Short of knocking on Brent Redstone Door and demanding he give Mr Rivera a free hand in Star Trek Online,Just kidding of course I would never get pass his Doorman or Do I have to raise a Petition and take it to his father at CBS.What would it take to loosen the constants.There are so many Issues I have with Fed ships in this game I don't know where to start.why don't we have more variant's such as Oberth tugs and transports rather than that ugly cardassian boat The Miranda Class starship which was used in DS9 isn't an admiral level ship that smells of CBS micromanagement.How wonderful it would be to be able to buy from the C store a Transport Pack DY100-DY500 Transports.I also would Love a Soyuz-class starship as I am sure many of us will or a Saratoga Class miranda variant as seen in the first episode of DS9.I assume the reason for these mishaps is CBS or am I wrong.In short I would like to see more ship Variants and I am willing to pay for it.I would like to know from the community what Star Trek Ship they would like to see in the game.
I can, as long as he's not TRIBBLE. I AM pretty damn cute
Also, every conceivable ship has been asked for already and the devs know it. There is no point in asking again, its does zero good.
There must be a Reason why the Dev have refused to add the ships you speak of.
I understand you like many have given up and that is cool however I'm not you.
If There is no other reason than they just don't feel like it, then that's what I want to hear so can move on to other games...Given up does no one any Good.
There must be a Reason why the Dev have refused to add the ships you speak of.
I understand you like many have given up and that is cool however I'm not you.
If There is no other reason than they just don't feel like it, then that's what I want to hear so can move on to other games...Given up does no one any Good.
They're not refusing anything. They just simply don't have the time to add everything that everyone asks for. I'm sure that if they somehow got the magical ability to add everything they wanted in the space of one week, we would see everyone's requests added and more.
Why can't all the fans of Star Trek get there favorite Ships?
You're kidding me, right?
In the case that you're not, let me explain in very clear words.
Making ships takes time. Cryptic wants to produce money making ships, because they're a business. So, given that making ships takes time, they're only going to be working on ships that will make them money. They can't go and please every single person. Also, besides the fact that CBS has said flat out No to any old TOS ships being at anything more than T1, those ships wouldn't sell well. So Cryptic's not going to make them.
They're not refusing anything. They just simply don't have the time to add everything that everyone asks for. I'm sure that if they somehow got the magical ability to add everything they wanted in the space of one week, we would see everyone's requests added and more.
But they don't have magical abilities, do they?
Hey I have an Idea why don't they just say so or have they threw you and your
Extrasensory perception..
Hey I have an Idea why don't they just say so or have they threw you and your
Extrasensory perception..
They have said so in many interviews over the years. Look at some of the recent geko interviews. He says it takes around 20 days for the team to make a ship. They can't commit that much money to something if they're not sure it won't make them back more then it costs to produce.
Just because you want something doesn't mean 50k others also want it and are willing to buy it. They need to pick the projects that the most people are going to want to buy because they can only do so many of those projects a year.
Also, besides the fact that CBS has said flat out No to any old TOS ships being at anything more than T1, those ships wouldn't sell well. So Cryptic's not going to make them.
(...) Also, besides the fact that CBS has said flat out No to any old TOS ships being at anything more than T1, those ships wouldn't sell well. So Cryptic's not going to make them.
While I don't know for sure, I think it has been stated that the "CBS said no" is a myth. If any, they said the T1 TOS vanity connie which was a preorder reward shouldn't be widely available, not even that it shouldn't be T5.
I personally don't care. There is no reason not to have all ships available at endgame because it would strike me as something new if STO would make any rhyme or reason regarding ship age/dimensions/capabilities
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
In the case that you're not, let me explain in very clear words.
Making ships takes time. Cryptic wants to produce money making ships, because they're a business. So, given that making ships takes time, they're only going to be working on ships that will make them money. They can't go and please every single person. Also, besides the fact that CBS has said flat out No to any old TOS ships being at anything more than T1, those ships wouldn't sell well. So Cryptic's not going to make them.
Easy Tough Guy,Since you brought up making ships is so tough like I hoped you would.
Here's an easy way for them to get ships in I assume 3d Max Format or whatever format they want.Hold a Contest for starships allow the community to submit vessals they built from scratch and the winner gets he's ship in the game along with 10.000 zen.I can see you are one of those excuse guys I can't do this or I can't do that and that's the reason why this game is lacking.
They have said so in many interviews over the years. Look at some of the recent geko interviews. He says it takes around 20 days for the team to make a ship. They can't commit that much money to something if they're not sure it won't make them back more then it costs to produce.
Just because you want something doesn't mean 50k others also want it and are willing to buy it. They need to pick the projects that the most people are going to want to buy because they can only do so many of those projects a year.
The Original idea was to offer Dev help in making this game better.
I seem to keep getting reasons why we can't..
The Original idea was to offer Dev help in making this game better.
I seem to keep getting reasons why we can't..
You need to be able to put together a compelling argument as to why something has to be in game. You cant make your request for content, ships or whatever sound like an "I want this" thread.
In your OP you listed a lot of things that you wanted but not good reasons as to why you want them. For example, you want a Soyuz or Saratoga class ship...ok, now tell me why this should be in the game?
The Original idea was to offer Dev help in making this game better.
This is essentially the entire point of the forums. Make posts about the game, what would make it better, what you don't like, what we could do to make things more fun, etc.
I'd like it if they re-arranged the missions so that 90% of the content wasnt level 50. "It's the journey that matters, not the destination." doesnt seem like that when the destination is most the content of the game.
Easy Tough Guy,Since you brought up making ships is so tough like I hoped you would.
Here's an easy way for them to get ships in I assume 3d Max Format or whatever format they want.Hold a Contest for starships allow the community to submit vessals they built from scratch and the winner gets he's ship in the game along with 10.000 zen.I can see you are one of those excuse guys I can't do this or I can't do that and that's the reason why this game is lacking.
Way back when Skullgirls was first being developed, a fan of the game posted a character idea on the Skullgirls facebook page. Not a drawing or anything, just an idea. The Developers thought it was crazy enough that they actually created the character and slipped her into the game. Good feelings all around right?
Wrong.
The guy that posted the original idea noticed this, and demanded compensation. Thus began a months long legal battle between Lab Zero and the fan which lasted even into the Skullgirls' character-funding donation drive. Those of you that participated in it might remember that Juju was originally on the character roster. She was however, removed halfway through.
The final nail in the coffin came when the same fan posted information about their dealings with Lab Zero, violating the signed non-disclosure agreement. In consequence, the Devs removed Juju from the game, ret-conning her existence entirely.
This is essentially the entire point of the forums. Make posts about the game, what would make it better, what you don't like, what we could do to make things more fun, etc.
This is why I wish that more Devs visited the forums.
You need to be able to put together a compelling argument as to why something has to be in game. You cant make your request for content, ships or whatever sound like an "I want this" thread.
In your OP you listed a lot of things that you wanted but not good reasons as to why you want them. For example, you want a Soyuz or Saratoga class ship...ok, now tell me why this should be in the game?
Why I want Miranda Class ships and Variant's for admiral level is.
Star Trek story line Continuity.
Why I want a Federation Class DY series freighter or Oberth Variant is simply because it makes sense...I guess the Federation Transport service was sold to the ferengi.
Why I want more skins for starships that we buy.. hmmm...Call it Customer Service!!!!
That story doesn't even apply. If you read the fine print on any contest centered around making game content those rights are waved same as they are waved when you post an idea on these forums if you read their fine print. That guy in the story posted that on face book and as such his ideas remained his own property.
This is essentially the entire point of the forums. Make posts about the game, what would make it better, what you don't like, what we could do to make things more fun, etc.
Trouble is, too many people equate a lack of a direct dev response (which is impossible; no dev is going to reply to every suggestion made on the forums) and a lack of action (devs may decide against making suggested changes for any number of reasons) with "not listening."
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
That story doesn't even apply. If you read the fine print on any contest centered around making game content those rights are waved same as they are waved when you post an idea on these forums if you read their fine print. That guy in the story posted that on face book and as such his ideas remained his own property.
What are you Talking about? Did perfect world Created a rule against a ship making Contest?
I'm sure if it is in there best Interest to change that rule they may consider it...I call that smart business.
Trouble is, too many people equate a lack of a direct dev response (which is impossible; no dev is going to reply to every suggestion made on the forums) and a lack of action (devs may decide against making suggested changes for any number of reasons) with "not listening."
The odyssey was Part of a contest, "design the next enterprise contest" so the skullgirl thing wouldnt apply, besides, one of the devs stated that they will not accept fan-made designs unless its through a contest, and since the rules of the contest state that said designs are Cryptics to use as they see fit.
In fact the Vet ships were other designs from that contest as well.
I think the bortasqu' series of ships and the klingon vet ship were a seperate design contest.
Note that I said old TOS ships. As for the fleet K'Tinga, perhaps the Klingons updated it and we don't know about it (think D'Kyr). Perhaps I should have been more clear; I was referring to old Fed ships.
The odyssey was Part of a contest, "design the next enterprise contest" so the skullgirl thing wouldnt apply, besides, one of the devs stated that they will not accept fan-made designs unless its through a contest, and since the rules of the contest state that said designs are Cryptics to use as they see fit.
In fact the Vet ships were other designs from that contest as well.
I think the bortasqu' series of ships and the klingon vet ship were a seperate design contest.
This is essentially the entire point of the forums. Make posts about the game, what would make it better, what you don't like, what we could do to make things more fun, etc.
dear dev, i'm sure u never heard it yet: develop PvP without "soon(tm)"
Unfortunately that is not what I am seeing lately.
I know that some things happened because of the forums, I recall people bringing up the question of the impulse thrusters the Steamrunner and we later had a option B with then on the saucer section but that was ages ago.
I have little will or design to even talk to the developers because quite frankly they are often unwilling to engage in any kind of active discussion, most of the time I see "post from the heavens" where they are degrees as things are without any kind of follow up, this is not a discussion ... its a decree and it been very clear to me there is no wish from the developers to make things "more fun" because when they post they talk of the players not as of people but of numbers.
I am ... tired of "we listen" when in the end all decisions are made in a room by people that look at metrics and nothing more, I heard that line from Bethsoft and BioWare before ... and I got DA2 and Oblivion.
things boil down to several factors, "I want" or "we want" isnt always the best for everyone, it's abut creating a balance, a balance that also makes the game money. sometimes they have to sacrifice A to get B into the game. the fact that the Ambassador class is now in game shows that they are listening to the players.
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Secondly: Me personally, I prefer the way it currently is... I prefer most of the TOS/TMP era ships to stay as garbage scows or museum ships.
And judgeing from chats in-game and the forums here, I am not alone... far from it.
Also, every conceivable ship has been asked for already and the devs know it. There is no point in asking again, its does zero good.
I can, as long as he's not TRIBBLE. I AM pretty damn cute
There must be a Reason why the Dev have refused to add the ships you speak of.
I understand you like many have given up and that is cool however I'm not you.
If There is no other reason than they just don't feel like it, then that's what I want to hear so can move on to other games...Given up does no one any Good.
I give you his address on West 57st Street Oops.
They're not refusing anything. They just simply don't have the time to add everything that everyone asks for. I'm sure that if they somehow got the magical ability to add everything they wanted in the space of one week, we would see everyone's requests added and more.
But they don't have magical abilities, do they?
Why can't all the fans of Star Trek get there favorite Ships?
You're kidding me, right?
In the case that you're not, let me explain in very clear words.
Making ships takes time. Cryptic wants to produce money making ships, because they're a business. So, given that making ships takes time, they're only going to be working on ships that will make them money. They can't go and please every single person. Also, besides the fact that CBS has said flat out No to any old TOS ships being at anything more than T1, those ships wouldn't sell well. So Cryptic's not going to make them.
Hey I have an Idea why don't they just say so or have they threw you and your
Extrasensory perception..
Just because you want something doesn't mean 50k others also want it and are willing to buy it. They need to pick the projects that the most people are going to want to buy because they can only do so many of those projects a year.
Eyh. Don't knock him. -At least he uses commas and periods. -I would wish there where spacing between them tough.
So the K'Tinga and the Excelsior made it in how ?
... thank you for your expertise . :cool:
While I don't know for sure, I think it has been stated that the "CBS said no" is a myth. If any, they said the T1 TOS vanity connie which was a preorder reward shouldn't be widely available, not even that it shouldn't be T5.
I personally don't care. There is no reason not to have all ships available at endgame because it would strike me as something new if STO would make any rhyme or reason regarding ship age/dimensions/capabilities
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Easy Tough Guy,Since you brought up making ships is so tough like I hoped you would.
Here's an easy way for them to get ships in I assume 3d Max Format or whatever format they want.Hold a Contest for starships allow the community to submit vessals they built from scratch and the winner gets he's ship in the game along with 10.000 zen.I can see you are one of those excuse guys I can't do this or I can't do that and that's the reason why this game is lacking.
The Original idea was to offer Dev help in making this game better.
I seem to keep getting reasons why we can't..
You need to be able to put together a compelling argument as to why something has to be in game. You cant make your request for content, ships or whatever sound like an "I want this" thread.
In your OP you listed a lot of things that you wanted but not good reasons as to why you want them. For example, you want a Soyuz or Saratoga class ship...ok, now tell me why this should be in the game?
This is essentially the entire point of the forums. Make posts about the game, what would make it better, what you don't like, what we could do to make things more fun, etc.
Ehehehehe...... Not going to happen:
This is why I wish that more Devs visited the forums.
Why I want Miranda Class ships and Variant's for admiral level is.
Star Trek story line Continuity.
Why I want a Federation Class DY series freighter or Oberth Variant is simply because it makes sense...I guess the Federation Transport service was sold to the ferengi.
Why I want more skins for starships that we buy.. hmmm...Call it Customer Service!!!!
That story doesn't even apply. If you read the fine print on any contest centered around making game content those rights are waved same as they are waved when you post an idea on these forums if you read their fine print. That guy in the story posted that on face book and as such his ideas remained his own property.
Trouble is, too many people equate a lack of a direct dev response (which is impossible; no dev is going to reply to every suggestion made on the forums) and a lack of action (devs may decide against making suggested changes for any number of reasons) with "not listening."
What are you Talking about? Did perfect world Created a rule against a ship making Contest?
I'm sure if it is in there best Interest to change that rule they may consider it...I call that smart business.
A good point..
The odyssey was Part of a contest, "design the next enterprise contest" so the skullgirl thing wouldnt apply, besides, one of the devs stated that they will not accept fan-made designs unless its through a contest, and since the rules of the contest state that said designs are Cryptics to use as they see fit.
In fact the Vet ships were other designs from that contest as well.
I think the bortasqu' series of ships and the klingon vet ship were a seperate design contest.
Note that I said old TOS ships. As for the fleet K'Tinga, perhaps the Klingons updated it and we don't know about it (think D'Kyr). Perhaps I should have been more clear; I was referring to old Fed ships.
Thank you..Constructive input finally...
dear dev, i'm sure u never heard it yet: develop PvP without "soon(tm)"
things boil down to several factors, "I want" or "we want" isnt always the best for everyone, it's abut creating a balance, a balance that also makes the game money. sometimes they have to sacrifice A to get B into the game. the fact that the Ambassador class is now in game shows that they are listening to the players.