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SUGGESTION: Next Lockbox Console
einheryar44
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Can we please get the Valdore console "Console - Universal - Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator" as the next lockbox console reward?
It is really amazing, there is no way to overstate it, especially in PvE. Fed/KDF should really have access to it as well, and also, non-Warbird romulan ships (i.e. Temporal Sci/Destroyers, other Lockbox ships, event ships, etc.)
This console is perfect for PvE, if you're dealing more damage, you're taking more damage with the simple threat system, and if you're dealing more damage, this console heals your shields more. Beautiful design. Thank you for making it, please allow non-Warbirds to use it and make it the next console via lockboxes, you will make tons of money with people buying these!
It is really amazing, there is no way to overstate it, especially in PvE. Fed/KDF should really have access to it as well, and also, non-Warbird romulan ships (i.e. Temporal Sci/Destroyers, other Lockbox ships, event ships, etc.)
This console is perfect for PvE, if you're dealing more damage, you're taking more damage with the simple threat system, and if you're dealing more damage, this console heals your shields more. Beautiful design. Thank you for making it, please allow non-Warbirds to use it and make it the next console via lockboxes, you will make tons of money with people buying these!
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My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
As for a next console, I hope it's new, and not some stolen tech that's gonna make everyone choose 1 faction. Maybe an [Anti-placate universal console]
This console makes ships immune to all placate/jams/confusion for 30 seconds. 3 min cooldown. Cryptic make it happen
I strongly suspect this will eventually happen.
This is the purpose of lockbox consoles entirely.
Some consoles just make so much sense, and are so great, they need to be cross-faction (Plasmonic Leech being an obvious example). Not to mention, having a romulan in a non-Warbird and the frustration of owning a Valdore but not being able to use it's console.
If you need a RP reason, think about the real world. When one faction obtains a new technology, there isn't much time delay between other factions obtaining the very same technology, via combinations of espionage, realizing what is possible, background discoveries that naturally lead to such innovations, and of course the mother of all inventions being necessity, what could be more necessary than a rival having tech in an arms race that is superior to your own?
R.I.P
Plus I'd rather see the Wide-Angle Torpedo go cross-faction, maybe as a photon or chroniton, or even transphasic (since thats what the IKS Bortasqu uses).
I understand where you're coming from.
Cross faction consoles are a horrible mistake. For example: look at Real Time Strategy Games. Factions are different for a reason. Look at fighting games. Fighters have different fighting styles for a reason. If every person/faction was the same had had access to everything, they're wouldn't be a need for factions in RTS games, and every fighting game would have 1 fighter at the selection screen.
No worries tho. The Valdore console is Romulan exclusive, most likely it will never be cross faction. It's boarder line overpowered. Feds with elite phasers and Valdore consoles. Shield heals would never end, or something like that. Right? Can't just look at this from a PVE view. Sorry.
And the most important thing you haven't realized, this isn't an RTS, this is an MMO. Faction balance uses mirrors of each other. Look at WoW, Look at SWTOR. Class balance is unique per classes that way homogenization is avoided and things are kept interesting. Class balance is unique, faction balance is equality (or should be). If one faction is inherently more powerful than the others, why even play the others?
However, Romulans at present have such a huge advantage in PVP it's not even funny. Rather than nerfing Romulans, FED/KDF should be brought up to par. This console going to lockbox would be a great step in that direction.
And also, what would Romulans gain in exchange? How about the use of the Valdore console on non-Warbirds? Sounds good to me (who has 4 Romulan's with full T5 rep from all three rep systems).
Just my thoughts on the matter.
I disagree with this assessment as well. In order for the Valdore console to do lots of healing, the ship must being doing lots of DPS. Zombie cruisers are good at healing themselves, but their dps is very sub-par, so they would receive a lot less benefit from this.
Also, in PvP, zombie cruisers are almost negligible because 5 players with teamwork can easily kill even the tankiest one, but that zombie cruisers isn't helping contribute to killing the enemies in a meaningful way. That's why zombie cruisers aren't often brought to top tier PVP matches. Also why engineers are the least useful for top tier PVP, but that is another discussion. (Also keep in mind, the Recluse is the pinnacle of this gameplay anyway, which everyone has access to.)
This can already happen with Romulan Feds.
Fed escorts/cruisers had their stats augmented by plasmonic leach while kdf was left as before LoR.
It seems that some people want the same to happen with romulans .
IF Cryptic will ever start lockboxing romulan consoles it would be unfair to everybody who rolled a romulan
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Unfair? You said unfair? The WHOLE romulan faction IS unfair against the Fed/KDF. The amount of advantages they have IS unfair against Fed/KDF. The Valdore console is one of these unfair advantages and it is clearly unfair. Why? Let me explain.
My friend plays a FED romulan, I play a FED human. He uses the Scimitar with the Valdore console, I use the Fleet Avenger. He wins Crystaline elite regulalry, I am happy if I am a 3rd or 2nd. Meanwhile I do the same or sometimes more dmg than he does, we uses very similar setup, very similar gear, mine is better.
We did not understood why I cannot win the Crystaline elite so we started doing measurements with ACT. It revealed that by dmg I should win many times, but the sole reason why he wins even with lower dmg is the Valdore console's shield healing which is astonishing on that map, not rarely it is above 1 million shield healing at the end of the event!
So you don't tell me that giving the Valdore console to KDF/FED would be unfair, it would only decrease the unfair advantage Romulans currently have.
I've got to go with atlantra on that one... it's a good console, but it only works on ships that have -40 overall power. Since most folks run the Attack preset by default (blowing stuff up is fun), that generally results in -20 Shield power. In other words... they kinda need the shield heals, since their shield points, regen, and so on are lower than what you have on a Fed/KDF ship. Well, a Fed ship, since KDF ships usually have lower shield modifier ratings by comparison.
I really don't want to picture what a Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator would do on an Aux2Batt FAWtilla.
For winning Crystalline... use torps, and cross-heal your teammates. Pure energy builds play right into the thing's resistances; I have a character with absolutely no skill at all in torps that can still out DPS my others... and that character cannot win CCE for the life of him. As far as cross-healing, it's sort of surprising how many don't bother to use heals on their allies... and healing definitely plays a role in scoring. I don't know for sure the metrics Cryptic is using to score the winner, but it does seem to really like it when you bother to keep other people alive...
Crud, now it's going to be harder for me to get first in my Ambassador. :P
You did not get the point. The point was NOT how to win CCE, the point was that a romulan with a Valdore console has an innate huge advantage. My friend in the example does not cross heal as well, both of us go for dmg and kill, both of us can keep ourself up pretty good. Even he wins against cross-healing cruiser pilots as well, for example we saw once a cruiser done ~600k healing overall and still my friend won with his almost ~800k valdore-console shield heal + usual self healing, which went to himself only. Majority of these healing was of course overheals, but unfortunatelly it seems the system counts overheals too, not only effective heals. Even if I crossheal others still simply cannot compete with him, just because of that console. THIS is the point, not how to win CCE.
In my opinion what you say it is that the score on CCE is not calculated right and if self healing would be taken out or its value diminished then it would be ok with fed not having the valdore console.
In PVP perspective a Avenger FAW/A2B/Marion with valdore console looks like a nightmare .
KDF ships would benefit far less than Kumari/Avenger and that 2 ships would become very or almost impossible to kill in PVP so again in my opinion a fair solution it would be that Cryptic change the way the calculate scores in PVE.
I refuse to be content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwI0u9L4R8U
Well, I admit, that if the score calculation were better, then the advantages from using the Valdore console would be much much less, I agree on that.
However, on the second thing, I don't think that az Avenger FAW/A2B/Marion with valdore would be more scarier than the already existing Scimitar FAW/A2B/Marion/Valdore console/battle cloak/secondary shield/singularity core abilites etc.
What advantage does an Avenger with FAW/A2B/Marion have over a Scimitar with FAW/A2B/Marion? None. It only has disadvantages, serious ones. If right now Scimitars with Valdore consoles aren't a huge problem in pvp (and they're not) thinking that a far less threatening ship in PvP without the slurry of advantages Romulan ships have in PvP will somehow be new and scary is a bit illogical.
As a person with a Romulan main since LOR, any ship of mine in PvE feels very squishy if it doesn't have a Valdore console (e.g. from the wall of Tac-cubes in HSE). And it's a non-trivial problem with some of my Romulan characters flying non-warbirds (because it's fun) like my Jem'hadar Attack Ship, Recluse, or Temporal Sci. Not to even mention my FED/KDF toons.
Some players are asking what will Romulans get out of the deal... aside from their non-Warbirds being able to use the Valdore console, what more could you want? Having access to literally everything they could possibly want, and having huge advantages in PvP and PvE, more is required? OK end of rant haha
You still have people zombying in kerrat or cap and hold, and there are some people that heal others that can zombie very good. Anyway what I meant is that even if zombies dont do all that much dps, the console is still OP for them, its still shield healing on top of everything else they have. Also the way people can nearly max all power levels now its possible to max weapon power while still having high aux and shields, so you can still get somewhat decent healing from doing FAW.