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Temporal Ship or Dominion Carrier

roamingmuttroamingmutt Member Posts: 117 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I've been saving up and I'm almost to the point where I have to choose. I'm really curious to give both a try and I can't decide which one that I want to grab.

What's everyone preference and please give a reason if you can.
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    carrier isnt good because you have to buy the heavy escort and the attack ship to have everything.
    If you don't buy all that you are left with a carrier with only fighters.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,331 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I f'ing love the Jemmie carrier man its got a huge sense of power to it even without the HEC console or the frigates its still awesome I'm still out dps'ing most escorts in mine.

    The temporal destroyer is also an impressive escort that I have as well butt its more about preference.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    chalpen wrote: »
    carrier isnt good because you have to buy the heavy escort and the attack ship to have everything.
    If you don't buy all that you are left with a carrier with only fighters.
    Even without the frigates, it's a very good carrier. I use it with the elite scorp, and it's fine.

    The temporal ship is a destroyer (more like an escort), the carrier is, well, a carrier. What do you prefer to play ?

    Also, I would suggest to wait until the next FE is released, as the player will be able to earn a carrier.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    Also, I would suggest to wait until the next FE is released, as the player will be able to earn a carrier.

    Best advice right now, I think.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    This is just my opinion, but without the frigates, the "carrier" aspect of the ship is very difficult.
    With the new pet mechanisc the Elite Scorps do not survive and need to be constantly respawned so if it ever gets to 5 stars,
    Frigates > fighters now.
    Previously, it was Frigates > Fighters unless the fighter was an elite scorpion.

    The better frigate it the Recluse but he isn't asking about it.




    And I have only heard good things about the temp ship.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,331 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It doesn't need the hangars really would have worked as a giant TAC cruiser so even with all that hangar issues its still an epic ship.
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  • roamingmuttroamingmutt Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    Even without the frigates, it's a very good carrier. I use it with the elite scorp, and it's fine.

    The temporal ship is a destroyer (more like an escort), the carrier is, well, a carrier. What do you prefer to play ?

    Also, I would suggest to wait until the next FE is released, as the player will be able to earn a carrier.

    That's sort of the problem. I try to be versatile in my game play. I've got the Chimera and a few other escorts that I play with, but I don't have a carrier. The closest I've got is the Vesta and it's two runabouts.

    I hadn't heard that the next FE will give a carrier. Where can I get information about that? Might be exactly what I'm looking for.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,897 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    turbomagnus wrote: »
    Best advice right now, I think.

    Yeah...just wait till the finally release the info on the Alien Carrier, who knows...you might really like it and it would be free.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    They haven't release much information. All we know so far is that it's supposed to be an 'Alien' carrier.

    Of course, considering that all the races in STO are aliens to other races, that doesn't exactly narrow it down.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Split the difference and get a temporal carrier ;p

    (This is a joke, the game does not have a temporal carrier, yet...)
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,939 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    chalpen wrote: »
    carrier isnt good because you have to buy the heavy escort and the attack ship to have everything.
    If you don't buy all that you are left with a carrier with only fighters.

    Out Of Your MIND.

    the JHDC is the BEST non-escort ship in the game for DPS. without fleet or rep gear, you have a survivable ship that can do 7K DPS PLUS another 3-4K DPS using VR Danubes and/or Fliers.

    the ONLY reason I'm not flying it now is because I like my captains to fly STARSHIPS
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    Out Of Your MIND.

    the JHDC is the BEST non-escort ship in the game for DPS. without fleet or rep gear, you have a survivable ship that can do 7K DPS PLUS another 3-4K DPS using VR Danubes and/or Fliers.

    the ONLY reason I'm not flying it now is because I like my captains to fly STARSHIPS

    7k dps is possible on many ships with a better bridge layout and turn rate.
    The "plus" thing about the carrier is the fact that it can send out pets that can potentially help you. But the pets are fighters, and those fighters don't survive the CC on elite. So they don't do any DPS.

    But the recluses frigates do survive quite happily.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Mobius has my vote. So much flexibility
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

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  • nagrom7nagrom7 Member Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The mobius is the best ship in the game for a sci-scort IMO. It also makes a great tactical escort with heavy science orientation. I run a power drain build on mine putting flow capacitor consoles in the science slots, that way it can still do a lot of science without distracting from the pew pew.

    The downside is that the console you get is a suicide button and should only ever be slotted in conjunction with the wells console.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The jemhadar dreadnought is a beast. yes its better with the heavy escort and the bug but its not going to hamper you that much without.

    yes the fighters can last up to 4 and 5 stars fairly often and all the stars are now buffs so at no point are they any worse than what we had before.

    but it is still a carrier and you have to be comfortable using them as they are not everyone's cup of tea.
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    chalpen wrote: »
    carrier isnt good because you have to buy the heavy escort and the attack ship to have everything.
    If you don't buy all that you are left with a carrier with only fighters.

    don't listen to this guy, the JHDC is the best overall carrier in the game atm, its a great ship in pretty much everything if fit right, unless you pvp a lot(and even then) you probably won't like the destroyer that much.

    i have both btw, and rarely use my destroyer.
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Wells Temporal Sci Vessel, the best for me. It can go back in time and that's so badass that automatically wins for the cool. Best lock-box console ever! Also best Sci Vessel so far imho. The bugship of the sci's, good option for a tac too.

    Mobius Temporal Destroyer is a decent escort, kinda slow. You can make it one of the best escorts in the game, but you need yes or yes the temporal warfare set, so add 600 lobi's to the joke, plus fleet antiproton weapons and... well, the wells to remove its horrible console and put in it the well's console.


    I have both and that's what I can say.


    I don't have the dominion carrier but the idea of having neglected something cause I don't own the bugship would push me back. Also, Recluse is way better...
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lter wrote: »
    Wells Temporal Sci Vessel, the best for me. It can go back in time and that's so badass that automatically wins for the cool. Best lock-box console ever! Also best Sci Vessel so far imho. The bugship of the sci's, good option for a tac too.

    Mobius Temporal Destroyer is a decent escort, kinda slow. You can make it one of the best escorts in the game, but you need yes or yes the temporal warfare set, so add 600 lobi's to the joke, plus fleet antiproton weapons and... well, the wells to remove its horrible console and put in it the well's console.


    I have both and that's what I can say.


    I don't have the dominion carrier but the idea of having neglected something cause I don't own the bugship would push me back. Also, Recluse is way better...

    recluse is only better for healing/tanking in pvp, and thats pretty much it.
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    phoenicius wrote: »
    recluse is only better for healing/tanking in pvp, and thats pretty much it.

    Or to slot it elite mesh weavers and blow tac cubes in ten seconds...

    PEdit: but if we're talking about PVE here, I'd say go with the one that looks better for you...
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lter wrote: »
    Or to slot it elite mesh weavers and blow tac cubes in ten seconds...

    yes, a recluse can blow up a tac cube in 10 secs, i know you're exaggerating, but come on...

    the JHDC has waaay higher damage potential in PvE.

    you can't melt a gateway in about 15 secs with a recluse like a JHDC can, even with elite mesh weavers.
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    phoenicius wrote: »
    yes, a recluse can blow up a tac cube in 10 secs, i know you're exaggerating, but come on...

    the JHDC has waaay higher damage potential in PvE.

    you can't melt a gateway in about 15 secs with a recluse like a JHDC can, even with elite mesh weavers.

    Well, with the recluse you can stack several attack pattern betas in that gateway and tear it appart with a blow... Anyway, yes, jhdc has a priori better output damage, but reducing the recluse as a pvp healer just cause its, in fact, the best healer boat so far, is inacurate. A ship with such layout (only ship with universal commander so far, if im not wrong...) and such pets, its mostly flying flexibility...

    Edit: But yes, probably when I said recluse being 'way better' I was exagerating.
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lter wrote: »
    Or to slot it elite mesh weavers and blow tac cubes in ten seconds...

    PEdit: but if we're talking about PVE here, I'd say go with the one that looks better for you...
    lter wrote: »
    Well, with the recluse you can stack several attack pattern betas in that gateway and tear it appart with a blow... Anyway, yes, jhdc has a priori better output damage, but reducing the recluse as a pvp healer just cause its, in fact, the best healer boat so far, is inacurate. A ship with such layout (only ship with universal commander so far, if im not wrong...) and such pets, its mostly flying flexibility...

    Edit: But yes, probably when I said recluse being 'way better' I was exagerating.

    flexibility in terms of healing/tanking, but when it comes to damage dealing(which is unfortunately king in PvE) it has to sacrifice part of its tanking/healing for the sake of damage.

    so yeah the recluse can stack betas and help the team tear apart a certain target, but the JHDC doesn't actually need a team to easily tear apart stuff in pve.

    amusingly a JHDC and recluse can together cause enourmous ammounts of damage to pretty much anything in an STF.
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