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jimipaige
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I would like to ask that after spending $50.00 on the new Scimitar that you add the Romulan ship inside environment to it. Don't get me wrong I love what you have done but 2 rooms doesn't cut it however cool they are.
Please please put a Romulan ship innards and a turbolift onto what is already there. This is my first and only gripe.
BTW I have played City of Heroes, Villains, DC Universe and I love Cryptic!
Please please put a Romulan ship innards and a turbolift onto what is already there. This is my first and only gripe.
BTW I have played City of Heroes, Villains, DC Universe and I love Cryptic!
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In the future perhaps
Annnnd, they're gonna start losing money because no one wants to spend fifty bucks on a half assed product.. Cryptic has gone from doing full and sometimes unique interiors ( like on the Oddy ) to well, your two room excuses where everything is done through a console. Not even the screens are animated properly any more.. The thing i see is that The federation got full interiors. Some really nice ones too. the klingons got some interiors but not as full as the federation ships. Still, they were pretty decent. then the drop box ships came along. Ships you end up paying several months of work or hundreds of dollars for, and they aint got squat.. Those ships became so popular i guess that by the time the romulans came along they decided that one interior was good enough ( I mean really Cryptic. Every Romulan ship has the identically same bridge except the scimi.. C'Mon.. How stupid do you think we are?? ), and that interior has no doffs no trophy wall, hardly anything except the giant Omega 13 drive unit from Galaxy Quest. I believe that Omega 13 says just how seriously Cryptic takes its Romulan players. We'll never see full interiors on Romulan ships or any others that arent their precious federation.
no real Romulan Faction, no real interiors. Just a lot of pretty dangling baubles with no value whatsoever. Beads for the dumb injuns. Really pisses me off.
Scimitar was their best selling ship to date.
Seems interiors don't mean as much as you'd like them too.
Also, the romulan Interior is pretty freaking awesome. Especially the Singularity core. Much better than the lame box on a wall that was shown on TNG. Sure, it would be nice to have some trophy slots, but honestly thats my only complaint. Don't really need a selection of dozens of horrible bridges the size of arena football stadiums.
Next time you playing, take a good look around. Count just how many scimitars they are flying around...
Yeah, the vast majority of people couldn't care less about the interior.
I think it would be nice if the door at the back of the thalaron chamber was a turbolift to the rest of the romulan ship interior, though. Surely that wouldn't be a collosal stretch of resources. But even then, i never looked around the interior before i flew the scimmy, but until there is actually something to do in there...
This... why devote time/resources on something that isn't used by the overwhelming majority. If there were reasons we needed to be on the ship interior, I'd be all for it.
Seriously, the bridge i spend the most time on is the Shuttle Brdige for quick ship swaps. Used to spend a lot of time on the Tuffli (when I was chasing the doffing game)... i visit a Cell Ship once in a while... but really other than that... yeah not so much.
I would prefer the artists spend time designing new maps, that the content folk, or foundry folk could utilize.
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
Wait, there's an interior in my Scimitar?
In all honesty, I have never been inside the thing. I've never had reason to, and frankly I just don't care. She works fine on the outside and TRIBBLE still blows up when I aim my guns at it. So... It's fine to me.
that costs the price of a new game.
The inside of a ship should be like a captains home away from home but the scimitar is so barren it's like a ware house with a few props in it. They didn't even get the bridge right the two pilots in the front are suppose to be in chairs not standing.:rolleyes: Not to mention the lighting is way off.
I'd really love if they went over it again and fixed it up and added things like a ready room , hanger and captains quarters. Given how many people bought them they should at least consider trying to give their customers the quality they deserve rather than jumping to the next quick buck.
this, times a thousand. we PAID for it. The Bortusqu has an interior, The Odyssey has an interior, the Armitage has an interior, nearly every pay ship i know of has an interior. Full interiors. and there are several klingon and Federation Bridge sets as well. I dont care if you people want to use them or not, We Paid for a full Ship, and thats what we deserve.
Well, it isnt a bonus. Cryptic soends lots of money making those interiors, and as a corporation, isnt in the business of giving out freebees. Like I said, I dont care if people use it or not, care or not, we PAID for it. Plain and simple..
Oh really?? Then please explain the Omega 13 drive on all Romulan ships, the hydroponics section as well and on the fed ships the lounge area, and on the klingon ships, the mess halls..
Please.. Cryptic makes things up all the time.. They ARE artists after all..
Show us where, in any description of these ships, we were told they came with full interiors. Until you can do that (hint: you can't) then I submit that we were promised no such thing, so you did NOT, in fact, pay for it. The expectation was all in your heads. The Andorian ships do not have full interiors, either, so this policy change was already in place; it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone. As for "Cryptic soends (sic) lots of money making those interiors" - yes... and they don't, in and of themselves, provide any useful return to them for the investment. The ships themselves are where the money is at, for them. Better to spend their resources elsewhere, from their perspective.
really?/ no useful returns? none at all? simply because you and that dude up there dont use them?? I think you'll find a good number of us in fact DO use them. However, of all those people who use them, i seem to be the only idiot who isnt afraid to speak up and continue in spite of the corporate sycophants infesting this forum.
i think the romulan ship interior is a good indicator which way ship interiour is headed: much smaller and with less customize options. (less resource cost for the dev team)
a bridge/interiour i would love to see anyway is the TNG interiour...10 forward, engine room, transporter room, captains quarters (certain accolades should be visible there, like on the romulan interiour)
I am pretty sure one of the biggest problems with the TOS ship is that it isnt tier 5.
As for why I haven't bought a bridge pack yet is that I think they are all are horrible. There needs to be more bridges that have a place for the commander to sit. I also think the helm officer should always have a place to sit.(on fed ships)
Basically a 3d preview where you can explore the bridge before you buy it would be a great way to encourage people to buy one. I personally would buy great designed interiors and bridges.
Number 2: If you want an interior you can go to the ship customizer and chose the standard ROmulan bridge and you will get the standard Romulan interior with it.
I for one do say the same thing. The Scimitar bridge does need to have a Ready Room, the Theleron Room and the option of going to the Crew Deck and the Engineer Deck. We paid $50.00 US, we shouls have the option of going to the other decks.
Yup.. You can go to different decks, use different bridge sets, all sorts of things on the corvette.. And all it cost me was a couple hours of time. Since other ships in the same price range have this capability and since they were created previously to the release of this product and therefore set the precedent for it, the Scimitar should follow suit, and have it also..
I like interiors every now and then for some rp...but op this is how many people think...I highly doubt there are bunches of people saying *I wont buy that ship because it doesn't have a full interior.*
I would like to see them expand the interiors that are pretty much a bridge but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Sure you get a fancy animation but is an adjustment of the wings worth another 35 dollars short answer no but because we're fans we'll pay anyways.
Yes this is their game and they can charge what ever they want heck if they wanted to they could charge 100 dollars for a ship and still some people would pay because we're insane fans but that doesn't make it right.
I could buy me an actual solid physical metal miniature army for that price. Not only that but aside from the initial cost of make the model it cost them nothing to make more , no packaging , no shipping , no nothing , sounds like a sweet deal yes? but that's not enough apparently for them now they don't even feel like completing the job and justify it by saying we're making other stuff to sell you.
I'm sorry cryptic but you are exploiting us , I can except that , but I hope you'll look into your hearts and try not to make it so painfully obvious.:(
I don't know why people fall back on this dumb defense all the time , given technically we're not entitled to anything short of a binding contract. They could make the Enterprise a giant flying rubber ducky and we still wouldn't be entitled to have it returned to normal but that doesn't mean we have to like it.;)
Well I call it dumb because entitlement is subjective so you saying we're not entitled to something because you say so is an arbitrary statement that tries to force your own beliefs upon others.
This is true but people are going to tend to feel slighted when one side gets something for the same price that the other factions don't. I mean Romulans don't even have a selection for internal layouts like the other factions. I can't speak for everyone but I was hoping at least with this we might get another option.
We're no more entitled than the Klingons demanding actual missions for their faction but if we don't speak up we won't get squat. Did the Klingons deserve 50 missions maybe not but the players certainly thought so.
Well I don't know if you would call it a ready room exactly but we do see the room where Shinzon cuts himself that later Picard flies through the window. We also see the hanger , the halls , the medical bay/lab and the room where Shinzon mind **** Troy so that is false there is no need to make stuff up. As I said before they didn't even get the bridge right which is just insulting how little effort was put into this.
Well I can live with a few hard point changes after all things could have been modified over the years it's not the exact same ship Shinzon flew.
Well I'm not saying it would have to be a whole ship but at the least they could do is add the rooms we see in the movie to give it some level context. I suspect the designer was just handed a single picture or schematic and told to make this and wasn't even required to watch footage from the movie.:rolleyes:
I think at least one full unique inside per faction is not that much to ask. Though I'll admit I wouldn't mind having Gorn , Nausican , Vulcan , Caitian and Orion interiors in the game.
If it's so pointless then why did they even bother making a Scimitar bridge hmm? They could have saved money and time by just adding the default bridge. For the same reason they added the Scimitar bridge in the first place or for the same reason you complain about the firing points. They're selling a fantasy to us and I think for the price they're asking of us they should provide a more complete one. Thanks to the success of Legacy of Romulus they've not only done very well for themselves but hired more people on. A success I might add was due to the funding of Romulan pay checks.
Just put the engineer officer in the hanger bay seems like a place an Engineer would hang out repairing fighters and shuttles , there problem solved. For the med bay use the lab in the show. Duty officers? Put an Npc in the room with the large window. It's not that hard to find a spot anything left over can be left on the bridge.
I don't know what you are talking about here it should be a simple matter of moving one npc or console from one place to another.
Well at least they have some selection Romulans got nothing.
People don't like interiors yet they continue to make unique bridges something doesn't add up here. If it wasn't a selling point they wouldn't have even bothered building those. People may not want to pay directly for a bridge but when it's part of the package deal it's certainly an incentive to buy a ship. Are you seriously saying that if they added a unique layout to say a D'deridex that wouldn't influence your decision in anyway to buy it over a ship that did not. I know it would for me it may not be the deciding factor but it certainly would be insensitive.
Seems like I started a TRIBBLE storm here. I am glad this is a good forum to express how we feel about ship interiors. As far as I am concerned it's the only drawback in the Scimitar. Someone said above that it was designed that way because all we saw in NEMESIS was the bridge and flight deck. Brother you need to watch the movie again. The bridge DOES NOT look like cannon. At least it has an extra level. What we were given was very poor quality. The thalaron room is somewhat reminiscent of the movie and is adequate although Picard killed Schinzon with a flagpole there and even these were left out (now how hard could that be to include?
This being said.... After giving 50.00 for a ship I did expect a fully complete Romulan ship with a singularity room, ships mess and sickbay, etc. etc. Although this was not the case, I would actually pay extra for a good (GOOD) interior as this is my final ship for my Rommie toon. (Heck, finish the ship and charge us an extra $10.00) Just like the 1701D Fleet exploration refit was the final ship for my Fed. main toon.
I feel I was actually short changed by the interior of the Scimitar. Example is the Oddesey and D'Deridex (sp). Great bridge etc. I am no programmer but how hard could it be to add say the D'Deredax (sp) interior to the Scim and leave the bridge/thalaron room in?
I really feel the Scimitar was not fully completed when it was introduced. Hell I don't even have a ready room on it. 2 rooms on a capitol ship? C'mon guys.
I really like the Scimitar other than the interior (where are the other 2993 people? if memory serves) and the fact that it is getting increasingly problematic to get in and out of a parking space say at DS-9. I have to wiggle to get out of parked space. I still feel the Scimitar should be bigger (but this is moot). Remember in Nemesis when compared to the Enterprise it was huge. Another thing I have noticed is that the thalaron use does not do enough damage. Again in Nemesis it was THE weapon (even the Klingon's and the Romulan's had agreed not to use those or subspace weapons ((nudge, wink)). Also when used in an elite STF by the Rommie Borg you get hit with Thalaron at all, you will see the poof screen even through 2 sets of shields and a shield battery. I tried it just to see if it would work. The highest I personally have seen from a thalaron punch was 30k damage.
To the person that was griping about the weapons hardpoints. I think it is very cool the emitters come from several points on the ship although it may be a tad off (and the graphics when using the Thalaron device is very cool). I had not noticed it until I read your post. I am specifically griping about the interior. The other things are collateral.
Cryptic...you want a few more bucks? Put some full interiors in the C store. I got my Paypal account memorized. I also guarantee that if you offer complete (COMPLETE) interiors in the C store and not just different bridges they would sell and probably sell well (might deserve to devote 1 or 2 programmers full time to this for awhile).
So what's next? Nero's ship? I can see it being the size of a small moon and having nothing but a bridge. (hmmm where do we put that Vulcan ship? The one that is already in the game and has to actually fly out of Nero's ship) Try parking Nero's ship at ESD, DS-9, or New Romulus...:eek:
Well Cryptic? I'm waiting...
Right now what does it matter if you have an interior or not?
It doesn't right now....thus you will have to sit back and be patient.
They wont respond to this thread because this is something they are looking into and the non-disclosure agreements they have prevent them from commenting too much about future content or things they are working on.
Also remember this item is considered more or less a luxury or rather non-important game item at this time. Thus it doesn't have the highest priority....how ever that doesn't mean they are not working on it....just means it will be a bit slower.
Right now their highest priority is getting the new iconian stuff done and some of their other planned items....in addition they are still working on a huge plethora of other items...a list I believe that was over 100 items long and listed in one of their state of game addresses from a while back.
I believe you can also see that ship interiors for new ships was on that list.
I also recall they did a timeline for specific features....so if you want to see what they are currently working on just go take a look at some of the old state of the game messages.
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