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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    jeffel82 wrote: »
    I can't prove anything, but I think there's a strong possibility that doing that would cause people to complain more. :)

    It really could go either way at this point.
  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I think the devs made the right decision not to waste resources on full interiors that would only be used for a single ship and instead making all the functions accessible from the bridge.
    I own the Scimitar, lockbox ships, and bugship and don't mind them not having interior. maybe they can just use the standard interior for the warbirds I guess.

    Not saying it should never happen, but it should be really low priority compared to content and bugfixes.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Oh, KDF ships ARE getting a new update. They now come with Vendorian assassins disguised as members of your crew. :D

    (just kidding):P
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    marc8219 wrote: »
    I think the devs made the right decision not to waste resources on full interiors that would only be used for a single ship and instead making all the functions accessible from the bridge.
    I own the Scimitar, lockbox ships, and bugship and don't mind them not having interior. maybe they can just use the standard interior for the warbirds I guess.

    Not saying it should never happen, but it should be really low priority compared to content and bugfixes.

    I think interiors really could be the prime source of content.

    90% of the shows took place on ship interiors. I think it would mean some executive decisions about what's customizable and what's not and dealing with the various C-Store interiors.

    But I think having to set new content on new maps holds up content development. (Whereas using placeholder maps was a weakness of exploration.) I think the game really needs interiors where content happens.
  • tonyalmeida2tonyalmeida2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    wufangchu wrote: »
    in case you havent seen it yet, Cryptic has crafted an amazing set of hallways and bridges for your ships, that will replace the existing default bridges and hallways you now have.. Congratulations..

    http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=1027211

    Of course, nothing was mentioned about doing anything for anyone else else, especially those of us who fly ships wityh nothing but a big empty room they call a bridge, and have no hallways whatsoever.. So typical of Cryptic..

    You're flying a scimitar, there is absolutely nothing to complain about.
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    yes but the slight problem is that we don't fly ships form interiors, and pretty sure almost all of us don't spend hours and hours in ship interiors either, unless you spend awful a lot of time inside the ship for some sentimental reasons :D
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  • edwardianededwardianed Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    ...my only knock is you could fly a shuttlecraft through the corridors and land it in the bridge.

    Perhaps Cryptic was going for something like this?

    http://youtu.be/s4UrKeu4Upc
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    i have no problem with the upgraded interiors fed ships desperately needed, klingon ships and romulan ships look and feel as such, but fed interiors have never looked and felt as such. running around the USS Rapier or USS DeWitt, you do not get the sense of walking through a ship corridor, but rather something like a wind tunnel with a lick of paint.
    Consider that the Romulan bridge is about the size the Enterprise-D's bridge should be.

    the Romulan bridge is not in size with the ent-d. the ent-d was built for space and comfort which is frequently seen it is design and corridor layout. and there have been various romulan bridges as well;

    season 1 last ep of tng when the romulans were encountered once again.
    Jarok's scout ship.
    Taris' ship the Haakona.
    Donatra's valdore type (sto calls it a mogai for some reason).
    DS9 Lovok's Romulan ship.
    TOS the first encounter with Romulans since the E-R War.
    Romulan corridors and crew quarters from Lovok's ship.
    Tal's ship corridors and such.
    An engineering section of a Romulan science ship.
    various other areas through a few other episodes.

    This STO bridge for the Romulans is about as big as the central command area of the bridge, the three chairs and a bit of the floor in front and nothing more. Romulan ships were not designed for ease like the ent-d, it was meant for combat which is reflected in it's small bridge design.
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  • emarosa26emarosa26 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I consider it fair. The Federation interiors were designed when the game was first made, which makes them extremely outdated. The game designers have VASTLY improved their level design skills, and it really shows with anything post-LoR. Hell, even Klingon interiors look pretty good.

    Besides, why is it so bad for them to put more focus on their flagship faction? More people play Federation, and that's a fact.
  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    wufangchu wrote: »
    in case you havent seen it yet, Cryptic has crafted an amazing set of hallways and bridges for your ships, that will replace the existing default bridges and hallways you now have.. Congratulations..

    http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=1027211

    Of course, nothing was mentioned about doing anything for anyone else else, especially those of us who fly ships wityh nothing but a big empty room they call a bridge, and have no hallways whatsoever.. So typical of Cryptic..

    Feds get this stuff because they're in desperate need of it. Fed interiors have always been way oversized. KDF and Roms never had that issue to begin with. KDF interiors are decent and some of their bridges are actually perfectly scaled (I'm looking at the Raptor bridges).
    The new Rom stuff is even better.


    In short: Feds needed it, KDF and Roms didn't.
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mrspidey2 wrote: »
    Feds get this stuff because they're in desperate need of it. Fed interiors have always been way oversized. KDF and Roms never had that issue to begin with. KDF interiors are decent and some of their bridges are actually perfectly scaled (I'm looking at the Raptor bridges).
    The new Rom stuff is even better.


    In short: Feds needed it, KDF and Roms didn't.

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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Bah, this redesign is simply window dressing for something that is a non-entity IMO. How bout we work on getting some more ships for the Roms and Klingons.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    talonxv wrote: »
    Bah, this redesign is simply window dressing for something that is a non-entity IMO. How bout we work on getting some more ships for the Roms and Klingons.

    The people who make interios don't work on ships.
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  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    We're only getting the bridge, NOT the hallways (at least for now).
    Only the Origins Bridge will be available at Season 8 launch as the new default bridge option. I hope we can get the hallways in in a future update, but I don't have an ETA on if/when. I'll most definitely pass along the feedback as I think everyone would like to see them.

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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Klingons have combat missions attacking Fed ship interiors.

    [...]

    Just playing the sceptic here for a second: they never bothere to remaster "Blood of the Empire", which still features the old Klingon homeworld in terms of space- as a well as ground maps. Which confuses the heck out of new players who never knew the old First City. I seriously doubt they will bother to redo Klingon missions like "Second Star to the Right" to give them the new interiors.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    The people who make interios don't work on ships.

    No......REALLY?! -facepalm- Yes I know this, but I would had that kind of thing so low on the totem pole that I'd of had those designers working on other things.

    Trust me, I know how design teams work Captain Obvious.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    talonxv wrote: »
    No......REALLY?! -facepalm- Yes I know this, but I would had that kind of thing so low on the totem pole that I'd of had those designers working on other things.

    Trust me, I know how design teams work Captain Obvious.

    Apparently not
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mrspidey2 wrote: »
    Feds get this stuff because they're in desperate need of it. Fed interiors have always been way oversized. KDF and Roms never had that issue to begin with. KDF interiors are decent and some of their bridges are actually perfectly scaled (I'm looking at the Raptor bridges).
    The new Rom stuff is even better.


    In short: Feds needed it, KDF and Roms didn't.
    And to add to that, I don't think that the scaling in the game is an issue. Sure the sets used in the TV show are relatively small, but.... I have great difficulty imagining the main hallways on a Galaxy class being as narrow as what we see in the show.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    We're only getting the bridge, NOT the hallways (at least for now).

    Epic fail. :(
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  • tikonovtikonov Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Saw the new interiors on tribble testing the fed tutorial, the miranda shuttlebay is almost big enough to fit another miranda in their :P

    Seems we have gone back to launch-era CO styled huge interiors again?

    Maybe we are getting our own t-rex to ride through the ship! What an epic way to visit departmnent heads that would be :D
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    tikonov wrote: »
    Maybe we are getting our own t-rex to ride through the ship! What an epic way to visit departmnent heads that would be :D

    that would be so FUN!!!!
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    We're only getting the bridge, NOT the hallways (at least for now).

    That might not actually be a bad thing. On Tribble, the Main Engineering of the new interior is the same one we've known and...tolerated...since launch.

    Given a little more time, maybe they'll redo that, too?
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    great... just what we need data and picard flying a scorpion fighter through the decks again.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    WTF? Are there really three story tall aliens serving in Starfleet somewhere?

    Just because we don't see them, doesn't mean they don't exist. :P
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    WTF? Are there really three story tall aliens serving in Starfleet somewhere?
    Depends how far you wanna look. Obviously the TV shows didn't create any truly weird species for regular use, as it'd have been too expensive. But many of the novels had a lot more variety of body type for Starfleet personnel. One of my favorites had:

    Three different species native to the Deneb system, all three of which were 2-3 times human norm size

    The Sulamid, featured in several novels by multiple authors.

    The Horta. I bet he (it?) had to be careful pressing buttons on the computers! (And yeah, the Horta aren't 3 stories tall, but an example of a non-anthropometric race)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    WTF? Are there really three story tall aliens serving in Starfleet somewhere?
    you need to remember that the halls inside a starship are used for more than just people walking. They also get used for moving cargo, and some cargo items are a lot larger than people.
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  • wufangchuwufangchu Member Posts: 778 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    great... just what we need data and picard flying a scorpion fighter through the decks again.

    that would be FUN!!!!! I wanna do it... :lol::
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