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Avenger Class battlecruiser possible weapon loadout

starsword1989starsword1989 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Federation Discussion
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet.
Have you guys noticed this on the new dev blog?


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/280/c/b/05dc56ae689aa74a19c4327f1d0c7b7c1381171562_by_seohtongpin-d6pntqc.jpg

This 5 fore 3 aft weapon loadout is only available on the Scimitar Warbirds. However it was already stated that warbirds will not receive Advanced Comm Array commands. Thus, the only other ship that will receive this and have 5 fore 3 aft layout is likely to be the upcoming battlecruiser.

It makes sense actually, since it was stated that Battlecruisers will only receive 3 out of 4 of the commands.
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Not just that, Bran tweeted that in the photobomb of the ship that has us all swooning/crowing at the Avenger's blockiness.

    3 aft beam arrays... :P

    Asking for 4DHCs, 1DBB, 2 turrets, 1KCB, loaded with A2B, DEMarion and a BO doff.

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  • spencerb96spencerb96 Member Posts: 247 Media Corps
    edited October 2013
    IS confirmed that it is a 5/3 weapon layout. All stats and info is on this album.
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  • starsword1989starsword1989 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    spencerb96 wrote: »
    IS confirmed that it is a 5/3 weapon layout. All stats and info is on this album.

    Thanks for the info. Oh no did they build this ship from minecraft?
  • superherofansuperherofan Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Gimme, gimme, gimme!
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited October 2013
    The stats are awesome-sauce ...even OP but dear God it so hideous. Sorry I can't part with my cash for this monstrosity.
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  • unboundinfernounboundinferno Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    The stats are awesome-sauce ...even OP but dear God it so hideous. Sorry I can't part with my cash for this monstrosity.

    True, one reason i could stand the Oddy is that at least its looks are good.
    khayuung wrote: »
    Not just that, Bran tweeted that in the photobomb of the ship that has us all swooning/crowing at the Avenger's blockiness.

    3 aft beam arrays... :P

    Asking for 4DHCs, 1DBB, 2 turrets, 1KCB, loaded with A2B, DEMarion and a BO doff.

    I'm not thinking A2B on that. I've grown fond of the 3x Damage Control DOFF trick and am thinking of a different layout:

    TT I
    BO I, CSV I, APO I
    EPS I, Aux2SIF, EPW III, DEM III
    HE I, TSS II
    HE I, TSS II (or play with a Tractor Beam I, TBR I - handle a spot defense on the TBR nulling high-yield torps)

    Would dish damage, tank, could shred a target to hell and back and would be plenty tough enough to handle any Elite STF with a good Capt.

    If only I could get around its ugly-back-assward look.
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It's massively OP in every way. No way this ship should EVER be in the game with stats and setup like that.

    Just another sign Cryptic doesn't "get it"......
  • sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I think...


    I think I like it...

    Hard-core stats on that thing, and the turn rate, surprising, but it looks as short as the Galaxy compared to the Oddy.

    I think I'd prefer this over the Typhoon.

    I can only assume this is going to be a C-Store ship, and it's going to cost at least 3000 Zen. No one would buy the other ships if it cost 2500.
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited October 2013
    It will run my perfect Cruiser Layout.

    Fore: 2 Torps, 3 DHC
    Rear: 3 Turrets or 2 Turrets & KCB.

    Backed with my choice of a Damage Control or Aux2Bat build.

    The Klingons got bumped down the list so the Feds could get this thing... that's not going over well.

    Although I do like the improvement to all Cruisers that this ship will test. It actually makes having a cruiser or two in the mix awesome. More Firepower & More Shields.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    This ship is close to my Fleet Tor'Kaht, which I have equipped with 3x DBB and an Omega torp, since DBB have a wider arc that gives me more final DPS than small arc of DHCs. I dont know if this is possible with 5 forward slots... it will be hard to keep 4x DBBs fully powered and operational.

    A lot of people thought the Scimitards would all be DHCs, and most of them seem to be running beam arrays because of the turn-rate.

    PVE it doesnt matter. PVP, I would be thinking about the rear blind spot. Turrets and beams arent going to keep people away back there, so probably need something like mines. If you close off the rear enough you could maybe get away with DBBs on the front. Its a cloak not a battlecloak.
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  • levonscottlevonscott Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It's a maniacal beast of a thing...


    ...


    ...I like it. I like it alot. Even might work on my sci if I tailor it right.

    Good job PWE/Cryptic
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  • veritech05veritech05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    dknight0001 wrote: »
    It will run my perfect Cruiser Layout.

    Fore: 2 Torps, 3 DHC
    Rear: 3 Turrets or 2 Turrets & KCB.

    Backed with my choice of a Damage Control or Aux2Bat build.

    The Klingons got bumped down the list so the Feds could get this thing... that's not going over well.

    Although I do like the improvement to all Cruisers that this ship will test. It actually makes having a cruiser or two in the mix awesome. More Firepower & More Shields.

    Newbie question: what is a KCB?
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    veritech05 wrote: »
    Newbie question: what is a KCB?

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  • veritech05veritech05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    The Borg 'Kinetic Cutting Beam' obtained from the Omega Reputation system.

    Damn I knew that! Thank you.
  • nx15nx15 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I am almost 100% sure it will cost 2500 zen for the non fleet version, subject to FSM discount, just like almost every other ship the Devs put out...

    Just saying: The Ssscccchhhimmmitar is more OP than this

    Also: I bet they're gonna make something special for the klinks for once, perhaps a K'vort, or something totally new?
  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nx15 wrote: »
    Also: I bet they're gonna make something special for the klinks for once, perhaps a K'vort, or something totally new?

    Klingons have been waiting on a Regent-style Negh'var Refit since it was teased... six months ago?
  • goku5030goku5030 Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nx15 wrote: »
    I am almost 100% sure it will cost 2500 zen for the non fleet version, subject to FSM discount, just like almost every other ship the Devs put out...

    Just saying: The Ssscccchhhimmmitar is more OP than this

    Also: I bet they're gonna make something special for the klinks for once, perhaps a K'vort, or something totally new?

    True but I love both I buy both and I get my cookies on :X... So what's more op The cookies
  • goku5030goku5030 Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    The Borg 'Kinetic Cutting Beam' obtained from the Omega Reputation system.

    Oh look the pirate.... wow so you stole my cookies and milk huh jake :P sparro
  • nightxravennightxraven Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    in my opinion the avenger is a well needed replacement for the "Dreadnought" cruiser plus i did a in fleet pvp last night and it was soo awesome :P
  • redz4twredz4tw Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2013
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    It's massively OP in every way. No way this ship should EVER be in the game with stats and setup like that.

    Just another sign Cryptic doesn't "get it"......
    We asked for a cruiser that could take on escorts, we got one.
  • xxxhellspawnyxxxxxxhellspawnyxxx Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    OP? Nah - not really.

    Can she do escort-level DPS? No. She does good DPS, but she still isn't going to outperform an escort in that department.

    Can she out-turn an escort? No. She can can out-turn most cruisers, but not escorts.
    And further to that - whilst she can equip cannons, her turn rate makes her far slower to bring them to bear.

    Since you mentioned DPS you mean PvE. The (Fleet) Avenger certainly outperforms almost all available escorts. Just use DEM3, EPtW3 and Aux2Bat with a 5 cannon build. The lower turnrate isn't a problem, STFs aren't hit and run.
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  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    xxxhellspawnyxxx wrote: »
    Since you mentioned DPS you mean PvE. The (Fleet) Avenger certainly outperforms almost all available escorts. Just use DEM3, EPtW3 and Aux2Bat with a 5 cannon build. The lower turnrate isn't a problem, STFs aren't hit and run.

    DPS is also used in PvP and can be tracked in it as well. A well equipped Excel' should be able to hold its own against a 5-DHC dependent Avenger. Other load-outs will vary. The Avenger may be a sort of "Queen-of-battles" for the Federation, but it will not reign supreme.
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