We have enough cats in this game already. And though I am loathe to see any more furry races put into the game, surely there are more original or more interesting ones than cats? The Selay or Anticans, maybe?
I won't seriously play on the green side till we do get a feline species, and really, the fact that romside players can create aliens which look like any sort of crazy thing with no connection to romulans or remans, there is just no logical reason anyone could ever come up with why we shouldn't have them.
even if canon did have them in the fed during the tos era
easy way around that. Give the Romulans the Skorr. Give the Federation the Aurelians. It sounds a bit like the TAS creators, in trying to save budget, felt the two species could be from the same ancestral race. Developers can use the same wireframes, etc., due to the two species strong similarities.
I feel like for player races, we really ought to keep it relatively simple. Unique heads like Gorn have or tails like Caitians is one thing, but when we start talking about a hunched bird-like species with huge wings and very bird-like arms and legs, you're suddenly talking about a lot of character art to do, not to mention making either all the old uniforms work or all new ones specifically for the species. Then there's animations, like attacks and running, and the possibility of a limited flight animation being necessary... It's a ludicrous amount of work for what will, I guarantee, be a poor-selling item with limited appeal.
I refer back to the Selay and Anticans. You get your furry/scalie fix while remaining canon and not requiring silly amounts of extra work. The only issues would come from helmets, since these races have odd heads.
But I think I get what he/she is saying. Caitians don't actually change the feline build. They have arms and legs, but cats have them. A bird has wings instead of arms, so a bird with wings, arms and legs is a bit out of the "standard". But it's not that far fetched that an avian species that develops intelligence, and starts using tools could develop extra body members more suited for the task.
No, not odd. Catmen evolved from cats just as apemen evolved from ... apes. If Birdmen evolved from birds they would have legs and wings, but how are they going to build the starship? The wings could have evolved into arms of course.
So birdmen have a beak, feathers and that is it. You can't have both wings and arms. The creature on the picture in this thread comes from a griphon and that is a fantasy creature. They are the odd one out here.
Now we can have a discussion if STO/Startrek is a scifi or a sci-Fantasy universe and I admit that I have no definite answer to that.
No, not odd. Catmen evolved from cats just as apemen evolved from ... apes. If Birdmen evolved from birds they would have legs and wings, but how are they going to build the starship? The wings could have evolved into arms of course.
So birdmen have a beak, feathers and that is it. You can't have both wings and arms. The creature on the picture in this thread comes from a griphon and that is a fantasy creature. They are the odd one out here.
Now we can have a discussion if STO/Startrek is a scifi or a sci-Fantasy universe and I admit that I have no definite answer to that.
Several insects have both legs (several) and wings. So, nature on Earth shows us that legs and wings aren't out of the picture. Now, I know insects are extremely different from birds, but fiction is fiction.
EDIT: Obviously at least a pair of legs had to mutate to arms
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Lyrans are from the game "Star Fleet Battles", which is not even considered to be a Star Trek game even though it's based on Star Trek. The only reason SFC could use the Star Trek name was because Interplay cooperated with the company that runs Star Fleet Battles, called "Amarillo Design Bureau" on this venture and Interplay itself had the Star Trek license at the time.
So SFB is not even non-canon, it's not Star Trek. Even ADB's own "Prime Directive" contains a special chapter on this and it begins with the sentence "This is the Star Fleet Universe, not Star Trek."
Gryphon!
Though so far ground flying is only in the Risa Special event place, a Gryphon like race that would be a cross between bird and cat would be very Romulan faction like as it would keep with the factional balancing of character races while at the same time keep in tradition with the Romulan faction bird tradition.
You could have your factional compliant cat race with all the kitty bonuses Feds and Klinks have, while still keeping in tradition to the Romulan faction AND when player vehicles come out, have the bonus ability to fly in area's where ground flying will be permitted!
Ok, some of that last part was an assumption based on the possibility that Risa's new event area could be a testing ground for player flying and player vehicle for future ground content.
Assumptions aside, a Gryphon type race would be cool and consistent.
The Feds and the Klinks have starter race specific Cats.
Feds catians.
Klinks Ferasan.
Romulains? Future cats?
I'd rather not see more unrelated aliens for the Romulan faction, I mean why stop at cat people. Romulan gorn, benzites and bolians make just as much sense and at that point you can probably do away with factions altogether and simply allow anything to fly everything. Hirogen are the only ones that make (a little) sense to be playable Romulan allies considering the STO storyline.
I suppose if they did I'd have to make a Romulan cat named Mero.:P
I don't think the factions necessarily need to be exact mirrors of each other , Romulans are sorta xenophobic so it kinda makes sense they wouldn't have much Species diversity.
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KDF has cats and they also fly birds-of-prey.
seriously:
I like it.
joking:
I can picture it already
"This is Admiral Warbird of the Imperial Romulan Warbird, Warbird" (I have a Warbird named Warbird)
easy way around that. Give the Romulans the Skorr. Give the Federation the Aurelians. It sounds a bit like the TAS creators, in trying to save budget, felt the two species could be from the same ancestral race. Developers can use the same wireframes, etc., due to the two species strong similarities.
Neither do I support a Romulan faction sided cat race. We also don't have sexy barely dressed females and crocs in all factions.
So birdmen are fantasy, but catmen are not? Odd.
I refer back to the Selay and Anticans. You get your furry/scalie fix while remaining canon and not requiring silly amounts of extra work. The only issues would come from helmets, since these races have odd heads.
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But I think I get what he/she is saying. Caitians don't actually change the feline build. They have arms and legs, but cats have them. A bird has wings instead of arms, so a bird with wings, arms and legs is a bit out of the "standard". But it's not that far fetched that an avian species that develops intelligence, and starts using tools could develop extra body members more suited for the task.
No, not odd. Catmen evolved from cats just as apemen evolved from ... apes. If Birdmen evolved from birds they would have legs and wings, but how are they going to build the starship? The wings could have evolved into arms of course.
So birdmen have a beak, feathers and that is it. You can't have both wings and arms. The creature on the picture in this thread comes from a griphon and that is a fantasy creature. They are the odd one out here.
Now we can have a discussion if STO/Startrek is a scifi or a sci-Fantasy universe and I admit that I have no definite answer to that.
Several insects have both legs (several) and wings. So, nature on Earth shows us that legs and wings aren't out of the picture. Now, I know insects are extremely different from birds, but fiction is fiction.
EDIT: Obviously at least a pair of legs had to mutate to arms
Any new inclusion of races should be the Suliban, they are the most logical extension of the Republic at the moment.
But on the subject of the 'bird people', don't forget about the (extinct) Xindi Avians. So there can be at least, 'bird people'.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121030181852/startrek/images/6/65/Lyran.jpg
And their ships look cool too:
http://pcmedia.ign.com/media/news/image/sfleetcom007.jpg
Lyrans are from the game "Star Fleet Battles", which is not even considered to be a Star Trek game even though it's based on Star Trek. The only reason SFC could use the Star Trek name was because Interplay cooperated with the company that runs Star Fleet Battles, called "Amarillo Design Bureau" on this venture and Interplay itself had the Star Trek license at the time.
So SFB is not even non-canon, it's not Star Trek. Even ADB's own "Prime Directive" contains a special chapter on this and it begins with the sentence "This is the Star Fleet Universe, not Star Trek."
I know him. He hangs around Goldshire a lot.
Though so far ground flying is only in the Risa Special event place, a Gryphon like race that would be a cross between bird and cat would be very Romulan faction like as it would keep with the factional balancing of character races while at the same time keep in tradition with the Romulan faction bird tradition.
You could have your factional compliant cat race with all the kitty bonuses Feds and Klinks have, while still keeping in tradition to the Romulan faction AND when player vehicles come out, have the bonus ability to fly in area's where ground flying will be permitted!
Ok, some of that last part was an assumption based on the possibility that Risa's new event area could be a testing ground for player flying and player vehicle for future ground content.
Assumptions aside, a Gryphon type race would be cool and consistent.
I'd rather not see more unrelated aliens for the Romulan faction, I mean why stop at cat people. Romulan gorn, benzites and bolians make just as much sense and at that point you can probably do away with factions altogether and simply allow anything to fly everything. Hirogen are the only ones that make (a little) sense to be playable Romulan allies considering the STO storyline.
Aid in leading the Romulan Star Empire back to its former greatness.
Join the Romulan Praetorian Guard and teach those epohh loving hippies what it means to be a true Romulan!
I don't think the factions necessarily need to be exact mirrors of each other , Romulans are sorta xenophobic so it kinda makes sense they wouldn't have much Species diversity.