Honestly I was reminded of SGU on this mission but as others as said. Portals that go places are not new material. I just liked how it opened up another avenue in this game. Who knows the evil big brothers of the galaxy may finally put this stupid war with the Klingons that has gone nowhere since launch to an end. It just seems so pointless more now then ever before.. 2410 hurry up.
I don't think the six sets of spacial coordinates in the computer were for targeting a single destination.
When you get to the giant "hub" room, there are six planets under observation - Earth, Qo'noS, New Romulus, Iconia, and those planets in the Gamma and Delta Quadrants I'm too lazy to look up the names of right now.
The six sets of coordinates in the computer most likely referred to these six planets, as they were the ones under active observation.
I don't think so. That looked like the gate the aliens used to kidnap the TNG crew in "Schisms". The facility is located in subspace. The location is probably not co-terminous with normal space/time (i.e. locations x,y,z in facility space is x,y,z in nomral space/time). And we know that subspace has many layers. so you would need more than just the normal 3 (or 4) coordinates to be able to target the other end of the gate.
I'll agree there are a ton of similarities... when I first played through it I immediately through SG Universe as well. I even named my Obelisk Destiny in honor of the similarities.
One thing I really can't abide about some sci-fi nerds is that some of them always jump up and down pointing at something, saying it's copied off something else. This is especially the case if they have a very narrow experience of sci-fi.
Really really is a pet peeve of mine. Even worse when when they point to similarities that aren't even there.
The gate concept is older in Trek than stargate. atleast in the basic form of a gate one walks through to get somewhere else. Guardian of forever ring any bells?
Function of going from point A to point B is the same except it also has points in time for B... and a guardian.
The Stargate is a wormhole like the Bjoran wormhole. the gate itself creates a wormhole between another gate and itself. No second gate no wormhole. Iconian gates do not require a second gate.
Theres enough differances right there to see they are similar concepts. Similar they are but not a homage or copy of one another and the "gate" concept predates TOS anyway. But like all fiction original ideas that feel original become more scarce the more work is published.
^ I was going to point that out but - azurianstar had already done so. And I agree with orondis.
But there was a TV Series before that that dealt with time travel through portals - most of you don't know it much less remember it...
The Time Tunnel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Tunnel
It was a cool series back in the day! I could clearly visualize the 2 guys going into the time tunnel in my mind, but I couldn't remember the name of the show - so I had to google it.
There have probably been a few earlier ones on TV, but as far as the origins I'd have to say:
"In ancient Hindu mythology, the Mahabharata, written around 700 B.C. mentions the story of the King Revaita, who travels to a different world to meet the creator Brahma. The King is shocked to learn that many ages have passed when he returns to Earth.[3]"
"...written around 700 B.C." That's 27 hundred years ago - so everything dealing with 'time travel' is copying Hindu mythology. LOL Everything else is a slight variation on it. <VBG>
Other than the white sphere on both ships, there is no similarities between the Ori ship and Obelisk Carrier.
The architecture is very... Ori-ish.
Edit: 'Ancient astronaut theorists', how they call them on TV, would say (in response to the Mahabharata) it's time dilation due to traveling at or near the speed of light. :P
Re-edit: To clarify my original post:
The ship, while it does not even vaguely resemble any Ori ships by shape, has a very similar visual style - with the lines on the white section of the hull and the general usage of the colors of the hull.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
I probably got long winded earlier but I wanted to add that Picard jumped through an Iconian gate to escape an exploding room in the very first episode with Iconian Gates. (If I remember right, he wound up on Taris' ship.)
And Kirk and Spock did it first in City on the Edge of Forever. They were stranded on a planet and forced to jump through the Guardian of Forever. (Whether the Guardian is related to the Iconians is a strange subject. The novels hinted that the Guardian was a special kind of gateway... I think it was suggested that the Guardians' makers taught the Iconians?)
Also, the bulk of Sphere of Influence doesn't take place on a ship but at an Iconian facility in subspace. By powering the gate on the way we did, we were basically poking around the server farm that runs the gates. (Incidentally, would love an STF in a setting like that.)
Well... determining the age of the guardian is problematic. It seems to be at least 5 billion years old.... and once said "I am my own beginning, my own ending".... That doesn't sound like a construct of the Iconians.
And yes, I HAVE seen Time tunnel. It was screwball. Definitely a 60s/70s creation...
I got some sg1 nods in there like mentioning how the Dewans used to worship a race that was more technologically advanced as gods, like humans on earth thousands of years ago in egypt worshipped the Goa'uld in sg1
what reminded me of Stargate Atlantis is where towards the end you reset the gates/wake up the iconians, A bit like when the team of atlantis woke the wraith from hibernation.
I hate to break it to you guys the episode with the Iconian gateway aired April 11, 1988. Stargate the movie came out in 1994. So if anything Stargate stole the idea from Star Trek.
what reminded me of Stargate Atlantis is where towards the end you reset the gates/wake up the iconians, A bit like when the team of atlantis woke the wraith from hibernation.
The Iconians have been "awake" and active in playable missions long before this mission was created.
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Other than the white sphere on both ships, there is no similarities between the Ori ship and Obelisk Carrier.
I don't think so. That looked like the gate the aliens used to kidnap the TNG crew in "Schisms". The facility is located in subspace. The location is probably not co-terminous with normal space/time (i.e. locations x,y,z in facility space is x,y,z in nomral space/time). And we know that subspace has many layers. so you would need more than just the normal 3 (or 4) coordinates to be able to target the other end of the gate.
Really really is a pet peeve of mine. Even worse when when they point to similarities that aren't even there.
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^ I was going to point that out but - azurianstar had already done so. And I agree with orondis.
But there was a TV Series before that that dealt with time travel through portals - most of you don't know it much less remember it...
The Time Tunnel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Tunnel
It was a cool series back in the day! I could clearly visualize the 2 guys going into the time tunnel in my mind, but I couldn't remember the name of the show - so I had to google it.
There have probably been a few earlier ones on TV, but as far as the origins I'd have to say:
"In ancient Hindu mythology, the Mahabharata, written around 700 B.C. mentions the story of the King Revaita, who travels to a different world to meet the creator Brahma. The King is shocked to learn that many ages have passed when he returns to Earth.[3]"
"...written around 700 B.C." That's 27 hundred years ago - so everything dealing with 'time travel' is copying Hindu mythology. LOL Everything else is a slight variation on it. <VBG>
The architecture is very... Ori-ish.
Edit: 'Ancient astronaut theorists', how they call them on TV, would say (in response to the Mahabharata) it's time dilation due to traveling at or near the speed of light. :P
Re-edit: To clarify my original post:
The ship, while it does not even vaguely resemble any Ori ships by shape, has a very similar visual style - with the lines on the white section of the hull and the general usage of the colors of the hull.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
And yes, I HAVE seen Time tunnel. It was screwball. Definitely a 60s/70s creation...
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what reminded me of Stargate Atlantis is where towards the end you reset the gates/wake up the iconians, A bit like when the team of atlantis woke the wraith from hibernation.
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The Iconians have been "awake" and active in playable missions long before this mission was created.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Iconian#Missions_involved