Couldn't get the things to come back once they disappeared while in combat.
Warped out and back in ... redeployed and they disappeared again once the initial combat encounter was over. It's like it may be bugged when they are supposed to "dock" or something. (although I never ordered it to do any such thing.
Nerf is as Nerf does. While I applaud the UI update itself, the reduction in fire power will cause most people to abandon playing carriers.
Fighter craft do no live long enough in combat to merit the nerf. By the time they have "offset" the penalty they will be dead.
And I also notice that once again the syphon drones remain nerfed into uselessness. Frankly I think we would be better off rolling back hanger pet changes to pre season 5 levels.
Nerf is as Nerf does. While I applaud the UI update itself, the reduction in fire power will cause most people to abandon playing carriers.
Fighter craft do no live long enough in combat to merit the nerf. By the time they have "offset" the penalty they will be dead.
And I also notice that once again the syphon drones remain nerfed into uselessness. Frankly I think we would be better off rolling back hanger pet changes to pre season 5 levels.
What I believe they are trying to do is force you into having to upgrade to the elite fighters found in fleets that have reached ... what ... Tier V?
But agree ... We will seldom see fighters reach Rank V if ever.
This is so good! I hadn't used fighters until recently so I had been wondering if there were easy ways to monitor their status and figure out when to redeploy them. This looks like it'll take care of that. Can't wait to try it out.
The damage nerf is disappointing so hopefully it's not too tough for them to make rank 2.
This is so good! I hadn't used fighters until recently so I had been wondering if there were easy ways to monitor their status and figure out when to redeploy them. This looks like it'll take care of that. Can't wait to try it out.
The damage nerf is disappointing so hopefully it's not too tough for them to make rank 2.
You should have been redeploying them everytime the cooldown ends before this patch. If you read the tooltip, it says auxiliary reduces the cooldown on launch bays. Put 2 and 2 together and it becomes clear that the more often you launch your pets, the more DPS you gain from them.
....of course, the new changes make the auxiliary cooldown reducing mechanic worthless. And thats no hyperbole.
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Can I make a suggestion? Since you guys made it where when summoning, it won't replace the fighter, can you make it where if you have a full compliment, that it will heal your pets instead. That way they stay longer in the fight? Maybe like the icon becomes a engineering team for the closet pet or something.
Now if only they would add a feature to the tailor that let us pick custom skins for the rest of our characters body(torso, leg, hands, feet) so we didn't have that awkward "HEAD ONLY" thing going on.
This update is great news since each of my Characters, minus on, owns a different carrier. I'm actually really excited about this update, and hope to hear more on the issue listed above since we now have Risan costume options.
Its nice to finally see some work done on this. Hopefully craft wont ignore the new commands as much as they ignore the old ones.
One question. Why cant we use this for separable ship modules as well? Give a hanger slot to all ships that separate, re-name it on the status screen and set the recharge to that of the separable ship module's ability, make said module irremovable, like the equipment on the enterprise-c.
Other then the time investment to implement is there a good reason not to give this level of controle to pets that are not small craft?
So ... the fact that the Jem' attack ship pets / frigates have a suicide run built into them (and the S'kull fighters) ... doesn't that mean they are likely to kill themselves before they can rank up?
Too bad this does not work on Saucers, Oddy and Bortasqu' escorts, and MVAM parts. Heck something like that might even make the Oddy and Bort useful again not to mention help out the ponderous Galaxy.
So ... the fact that the Jem' attack ship pets / frigates have a suicide run built into them (and the S'kull fighters) ... doesn't that mean they are likely to kill themselves before they can rank up?
Hm. Good point. If a s'kull fighter is working correctly, it will shoot stuff for minute or so and then ram right into it. How would one ever gain a rank? Do they wait five minutes before the kamakaze? Even then, it'd be impractical, as they'd most likely die before getting to use their strongest attack. Since the Khar'fi is the only carrier I use, it'd be cool to get some clarification here.
You said you will be boosting ai for ship consoles that have separation like the Galaxy and the Prometheus...I don't know if its been asked but would there be a chance for the ai of the ships spawned from Manheim Device will get a boost?
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Agree with previous posters. This is a great feature for carriers. Shame they aren't adding a little more for the Beautiful Odyssey which is the Federation Ship of the Line. While I love the new 2 and 3 piece bonus I wouldn't mind knowing when my Saucer section and/or Aquarius has gone down on the other side of the map.
Galaxy could use some help too.
*Ahem* what are the chances that we can get a *cough*hangar bay*cough* for the Odyssey ...basically largest Starfleet ship so I'm sure a ship or two will fit in there hehe.
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Shouldn't every ship that has a shuttle bay get a hanger slot?
What I think would be a good idea would be is to have all cruisers have 1 hanger slot. Any current ship in game with 1 hanger slot should be given 2, and any current ship with 2 hanger slots should be given 3.
That way, cruisers will get a little buff to make up for the lack of mobility and finally use their shuttle bays, and current carriers get their additional hanger slots so that they will remain as true carriers and nothing would be taken away from them with cruisers getting one hanger slot
Ooo, I see so many bugs happening from this. And what about the unfixed issues still in the game that seem to been ignored or sweept under the rug? Like Rom/Rem KDF Allied Daily mission bugs/missing. No Photonic Officer rewards for ranking up CXP & a good list of others
I actually like the part where carrier craft will avoid warp core explosions. No more of my own carrier craft exploding and killing my other carrier craft.
This a very welcome addition to the game. It should encourage players to use their carrier pets in a more intelligent and realistic manner rather than just as expendable waves. We might see a slight reduction in overall dps, but once players adapt to the new tactics, it doubt it'll make a huge difference in the fun of running a carrier.
I do wish to add my vote for a similar interface for other non-hanger pets (seperation modes, deployable craft etc.). It doesn't haver to be as involved, but being able to assign even simple commands or strategies (or even just the ability to reassign targets) would surely bump the appeal of those ships that use them.
Kamakazi pets aught to be given a slight tweak as well, to compensate for their shorter lifespans. How about adjusting their AI to only suicide once they'd achieved a certain minimum rank? Or perhaps if instead of suiciding automatically, they did so in response to a special bonus 'kamakazi' command?
Lastly, although Feds don't really need another true carrier (except maybe a Vulcan), you might as well throw Atrox players a bone and give them a frigate option. I'll probably never play an Atrox myself but it's the currently only true carrier that lacks one.
Kamakazi pets aught to be given a slight tweak as well, to compensate for their shorter lifespans. How about adjusting their AI to only suicide once they'd achieved a certain minimum rank? Or perhaps if instead of suiciding automatically, they did so in response to a special bonus 'kamakazi' command?
How about it be like the Abandon Ship ability? In other words, fighters would only suicide once their hull hit points drop below a certain level (25-35%).
How about it be like the Abandon Ship ability? In other words, fighters would only suicide once their hull hit points drop below a certain level (25-35%).
Well S'kuls are designed to kamikaze...though maybe with the JHAS can get rid of it and give them BO III!
Perhaps they will give the S'kuls a turret or something to compensate?
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Couldn't get the things to come back once they disappeared while in combat.
Warped out and back in ... redeployed and they disappeared again once the initial combat encounter was over. It's like it may be bugged when they are supposed to "dock" or something. (although I never ordered it to do any such thing.
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Fighter craft do no live long enough in combat to merit the nerf. By the time they have "offset" the penalty they will be dead.
And I also notice that once again the syphon drones remain nerfed into uselessness. Frankly I think we would be better off rolling back hanger pet changes to pre season 5 levels.
What I believe they are trying to do is force you into having to upgrade to the elite fighters found in fleets that have reached ... what ... Tier V?
But agree ... We will seldom see fighters reach Rank V if ever.
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The damage nerf is disappointing so hopefully it's not too tough for them to make rank 2.
Now give feds a true carrier!
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You should have been redeploying them everytime the cooldown ends before this patch. If you read the tooltip, it says auxiliary reduces the cooldown on launch bays. Put 2 and 2 together and it becomes clear that the more often you launch your pets, the more DPS you gain from them.
....of course, the new changes make the auxiliary cooldown reducing mechanic worthless. And thats no hyperbole.
Okay, at least they made sure to make it moveable. Thanks xelene13
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This update is great news since each of my Characters, minus on, owns a different carrier. I'm actually really excited about this update, and hope to hear more on the issue listed above since we now have Risan costume options.
One question. Why cant we use this for separable ship modules as well? Give a hanger slot to all ships that separate, re-name it on the status screen and set the recharge to that of the separable ship module's ability, make said module irremovable, like the equipment on the enterprise-c.
Other then the time investment to implement is there a good reason not to give this level of controle to pets that are not small craft?
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Hm. Good point. If a s'kull fighter is working correctly, it will shoot stuff for minute or so and then ram right into it. How would one ever gain a rank? Do they wait five minutes before the kamakaze? Even then, it'd be impractical, as they'd most likely die before getting to use their strongest attack. Since the Khar'fi is the only carrier I use, it'd be cool to get some clarification here.
Galaxy could use some help too.
*Ahem* what are the chances that we can get a *cough*hangar bay*cough* for the Odyssey
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What I think would be a good idea would be is to have all cruisers have 1 hanger slot. Any current ship in game with 1 hanger slot should be given 2, and any current ship with 2 hanger slots should be given 3.
That way, cruisers will get a little buff to make up for the lack of mobility and finally use their shuttle bays, and current carriers get their additional hanger slots so that they will remain as true carriers and nothing would be taken away from them with cruisers getting one hanger slot
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I do wish to add my vote for a similar interface for other non-hanger pets (seperation modes, deployable craft etc.). It doesn't haver to be as involved, but being able to assign even simple commands or strategies (or even just the ability to reassign targets) would surely bump the appeal of those ships that use them.
Kamakazi pets aught to be given a slight tweak as well, to compensate for their shorter lifespans. How about adjusting their AI to only suicide once they'd achieved a certain minimum rank? Or perhaps if instead of suiciding automatically, they did so in response to a special bonus 'kamakazi' command?
Lastly, although Feds don't really need another true carrier (except maybe a Vulcan), you might as well throw Atrox players a bone and give them a frigate option. I'll probably never play an Atrox myself but it's the currently only true carrier that lacks one.
Overall although, great works gals and guys.
The plural of 'craft' in the context of sea, air or space vehicle is 'craft', not 'crafts'.
One small craft, two small craft, a squadron of small craft.
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Protip2: Gut all photonics of all emotion software
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How about it be like the Abandon Ship ability? In other words, fighters would only suicide once their hull hit points drop below a certain level (25-35%).
Well S'kuls are designed to kamikaze...though maybe with the JHAS can get rid of it and give them BO III!
Perhaps they will give the S'kuls a turret or something to compensate?