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Bridge Commander 2 on Kickstarter

zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2013 in Ten Forward
just wanted to leave this here because Star Trek gaming related:

Kickstarter:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1050514166/bridge-commander-2

Indiegogo:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bridge-commander-2


more about the project:

http://www.facebook.com/stbc2
http://www.twitter.com/STBC2
http://stbc2.net or http://bridge-commander-2.com



also found this thread on the ST Excalibur Forums
http://www.stexcalibur.com/forum/index.php/topic,7607.0.html


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  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    GL!!!!!!


    I hope it is successful!
    Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.

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  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,544 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Definitely a better way to spend money over opening lock boxes. :D
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Yeah...lawyers aren't going to let that one get off the ground.
  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    Yeah...lawyers aren't going to let that one get off the ground.

    Hang on ... is it not official? :eek:
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    Hang on ... is it not official? :eek:

    It's basically a guy doing this on his own. Not affiliated in any way with CBS, Paramount or anybody else.

    He claims to have permission from CBS, but no mention of any other rights holders. And frankly, given that this is going to result in a for-profit product...

    To say I'm dubious that this will ever happen is extremely understating things.
  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    It's basically a guy doing this on his own. Not affiliated in any way with CBS, Paramount or anybody else.

    He claims to have permission from CBS, but no mention of any other rights holders. And frankly, given that this is going to result in a for-profit product...

    To say I'm dubious that this will ever happen is extremely understating things.

    Arrhh man. That is what what I was fearing.

    Thanks for the headsup.
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    Arrhh man. That is what what I was fearing.

    Thanks for the headsup.

    No problem at all. Kickstarter is a great place for well developed ideas that just need a bit of a boost to become reality. A guy randomly waking up one morning and deciding he wants to use other people's money to turn a series of mods into a for-profit game...not so much. Hell, if you look at the reward tiers, backers won't even get a copy when all is said and done.
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Actually, he doesn't claim to have permission, and in the past has admitted he doesn't. Edit: Unless he's changed that story, but his list of disclaimers makes me doubt he actually has permission.

    CBS has been pretty generous with fan productions and games in the past, Renegades had no permission either, and its kickstarter was never challenged. However, the plan for Renegades was that it would be pitched as a TV series and failing that possibly become a free web series. Sticking a price tag on there might test the limits of CBS's generosity.

    I think the real question is Activision, though. After their lawsuits with Viacom and hissy fit, they basically said they were going to hold their Star Trek titles hostage until they got all that money they were never due to begin with.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    Hell, if you look at the reward tiers, backers won't even get a copy when all is said and done.

    no, it just says in bold text in the main article "everyone will receive Bridge Commander 2 when the game is finished."
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    hevach wrote: »
    Actually, he doesn't claim to have permission, and in the past has admitted he doesn't.

    From the pitch:

    The "STAR TREK" Intellectual Property is not directly related to this project, however we have obtained legal permission from CBS themselves, namely their legal department to pursue this game and fully develop it

    If that's not claiming permission, I don't know what is...
    hevach wrote: »
    CBS has been pretty generous with fan productions and games in the past, Renegades had no permission either, and its kickstarter was never challenged. However, the plan for Renegades was that it would be pitched as a TV series and failing that possibly become a free web series. Sticking a price tag on there might test the limits of CBS's generosity.

    As you say, there is a fundamental difference between producing a free to consume web series at fan expense versus producing a for-profit product.
    tenkari wrote: »
    no, it just says in bold text in the main article "everyone will receive Bridge Commander 2 when the game is finished."

    While I did miss that, you'll forgive me for being as completely cynical as I am. The pitch can be edited at any time. Backer rewards are exceedingly difficult to tweak. Promising a backer reward in the pitch, but not including it in the rewards is a huge red flag.

    While it could simply be that this guy has zero experience putting together anything resembling a professional proposal (compare his little one page snippet with say, this kind of a design pitch for example (full disclosure, I am a backer for the latter)), it's far from the only inconsistency on this project.
  • lincolninspacelincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    cookiecrook wrote: »
    Definitely a better way to spend money over opening lock boxes. :D

    This would be great! They wont have Patrick Stewart or Brent Spiner in it like the original though.
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  • xsnip3rx1xsnip3rx1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Greetings everyone, sorry about the confusion, my name is Kenneth Emerson, the creator of Bridge Commander 2, i'd like to clear up any misconceptions if i may.

    Bridge Commander 2 will be Free-to-Play once released, no subscriptions, no benefits for people who pay more, no in-game items to be purchased.

    CBS HAS Granted us permission to pursue and develop Bridge Commander 2.

    If anyone has any further questions please feel free to ask, i hope you will all enjoy Bridge Commander 2 once it's completed!

    feel free to check out the Facebook page or Official (yet poorly designed) website

    Facebook: http://facebook.com/stbc2
    Website: http://stbc2.net
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This isn't going to end pretty...

    We tried getting permission from Activision to use BC in several forms (including a colaborative BC2) over at the BC Modding Central...

    They did'n even laugh... they just said "NO... NEVER".

    EDIT: And we didn even want to make money of it.
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  • rakija879rakija879 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    bridge commander..... sheer awesomeness :P:o:eek:
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    What does Activision say about this or lacavision?I like this one better

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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Taking money to produce vaporware, hell maybe he can get commercial interest create a company and name it Perpetual......Oh wait, that's been done already.
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