Whats the new torp like?

ovinspace

Whats it like to use, also HY and spread does what to it?

Before the forum police go nuts I realize I could have posted a thread in each gameplay forum.

papertoasty

if its the gravi photon you asking about, it packs a punch
on HY3 ive crit'ed almost 50k out of it

and it wrecks some havok with the CE . . .

ovinspace

50K is way more than I thought you'd get, suppose I better get the Dyson mark things to get one. Is the mini grav well effect useful?

cpc2011a

Personally I wasn't even remotely impressed by it. The rift only proc'd 3-4 times for me in a single test run through CSN, and for much shorter duration than the stated 3.3 seconds. I'll be sticking with my fleet quantums where I pull 25k-60k+ crits without using any high yield skill, just 2 or 3 rare mk 12 quantum consoles (depending on whether I feel like using cannons or dbbs)

pottsey5g

It?s really powerful as you can torpedo spread a group of ships get 3 to 5 rifts and all hitting each other for 3+k dps.

ursusmorologus

I use photons on a couple of escorts for the torp spread 3 clouds, and I will probably put this on at least one of those. I may also put it on a sci ship that used to rely on chroniton spread for AOE slow before gravwell got buffed, although it would still be pretty much irrelevant with gravwell being what it is now, at least it might be interesting with that captain's skill tree though.

cpc2011a

ursusmorologus wrote: »

I use photons on a couple of escorts for the torp spread 3 clouds, and I will probably put this on at least one of those. I may also put it on a sci ship that used to rely on chroniton spread for AOE slow before gravwell got buffed, although it would still be pretty much irrelevant with gravwell being what it is now, at least it might be interesting with that captain's skill tree though.

Ok I have to agree that it could be an interesting addition to a Sci Captain's arsenal, and I will be giving it a chance on my two Sci's before I dismiss it completely. I mean what's not to like about a nice big grav well followed by one of these popping a rift open in the middle of it? (assuming it happens to proc)

dahminus

Think of the rift as a gravity well without the gravity. Big kinetic damage, no pull associated.

So grav well +grav torp proc = massive aoe

cpc2011a

dahminus wrote: »

Think of the rift as a gravity well without the gravity. Big kinetic damage, no pull associated.

So grav well +grav torp proc = massive aoe

Sironal and Gornarea (my Fed and Kdf Sci's) are grinning an exceptionally evil grin at the thought.

mimey2

You can get stupid-high levels of crit (mostly crit chance) off of it.

2.5% crit chance everyone has as a base
6% crit chance off the torpedo itself
3% universal crit chance from the two-piece set bonus
10% photon-only crit chance from the three-piece set bonus

So that's already looking at 21.5% chance for a crit without every adding all the rest of the stuff in the game.

dechala1

I have a suspicion that this mixed with the protonic poloran weapons, a Vesta, some of those auto targeting consoles, and the proton damage set could make for some evil aoe, and against voth...

Maybe throw in some of those proton damage with exotic abilities consoles.

Chuck 1 grav well, torp spread, and faw or CSV, then just cackle.

2 days I'll be capped on rep....

valethar

As a single shot 'standard' torpedo, it's not half bad. The HYT version is slower than even the plasma torpedo is, and can be outrun by pretty much everything you shoot it at. Slow bulky ships you have a better chance of hitting, anything else will be dead from your cannon fire long before the HYT catches up to it.

It would have been nice to know what the HYT version was before dropping all of the resources on this thing. I could have just kept my Quantums and used the resources for something else that didn't suck as bad as this thing does.

I haven't tried them with scatter as opposed to HYT. Perhaps they work better with that.

emacsheadroom

The base damage for the grav-photon (when buffed by the whole set) is quite a bit higher than the wide angle quantum. It's slightly lower than a fleet photon which gets the same set bonus.

omegaphallic

So do Photon Mines, I have a purple Photon Torp, Fleet Photon Mines, and the grav photon torp, and the combo works well. So far I only have the Grav Torp and the Proton Particle Stabilizer console, but I'm tier 3 and half way to tier 4 roughly, where I'll get the Experimental Proton Weapon which will give me the full set bonus and the Dyson Field Stabilizing Warpcore which will give me Proton Barrage, which benifits from the above console, and the tier 4 rep space ability so its going to be a dozy of a tier for me.

dragnridr

I just finished my Dyson Tier 4, working on tier 5 with a Avenger class Battle cruiser. It is set up with:
Fore:
1x Experimental Protonic weapon
3x Protonic Poloran DHC
1x Grav Photon Torp
Aft:
Omni-directional AP Beam Array
2x Protonic Poloran Beam Arrays

I hit Alpha, cannon Rapid fire, torp spread and as soon as I fire, a sci vessel pops grav well 3 and Tykon's Rift 3, and I watch a mess of cubes just pop like party balloons. It's like the Grav Photon Torp was made for team play, but on solo, on my first pass, enemy's shields are down and almost half of their health is gone. (Granted, these are baddies equal to my level) I also have the Dyson warp core, deflector, and engines. Currently working on getting the Dyson shields just cause I want the set for mah ship. With the set consoles, tactical auto-targeting consoles, and the Dyson gear, ALL Protonic weapons and Torps on my ship are boosted quite a bit.

Now, most people can't play the way I do, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Each person's playstyle is different.

gerwalk0769

ovinspace wrote: »

Whats it like to use, also HY and spread does what to it?

Before the forum police go nuts I realize I could have posted a thread in each gameplay forum.

It is pretty nice. Each High Yield (HY) level makes for a larger, more damaging rift if it hits. Like Plasma torps, using HY launches a destructible torpedo. I've only used Torpedo Spread 1 but the first torpedo of each group can proc a rift.

I've been lucky to see the torpedoes proc twice on the same target within a very short time period, some a mix of HY and normals and others just two normals proccing one after the other.