I give up, because this forum is for startrek not stargate. Tell me how close was destiny when it drop out of hyperspace before it's start to check whether the planet get works.
I cannot provide such info without tracking EACH AND EVERY episode of SGU, however here's some info from people who DID do so.
Most likely because Destiny-style Stargates do not have an external power source, they have a limited range. Unlike Milky Way or Pegasus gates, Destiny-style Stargates cannot dial every gate in the galaxy, but instead can only dial gates in relatively close proximity. *snip*
The network formed by prototype Stargates functions differently than the full-fledged networks in the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies. The Stargates are seeded in a relatively straight line, from one end of a galaxy to the other, leaving a course for Destiny to follow.
These Stargates communicate with each other constantly and update their positions, and then link up with Destiny once it comes into range. Because of the limited dialing range of the prototype Stargates, Destiny usually drops out of FTL near the area it wishes to dial, connecting to a few Stargates at a time. Though normally out of range, other gates in the chain can be reached by leapfrogging through the gates in-between.
The prototype network has no local Dial Home Device; instead, it links up with Destiny and other compatible devices, transmitting the relevant addresses within range for use by the crew. For planetary dialing, Destiny has numerous Ancient remote controls, multi-purpose devices which serve as hand-held DHDs among other things. Manual dialing has never been attempted, so it is unclear if the prototype Stargates can be dialed in this manner - the crew of Destiny do not appear to be aware of any such function.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Actually, having read some of the posts, I think he believes the Ori somehow made it possible.
Edit: Yes, just reread it.
The reason why Apophis' Ha'tak could only be dialed while it was near a planet was the fact that it was in hyperspace after SG-1 boarded it, and by the time it dropped out of hyperspace, it was in the same solar system as Earth.
HOWEVER, while it (presumably - its DHD may have allowed dominance) could not receive an incoming wormhole while orbiting Earth, as the original gate takes precedence, it could establish an outgoing connection, saving Daniel's life.
Supergate A gigantic Stargate designed to allow the passage of starships. The Goa'uld word for this device is "Chappa'ko".[72] The Supergate is made up of 90 smaller pieces that are moved through a regular Stargate. Once assembled, a nearby planet is collapsed into a quantum singularity to provide the massive power needed to open a wormhole to the Ori galaxy. Samantha Carter theorizes that the singularity allows a connection to be maintained indefinitely. Each segment of the Supergate is nearly indestructible;[14][72] Stargate Command eventually develops a plan to destroy the Supergate by beaming Mark-IX nuclear warheads between the segments and detonating them during gate activation.[30] The first Ori attempt to create Supergate in the Milky Way fails when Vala Mal Doran inserts her Tel'tak into the incomplete ring and prevents the segments from completely connecting.[14] The second Supergate forms successfully and allows a fleet of Ori motherships into the Milky Way.[72] The SGC seals the Supergate to the Ori by opening a connection from the Pegasus galaxy to a regular Stargate near the Supergate, and then "jumping" the wormhole to the Supergate with a large nuclear explosion.[67] The Supergate is reopened in order to send the Sangraal to the Ori galaxy,[73] and is used by the Odyssey to travel to the Ori galaxy.[30] The special effects for the Supergate are not always consistent regarding its size in different episodes.
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Except fo the time Atlantis in concert witht he SGC picked up a bunch of gates from various planets and daisy chained them between Pegasus and the Milky way to make the Gate bridge.
So, yeah, planet not needed.
Glad I'm not the only one. Whenever I warp into a system on my Eng(The one currently in an Obelisk) the first thing I say is "Hallowed are the Ori." shortly before laying into the nonbelievers.
Well, okay, technically speaking, planet needed. Unless you override McKay's macros and have a puddle jumper or something. :P
Yeah, I'm seriously considering calling this thing "Origin" instead of "Renaissance". Both are actually quite appropriate given the nature of the ship and how it was discovered - the former because of its appearance and the latter because the events leading to its discovery are causing events that somewhat parallel some parts of the Renaissance. If I remember what I learnt about it properly, anyway.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Supergate A gigantic Stargate designed to allow the passage of starships. The Goa'uld word for this device is "Chappa'ko".[72] The Supergate is made up of 90 smaller pieces that are moved through a regular Stargate. Once assembled, a nearby planet is collapsed into a quantum singularity to provide the massive power needed to open a wormhole to the Ori galaxy. Samantha Carter theorizes that the singularity allows a connection to be maintained indefinitely. Each segment of the Supergate is nearly indestructible;[14][72] Stargate Command eventually develops a plan to destroy the Supergate by beaming Mark-IX nuclear warheads between the segments and detonating them during gate activation.[30] The first Ori attempt to create Supergate in the Milky Way fails when Vala Mal Doran inserts her Tel'tak into the incomplete ring and prevents the segments from completely connecting.[14] The second Supergate forms successfully and allows a fleet of Ori motherships into the Milky Way.[72] The SGC seals the Supergate to the Ori by opening a connection from the Pegasus galaxy to a regular Stargate near the Supergate, and then "jumping" the wormhole to the Supergate with a large nuclear explosion.[67] The Supergate is reopened in order to send the Sangraal to the Ori galaxy,[73] and is used by the Odyssey to travel to the Ori galaxy.[30] The special effects for the Supergate are not always consistent regarding its size in different episodes.
And this is supposed to indicate what?
The only mention of a planet in here is the fact that they sent 90 smaller Supergate fragments through a regular, planet-based Stargate, then crushing the planet with the Stargate still on it into a black hole for the Supergate to draw power from. If you are implying that Stargates somehow draw power from the planets they are located on, you are gravely mistaken.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
i don't know what the big deal is with the Iconian space gates... we have a Transwarp Gate System ourself, *inspired* by the Borg tech we've seen in Voy Endgame.
(and technically, if we wanted to hide our gates we all know how cloaking devices work.)
(also i am really disappoint in Cryptic for not handling those Transwarp gates more technically accurate. The Borg had multiple Hubs to make those Gates work (lots of gates... near a SUN!), where is the Hub the Feds use? never seen or heard of it. Every Transwarp button makes me exit in empty space, never near any exit-gate.... very sloppy detail work, just to skip some Loading Screens.)
neat episode... it just started really slow... and god i hate it when the game has voice overs, but it only reads the first line and i need to read the text... really, you got a guy recording it standing there, you can do the 5 extra minutes to let him read the other 3 lines... and the few MBs won't blow the patch size much bigger either... only thing worse than no voice overs are half done voice overs.
I've never seen Stargate so it was all new to me, very well made episode with some good cutscenes. Well done people
The Continuing Voyages of Bridge Commander Captain Lee Drake - USS Sovereign Captain Draxon - IKS RanKuf Commander Torenn - IRW Soryak Captain Gregory MacCray - USS Geronimo
Icarus base is working to unlock the ninth chevron on the stargates. During the testing there are scientists, politicians, a few military, a genius kid, and a scientist with a questionable agenda. While they are all there the base is attacked and they are forced to "dial out" on the stargate using the ninth chevron, they escape through it not knowing where it goes. They arrive on the ancient ship "Destiny" in another galaxy.
I haven't finished Sphere yet, but it seems pretty similar.
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass predates everything here, and these were written in the 1800's.
Don't need a planet to have a gate, but most interesting locations in the Stargate Universe (not talking about the SGU series, but Stargate in general) are on planets. Except for SGU, Stargate has always been stationary on a single planet with them sending an away team to various planets. The only things that are needed are a gate, power supply, and control system for a gate to work. There is just not enough reason to put a gate in space since nothing is usually there.
The more I watched that show the more I felt sorry for Sgt. Greer, Eli, and Lt. Chesty McBewbs.
I'm not trying to be mean but the rest of the people on the Destiny were a bunch of colossal Golgafrinchans. The SGC didn't scrape those stupid morons from the bottom of the barrel. They scraped them off the slime that was on an old shoe that was buried under a rock 8 feet below the surface of the garbage dump they found the barrel discarded in.
And that is probably why they were picked. SG-1 and Atlantis were supposed to be the best and brightest available so they had the whole heroic thing going for them. Universe on the other hand, was about a bunch of regular people stranded on a ship that was taking them farther and farther from Earth. So obviously, we are not getting the best and brightest for that series. Just people that are trying to deal with a very bad situation that they are not prepared for. The problem with Universe is that it is too realistic in some ways. In fact, Universe is closer to what Voyager should have been especially with the Maquis and Voyager trying to get along. It is as if Starfleet ships are gassed with certain drugs to make everyone friendly.
I built Taris' base. We knew she had an Iconian Gateway. The designer on that level had a rough layout drawn up, and wanted a room for the gate, and a control room overlooking it. The comparison was kind of inevitable from there, but we did play it up a bit.
The Iconian Gateway also had to look like *they* (Taris' people) had built it. So we wanted it to be surrounded by Romulan tech. As it happened, we had a nice shape in some of the hallway supports already, so I stole those, and built up stuff around it.
*Did you guys catch the borg tech stuff in the wall behind the gateway? Taris uses whatever tech she thinks will be useful.*
And that is probably why they were picked. SG-1 and Atlantis were supposed to be the best and brightest available so they had the whole heroic thing going for them. Universe on the other hand, was about a bunch of regular people stranded on a ship that was taking them farther and farther from Earth. So obviously, we are not getting the best and brightest for that series. Just people that are trying to deal with a very bad situation that they are not prepared for. The problem with Universe is that it is too realistic in some ways. In fact, Universe is closer to what Voyager should have been especially with the Maquis and Voyager trying to get along. It is as if Starfleet ships are gassed with certain drugs to make everyone friendly.
I suppose that's why SGU "failed", because people were looking for a Cowboy action comic book like SG1, and SGU went for the "reality" tone. Having never been particularly invested or attached to the Stargate series, I actually didn't mind SGU. I saw it as like a polar opposite to TNG, where everyone is a Mary Sue, and instead the "realistic" approach where in real life everyone has flaws and isn't a beacon of light and hope.
Actually, SGU is closer to how Voyager should have been approached, what with the conflict, mistrust, and people not being unaffected and well-adjusted by the situation. Being unable to get home actually freaks people out! And the ship being damaged actually had consequences.
Actually, SGU is closer to how Voyager should have been approached, what with the conflict, mistrust, and people not being unaffected and well-adjusted by the situation. Being unable to get home actually freaks people out! And the ship being damaged actually had consequences.
Year of Hell was the closest to what Voyager was supposed to be and they retconned it out of existence. We had evidence of it in that time travel episode with Kes traveling back in time so we knew it would show up eventually, but the end of the Year of Hell arc had it removed from existence which is why it was retconned.
yep, as soon as treevis, i mean young, i mean worf ordered everyone through the gate(way), i thought, oh TRIBBLE, better grab the communication stones...
Before Stargate, there was a fictional series that had a portal through which Egyptians where kidnapped and enslaved and those slaves built thier own culture, which was ruled by mortal God Kings.
That setting was the Forgotten Realms, the Kidnapping Nation was Imaskar, which was destroyed when the Egyptian Gods and Mesopamtain Gods traveled through the portal in order to free they're people. They had to come in Avatar form as the Imaskar used magic to block full Gods from using the portal. So they went through as Manifestations, an Avatar form and when they arrived, they shared thier essence with Mortals, who become a weaker form of Avatar called incarnations, a mortals possessed by the spirit and mind of there God, but still retaining the mortal part of the mind.
The Imaskari were even know for creating transdimenial spaces, abit they used Magic and not science.
The Egyptian Gods, now called the Mulhorandi Gods after the nation Mulhorand, were mostly more benevolant then thier Stargate equivalant.
And the Forgotten Realms predated Stargate by a large margin.
After having played Sphere of influnce (6 out of 18 times planned) and discovering the whole Starga-sorry, Gateway network, of course and that the Ori have designed the Obelisk (they're clearly either Iconians themselves or some of their higher-up subservient race), I gotta thank you for finally bringing Stargate to a MMO audience.
Now to a more imortant point though, could you add an Atlantis style cityship to the Dyson sphere please? Just park it somewhere inside it, there's plenty of space.
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After having played Sphere of influnce (6 out of 18 times planned) and discovering the whole Starga-sorry, Gateway network, of course and that the Ori have designed the Obelisk (they're clearly either Iconians themselves or some of their higher-up subservient race), I gotta thank you for finally bringing Stargate to a MMO audience.
Now to a more imortant point though, could you add an Atlantis style cityship to the Dyson sphere please? Just park it somewhere inside it, there's plenty of space.
It's cute how you think that Stargate invented...well...anything.
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Gateways have been around even before Stargate. But, wrap your noodle around this:
"Trapped by a power source about to rip the planet apart, an unprepared group of military personnel and politicians jump through a gateway to a mysterious alien vessel thousands of years old, located far away...."
Marvel had Stargates that the Shi'ar Empire used to travel around their empire. There are many instances of Portal Networks in fiction that predate Stargate considerably.
Also, I am not seeing any Ori in that mission. Ori are Prophet-like beings that gain their power from worship. Iconians are not Prophet-like nor do they seem to control their servants through religion.
There was a Stargate MMO being made and last I checked it was cancelled with some of its footage in the first episode of SGU.
Mass Effect came to mind with the opening of all the gates, the star chart with all the gates, and opening them all was the Reaper plot.
If fact the The Rachni Wars were a result of opening mass relays without looking, and the Rachni were being manipulated by the reapers in the background to disrupt the galaxy.
But to be fair Mass Effect did take a lot from Star Trek, in fact they have a more realistic Federation.
It's cute how you think that Stargate invented...well...anything.
I don't think that. Actually, I find it doubtful any of the currently widely known scifi works actually invented something. It most likely dates back a very, very long time...
But Stargate happens to be one of the largest scifi franchises and it revolves around the gate concept, which Star trek doesn't (well, not until recently). So it's only logical to suggest that Cryptic's watched a lot of Stargate recently (good point with SGU and the trip to Destiny, the way we run through the gate and even manage to grab some supplies nicely reminded me of that :P ).
More to the point, the whole post was meant as tongue-in-cheek. Sorry for not making it clearer.
Also: How did I miss this thread? Sorry for starting a new one, mods.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
I don't think that. Actually, I find it doubtful any of the currently widely known scifi works actually invented something. It most likely dates back a very, very long time...
But Stargate happens to be one of the largest scifi franchises and it revolves around the gate concept, which Star trek doesn't (well, not until recently). So it's only logical to suggest that Cryptic's watched a lot of Stargate recently (good point with SGU and the trip to Destiny, the way we run through the gate and even manage to grab some supplies nicely reminded me of that :P ).
More to the point, the whole post was meant as tongue-in-cheek. Sorry for not making it clearer.
Also: How did I miss this thread? Sorry for starting a new one, mods.
The whole gate concept is not even Stargate's originally. The Wing Commander series revolved around Jump gates for their starships to travel through, and sci fi has been using the concept of jump gates and folding space for quite a while now, since the theory of relativity basically makes travelling faster than the speed of light impossible. Hell, if you really want to get technical, Babylon 5 predates the Stargate movie by a year, and completely revolved around gate networks, and many consider that a big sci fi franchise.
While there might be inspiration from Stargate there (and really SG-1 was loaded with Star Trek inspiration from the first episode and got thicker as time went on [non-interference policy anyone?]) I don't think the architecture was little more than coincidental, since many of the creatures and settings were used in previous episodes of Star Trek, such as the aliens that kidnapped Worf, Riker and a few other crew.
Realistically, unlike some others that have claimed to the contrary, saying that this FE "takes" a lot from Stargate (and SGU in particular) seems to be stretching for a conspiracy when SGU's premise was not even close to original. Iconian technology has always been dangerous in the past, to the point that it caused catastrophic failure of starships, where one even suffered a warp core breach after being exposed to an Iconian computer virus. And many episodes of Star Trek have always involved the crew always turning something they should have left alone on. But the difference in a series of the past is they can't come up with a magic'd deus ex answer in 45 minutes or less like they use to in Star Trek.
Got to say that I think some of the criticism in this thread is a bit much. Yes plots and settings are clearly "inspired" by other works from the genre but it is not a clear rip off. I found the Elachi story in LoR to be a much worse offender.
I also really enjoyed the tie in to TNG. Obviously, fighting side by side with Worf was "epic" with a lower case e ... but still epic. The visuals were also very well done. I have to say that I find this episode to be a nice change of pace from the grinds, p2w and silly content like dinosaurs with lasers. It is a shame they don't do more content like this and tie it into the Iconian plot.
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I cannot provide such info without tracking EACH AND EVERY episode of SGU, however here's some info from people who DID do so.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Supergate A gigantic Stargate designed to allow the passage of starships. The Goa'uld word for this device is "Chappa'ko".[72] The Supergate is made up of 90 smaller pieces that are moved through a regular Stargate. Once assembled, a nearby planet is collapsed into a quantum singularity to provide the massive power needed to open a wormhole to the Ori galaxy. Samantha Carter theorizes that the singularity allows a connection to be maintained indefinitely. Each segment of the Supergate is nearly indestructible;[14][72] Stargate Command eventually develops a plan to destroy the Supergate by beaming Mark-IX nuclear warheads between the segments and detonating them during gate activation.[30] The first Ori attempt to create Supergate in the Milky Way fails when Vala Mal Doran inserts her Tel'tak into the incomplete ring and prevents the segments from completely connecting.[14] The second Supergate forms successfully and allows a fleet of Ori motherships into the Milky Way.[72] The SGC seals the Supergate to the Ori by opening a connection from the Pegasus galaxy to a regular Stargate near the Supergate, and then "jumping" the wormhole to the Supergate with a large nuclear explosion.[67] The Supergate is reopened in order to send the Sangraal to the Ori galaxy,[73] and is used by the Odyssey to travel to the Ori galaxy.[30] The special effects for the Supergate are not always consistent regarding its size in different episodes.
Well, okay, technically speaking, planet needed. Unless you override McKay's macros and have a puddle jumper or something. :P
Yeah, I'm seriously considering calling this thing "Origin" instead of "Renaissance". Both are actually quite appropriate given the nature of the ship and how it was discovered - the former because of its appearance and the latter because the events leading to its discovery are causing events that somewhat parallel some parts of the Renaissance. If I remember what I learnt about it properly, anyway.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
And this is supposed to indicate what?
The only mention of a planet in here is the fact that they sent 90 smaller Supergate fragments through a regular, planet-based Stargate, then crushing the planet with the Stargate still on it into a black hole for the Supergate to draw power from. If you are implying that Stargates somehow draw power from the planets they are located on, you are gravely mistaken.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Iconian gates came first! Get over it.
Love the Mission, Love the ship. Move on with your lives.
(and technically, if we wanted to hide our gates we all know how cloaking devices work.)
(also i am really disappoint in Cryptic for not handling those Transwarp gates more technically accurate. The Borg had multiple Hubs to make those Gates work (lots of gates... near a SUN!), where is the Hub the Feds use? never seen or heard of it. Every Transwarp button makes me exit in empty space, never near any exit-gate.... very sloppy detail work, just to skip some Loading Screens.)
neat episode... it just started really slow... and god i hate it when the game has voice overs, but it only reads the first line and i need to read the text... really, you got a guy recording it standing there, you can do the 5 extra minutes to let him read the other 3 lines... and the few MBs won't blow the patch size much bigger either... only thing worse than no voice overs are half done voice overs.
Captain Lee Drake - USS Sovereign
Captain Draxon - IKS RanKuf
Commander Torenn - IRW Soryak
Captain Gregory MacCray - USS Geronimo
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass predates everything here, and these were written in the 1800's.
But really? You compared STO to SGUniverse...the worst of the worst?...Thats just mean
And that is probably why they were picked. SG-1 and Atlantis were supposed to be the best and brightest available so they had the whole heroic thing going for them. Universe on the other hand, was about a bunch of regular people stranded on a ship that was taking them farther and farther from Earth. So obviously, we are not getting the best and brightest for that series. Just people that are trying to deal with a very bad situation that they are not prepared for. The problem with Universe is that it is too realistic in some ways. In fact, Universe is closer to what Voyager should have been especially with the Maquis and Voyager trying to get along. It is as if Starfleet ships are gassed with certain drugs to make everyone friendly.
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I suppose that's why SGU "failed", because people were looking for a Cowboy action comic book like SG1, and SGU went for the "reality" tone. Having never been particularly invested or attached to the Stargate series, I actually didn't mind SGU. I saw it as like a polar opposite to TNG, where everyone is a Mary Sue, and instead the "realistic" approach where in real life everyone has flaws and isn't a beacon of light and hope.
Actually, SGU is closer to how Voyager should have been approached, what with the conflict, mistrust, and people not being unaffected and well-adjusted by the situation. Being unable to get home actually freaks people out! And the ship being damaged actually had consequences.
Year of Hell was the closest to what Voyager was supposed to be and they retconned it out of existence. We had evidence of it in that time travel episode with Kes traveling back in time so we knew it would show up eventually, but the end of the Year of Hell arc had it removed from existence which is why it was retconned.
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That setting was the Forgotten Realms, the Kidnapping Nation was Imaskar, which was destroyed when the Egyptian Gods and Mesopamtain Gods traveled through the portal in order to free they're people. They had to come in Avatar form as the Imaskar used magic to block full Gods from using the portal. So they went through as Manifestations, an Avatar form and when they arrived, they shared thier essence with Mortals, who become a weaker form of Avatar called incarnations, a mortals possessed by the spirit and mind of there God, but still retaining the mortal part of the mind.
The Imaskari were even know for creating transdimenial spaces, abit they used Magic and not science.
The Egyptian Gods, now called the Mulhorandi Gods after the nation Mulhorand, were mostly more benevolant then thier Stargate equivalant.
And the Forgotten Realms predated Stargate by a large margin.
Now to a more imortant point though, could you add an Atlantis style cityship to the Dyson sphere please? Just park it somewhere inside it, there's plenty of space.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
It's cute how you think that Stargate invented...well...anything.
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"Trapped by a power source about to rip the planet apart, an unprepared group of military personnel and politicians jump through a gateway to a mysterious alien vessel thousands of years old, located far away...."
Stargate Universe, Episode 1
Also, I am not seeing any Ori in that mission. Ori are Prophet-like beings that gain their power from worship. Iconians are not Prophet-like nor do they seem to control their servants through religion.
There was a Stargate MMO being made and last I checked it was cancelled with some of its footage in the first episode of SGU.
If fact the The Rachni Wars were a result of opening mass relays without looking, and the Rachni were being manipulated by the reapers in the background to disrupt the galaxy.
But to be fair Mass Effect did take a lot from Star Trek, in fact they have a more realistic Federation.
I don't think that. Actually, I find it doubtful any of the currently widely known scifi works actually invented something. It most likely dates back a very, very long time...
But Stargate happens to be one of the largest scifi franchises and it revolves around the gate concept, which Star trek doesn't (well, not until recently). So it's only logical to suggest that Cryptic's watched a lot of Stargate recently (good point with SGU and the trip to Destiny, the way we run through the gate and even manage to grab some supplies nicely reminded me of that :P ).
More to the point, the whole post was meant as tongue-in-cheek. Sorry for not making it clearer.
Also: How did I miss this thread? Sorry for starting a new one, mods.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
The whole gate concept is not even Stargate's originally. The Wing Commander series revolved around Jump gates for their starships to travel through, and sci fi has been using the concept of jump gates and folding space for quite a while now, since the theory of relativity basically makes travelling faster than the speed of light impossible. Hell, if you really want to get technical, Babylon 5 predates the Stargate movie by a year, and completely revolved around gate networks, and many consider that a big sci fi franchise.
While there might be inspiration from Stargate there (and really SG-1 was loaded with Star Trek inspiration from the first episode and got thicker as time went on [non-interference policy anyone?]) I don't think the architecture was little more than coincidental, since many of the creatures and settings were used in previous episodes of Star Trek, such as the aliens that kidnapped Worf, Riker and a few other crew.
Realistically, unlike some others that have claimed to the contrary, saying that this FE "takes" a lot from Stargate (and SGU in particular) seems to be stretching for a conspiracy when SGU's premise was not even close to original. Iconian technology has always been dangerous in the past, to the point that it caused catastrophic failure of starships, where one even suffered a warp core breach after being exposed to an Iconian computer virus. And many episodes of Star Trek have always involved the crew always turning something they should have left alone on. But the difference in a series of the past is they can't come up with a magic'd deus ex answer in 45 minutes or less like they use to in Star Trek.
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I also really enjoyed the tie in to TNG. Obviously, fighting side by side with Worf was "epic" with a lower case e ... but still epic. The visuals were also very well done. I have to say that I find this episode to be a nice change of pace from the grinds, p2w and silly content like dinosaurs with lasers. It is a shame they don't do more content like this and tie it into the Iconian plot.
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