Doff's for the Dominion i see it as no problem at all, since the Vorta could be in Doff's terms use for Science, Civilian (Diplomats), Engineering, etc. while the Jem'hadar Doff's can be used for Tactical, Security, Operations, etc and the rest of the Doff's parts for other Dominion member races.
  • mgcheethammgcheetham Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    linyive wrote: »
    Creating a fourth playable faction would thin out and fracture the players. Many players are already burning out from grinding a handful of avatars; therefore, adding a fourth faction would not guarantee any success. Cryptic has continuously mentioned that the KDF side is barely being touched. Even though the KDF has been slightly adjusted, the faction is still not winning over enough players. It would be a tremendous risk on Cryptic's part.

    I originally owned: (3) Federation avatars, (1) KDF avatar, and (1) Romulan avatar. After I realized the endgame and after-faction missions were all the same, I ended up deleting my KDF and Romulan avatars. Players can only repeat the same missions, stfs, and holdings for so long, and then the exercise becomes completely meaningless.

    Its already starting to become meaningless for many players.

    Cryptic should just expand and fix the current factions.

    Yeh I completely agree, I don't see the point in starting another faction, that is my view. However as I read somewhere else today on a post, they are a business and they are there to make dollar, get new players that haven't played STO to start playing, and as it's free get them to spend money in game.

    Which is for me a double edged sword, whilst I love the new content, I can't help feeling frustrated that the core of the game needs a revamp and especially the endgame grind. The new Dyson rep is much improved but I think a bit more story line needs to be implemented like the episodes that you would work through up to lvl 50. Or just something completely new and fresh.

    I remember starting the game and being instantly hooked by the fed story and then the progression and levelling up, gaining better gear etc, by the end of 50 the dreaded rep kicks in and it gets very repetitive.

    There's too much peace in the galaxy, what I'd love to see is another war kick off between kdf and feds, revamp the game, add loads of new story to it and bring in the cards, god knows they love a good bit of demolition. Then the ferengi can earn some latinum too! Or maybe I'm still living in BOTF domination land.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hmm... I was thinking and thought of yet another reason to have the Dominion, Trilithium enhanced torpedoes! Just remember not to fire them at stars and you're fine. :P
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  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hmm... I was thinking and thought of yet another reason to have the Dominion, Trilithium enhanced torpedoes! Just remember not to fire them at stars and you're fine. :P
    I'll be the first to admit that I've put more thought into how a Dominion faction could be implemented than I should have, considering a) a Cardassian faction seems more popular amongst the general forum-going public (even if some of them seem to merge in the Dominion into it, which I find... questionable at best), b) one thing I haven't thought at all about is that annoying three-ship issue and how to solve it.
    mgcheetham wrote: »
    There's too much peace in the galaxy, what I'd love to see is another war kick off between kdf and feds, revamp the game, add loads of new story to it and bring in the cards, god knows they love a good bit of demolition. Then the ferengi can earn some latinum too! Or maybe I'm still living in BOTF domination land.
    Technically speaking there's no indication there is an actual peace treaty or anything like that (of course, that's not necessarily proof of anything. Sure, you'd think it's the kind of important thing that should be mentioned, but you'd also think that about the Romulan Republic's reaction to Sela's disappearance). It just seems the Federation-Klingon War that is going on in the low levels falls by the wayside as more and more common threats crop up.
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