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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    According to the DEV blog,

    Hey then, that's simple enough...link it.

    How about I link this?

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=231746

    Release Notes - September 15, 2011

    B'rel Retrofit Updates
    o Heals and Heal over Time powers will no longer decloak your ship
    o Enhanced Battle cloak will only be suppressed for 3 seconds when you activate an attack or heal on another target.

    ^--- blipping

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=260894

    Release Notes: March 15, 2012

    Updated debuff science and related powers, like Jam Sensors and Tractor Beam, so they can be used while the B'rel Retrofit is under an Enhanced Cloak.
    o These abilities cannot be used while under a standard or battle cloak.

    ^--- case somebody complains about them

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=561031

    Release Notes: February 21, 2013

    Engineering Team no longer cancels beneficial effects/modes such as Enhanced Battle Cloak and Guramba Siege Mode.

    ^--- yep, even fixed that

    How about going back further, eh?

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=188120

    Release Notes - November 12, 2010

    B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
    o Special ability: Enhanced Battle Cloak. This ship can use mines and torpedoes while remaining cloaked, as well as most Bridge Officer and Captain abilities.

    Don't get me wrong, I've complained about EBC in the past as well - when it was broken. Back when the Sub BOFFs were causing the B'rel not to blip.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=607321

    Release Notes: April 4, 2013

    Updated Bridge Officers with Subterfuge:
    o Using a Bridge Officer with Subterfuge on a ship using Enhanced Battle Cloak will no longer result in the ship no longer decloaking while it fires.

    So er...maybe you can link that dev blog for us?
  • masterkeychnk5masterkeychnk5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    snoge00f wrote: »
    To those who hate cloakers:

    Use the nebula commander ship console (to snoop), dampening field, polarize hull (when tractored), subspace field modulator, BFI, prebuff other heals.

    The biggest strength of these ships is also their biggest weakness, if they can't move they are dead. They have no heals.

    What means prebuff? LOL
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] I am not Snakie, MT is!
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited August 2013
    What means prebuff? LOL

    'Pre-buffing' means you keep cycling your defensive abilities even when out of combat. Works best if you don't have predictable, obvious weaknesses in your defensive screen. It's definitely recommended for cruisers.
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well then you would be ONE of the very few.

    As for the person who made the comment of: You know you can heal from cloak, right? EBC? B'rel and T'varo.

    And if you were there - then you would have known that I was part of the conversation. You would have seen the discussion on being able to heal from cloak with the B'rel and T'varo...that they blip. You would have seen Logan even checking that you blip while using HE...cause he blipped when he used HE on me...like I blipped when using HE on him.

    BTW a lot of BLIPPING IN THERE.

    According to the DEV blog, The Healing of using HE, was suppose to be SELF TARGETING for the Brel while cloaked to help with their LOW hull strength. That why other ships can only throw tac team. (not really heal but I think this is wrong to) If your are cloaked you do not throw any heals cause it should bring you OUT of cloak. Period. Using HE on another ship is what Branflakes said would NEVER HAPPEN. Cause it would allow people to do stealth healing in PVP. The glitch was reported not to get anyone in trouble. I think Logan is a very capable player, and he has earned my respect. The HE allowance was made for the brel to SELF HEAL cause of their FIRE WHILE CLOAKED ability. Which means it should be a target self only. The impact of this ability being used like this is think of a PVP put two capital ships in combat with three science brels, using heals to heal other ships with transpahic loads and sub nuke'ing from cloak. The other team, this is an UNREAL and unfair advantage. for the other 90 of the players who do not have a brel or Tvaro. It has long been the addiction, of the Klingon faction to use the Brel, which has a lower hull strength cause of inherited abilities of firing while cloak. In fact I would say 90-95% of the Klingon populace flies a VERSION of a BoP. I am not saying that there are NO people that fly other ships. And god strike me down in the morning but atleast Tacticus stays away from bops cause it is so OVER USED. Now let me ask why, in the past you klinks have been given quite a few ships and you complaine about not having ships, then why do you all (as a majority) keep using a BoP? You keep choosing the Brel with a lower hull strength cause of it's abilities. here is my thinking. Take a teenager learning to drive.
    You show him a sports car that goes 250 MPH. And a SUV, that is fairly okay looking but good breaks and a stronger frame. If the teenager takes off in the sports car making the choice over speed then protection, if he brakes FAIL, due to design, or fault. Then who is responsible. The teen is right? Cause he made the choice. Especially if he knows the facts about both cars. So per example, you guys CHOOSE the brel. You choose the hull strength for a certain reason. most the ability to fire while cloaked, or power sliding it, or that every Bridge officer station it is Universal. God I wish I had that on fed ships, you would NEVER know what you would be facing!!! Ohh look a Sovereign... a tac ship.... Hey what the heck!!! it just used gravity well 3 on me!!! Ohh Hey look a nebula... a science ship.... What the HECK it just used BO 3 with Dem 2 and can see me while cloaked!!!!
    now this business between Nitux, and Diana. Did the rest of you know that nixtux was put on ignore by Diana? After she washed his hands of him, that he CREATED a new account so he could logon and Send her a tell about a video he made to TRIBBLE her off?
    I could be wrong but that is harassment after someone ignored them. Then made it a point to keep coming after them as they tried to stay away. Gentlemen. If your looking to give Nixtux a comfort for his hurt feelings, then you go right ahead. But do remember this. If you endorse his actions, then in the real world you might as well have done it yourself.
    Sir Edmund Burke once said: All evil needs to flourish is for good men to do nothing!
    Which one of you are going to be a man to say that you would let bad things happen to a person? Are you the ones that would not stop an injustice? Would you say it okay to purposely try to hurass someone. It okay, that after they tried to end it for once and for all that you perpetuate it. Gentlemen if you answer yes tat it is. Then you should be ashamed of yourself. I have never known a nicer person then Diana. I have had the pleasure of meeting her one time in real life. She literally would help anyone. There is no person that has earned my respect more then Diana. Helping people, giving her time and effort, helping players even on her by giving them money, exsplaining their gear to them and how it should work. Even from her real life in the US army is amazing. but you guys never thought about it did you? The person that is fighting for what is right every day. And you would simple try to punish her by supporting someone who made it HIS goal to make them upset no matter what the cost? FOR SHAME ON YOU. I know most of you reading this are now considering some serious things. Yes the truth is this: There is her side. And there is his side. A lot of the actual truth lies in the middle. but I have seen both sides of this. THE TRUTH lies on her side gentlemen. And if you hadn't noticed the man Mr. Nixtux hasn't denied any of the charges of being banned, OR being kicked from his fleet for cheating. So which are YOU going to back.
    -Sincerely, DH

    The B'rel has been able to target others with hazard emitters since before Brandon started working for PWE, so I have no idea what you are going on about. It is one of the features of the B'rel/T'varo and I do believe it causes them to drop their cloak for an instant when they use it on others just like engineering or science team, which also heal others and can be targeted from a cloaked B'rel.

    I know that English is probably not your first language but in our language it is important to use things such as punctuations and paragraphs.
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  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited August 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    unless definitions have changed, thats just cycling, or sustaining.

    pre-buffing was more to do with offensive abilities stacking the long uptime abilities first so that your first attack was as powerful as could be thanks to having 'pre-buffed' the attack.

    Maybe I'm just attaching the wrong definition to the word, I dunno. I've heard 'pre-buffing' being used as a way to repel de-cloak attacks, so I assumed it was the whole 'keep defensive abilities up while not being attacked', in order to both deter cloaked ships and to make it harder for them to kill you if they do actually attack.
    tIqIpqu' 'ej nom tIqIp
  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well I hate to say this, but Mr, Nixtux. Why did your old fleet kick you out? Wasn't it cheating? Ohh and you got banned once before by cryptic, wasn't it cheating? And you go in and record video of the people and post them like an adolescent child to show ohh look I killed them. You know if your ALL that.... Why don't you I don't know Post some of you dieing. it seams that you came in here to cry on the forum's WHOA is me I might get sued. if you didn't do anything wrong why ya ******** here? I see this... Everytime I been in Kerrat, you belittle people you then launch and do your little trick, then run off. I see why Diana's is irritated with you. Also why all the others in the game in kerrat dislike you as well. You sir waste your time here. You waist your time irritating people. Sir, I dare say you were probably a waist of time when your parents gave birth to you. Do not look for sympathy here. So when even the klink has been known to tell us your position and your Friend what his name mactrader... or whatever... Cause they ALL HATE YOU that much more. I would be more worried about that the law suit deals with. I saw you aggitate the issue. I saw you post the video on youtube as well. If it had been anywhere else except you hiding behind this game, then sir you would have already been in jail. The list of people that dislike you cause of your attitude is a realization of the seeds you sent with your attitude LIES, and treatment of others. Do me a favor Sir. there a French saying: Ferme ta bouche. SHUT YOUR MOUTH, and you might get people to one day respect you again.

    I am wondering what fleet I was kicked from?

    Let me recap my fleets for you. My first fleet was Tribble munchers in Feb 2010. I left that because it was dead. I joined Alpha Squadron in mid-2010. I left that fleet as with many PVPers who had disagreements with some of the leadership/pveers.

    I joined -X- at the end of 2010 and in the absence of the original leadership started -X-Treme. Upon their return the leadership was put to me. So I am a leader in -X-. A fleet that was around since Launch.

    So what is this fleet that I was kicked from?

    As far as my post, it's pointing out that people abuse reporting. If that troubles you, I am sorry. But this is a game and it should be fun.

    I believe in fun, but I don't take it lightly when myself and friends are harassed.

    As far as my birth goes, the only thing my mom said was, "sad I couldn't vote for President Reagan." Shame on me for being born on election day.
    snoge00f wrote: »
    lol what a crybaby. I guess that guy doesn't know how to prebuff or snoop cloakers.

    Been in several private matches with you and it's always a pleasure when I get a kill. It takes works though and is always fun.

    -It's Andrew, he's a well known tool/troll, few people take notice of him, Why are you?
    -Why make a forum post? It just creates pointless drama that you loathe yet enjoy fostering.
    -This is naming & shaming, and thus will get banned anyway.
    -Cake.

    It's not about drama. It's pointing out the BS with the reporting system.
    -X-/Pandas - Pheo
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    FOR SHAME ON YOU. I know most of you reading this are now considering some serious things. Yes the truth is this: There is her side. And there is his side. A lot of the actual truth lies in the middle. but I have seen both sides of this. THE TRUTH lies on her side gentlemen. And if you hadn't noticed the man Mr. Nixtux hasn't denied any of the charges of being banned, OR being kicked from his fleet for cheating. So which are YOU going to back.
    -Sincerely, DH

    I don't play the Service card in a game. It's nice for a discount at the grocery store though.

    This is a game. Thanks.
    -X-/Pandas - Pheo
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I don't play the Service card in a game. It's nice for a discount at the grocery store though.

    This is a game. Thanks.

    How much is it anyway? I always wondered.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
    A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre.
    2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    How much is it anyway? I always wondered.

    I mostly shop at a local grocery store and they provide 10% over memorial, Independence day, and Veterans day. Still cheaper shopping at walmart.

    Community is a cheat though. It cost more but at least you trust the people providing it.
    -X-/Pandas - Pheo
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well I hate to say this, but Mr, Nixtux. Why did your old fleet kick you out? Wasn't it cheating? Ohh and you got banned once before by cryptic, wasn't it cheating? And you go in and record video of the people and post them like an adolescent child to show ohh look I killed them. You know if your ALL that.... Why don't you I don't know Post some of you dieing. it seams that you came in here to cry on the forum's WHOA is me I might get sued. if you didn't do anything wrong why ya ******** here? I see this... Everytime I been in Kerrat, you belittle people you then launch and do your little trick, then run off. I see why Diana's is irritated with you. Also why all the others in the game in kerrat dislike you as well. You sir waste your time here. You waist your time irritating people. Sir, I dare say you were probably a waist of time when your parents gave birth to you. Do not look for sympathy here. So when even the klink has been known to tell us your position and your Friend what his name mactrader... or whatever... Cause they ALL HATE YOU that much more. I would be more worried about that the law suit deals with. I saw you aggitate the issue. I saw you post the video on youtube as well. If it had been anywhere else except you hiding behind this game, then sir you would have already been in jail. The list of people that dislike you cause of your attitude is a realization of the seeds you sent with your attitude LIES, and treatment of others. Do me a favor Sir. there a French saying: Ferme ta bouche. SHUT YOUR MOUTH, and you might get people to one day respect you again.

    Oh and I found this Gem from my recent upload.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ITrux2k0hg&t=1m53s

    Hai
    -X-/Pandas - Pheo
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited August 2013
    Oh and I found this Gem from my recent upload.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ITrux2k0hg&t=1m53s

    Hai

    The T'Varo is definitely a beast :)

    I suspect you've got a Marion Dulmur doff on that? That doff's on my wish-list, it would make my cannon barrage after BO3 a bit more effective :P
    tIqIpqu' 'ej nom tIqIp
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