Devian just ignore him, hes gettign what he wants, everyone needs to report.
Now if you want to TRIBBLE talk a fleet, do it the right way, make your own thread, me and some fleets dont get along with my mega fleet, but i dont go into their threads and start ****. Its very immature.
You make some good points and it is true, Dental is probably the worst thing for this game.
Dental's history with Cryptic goes pretty far back. Indeed, it goes all the way back to the days of Professor David Myers. He ultimately founded Starfleet Dental when this game was released, but they also had several guilds in City of Heroes before STO.
Dental is bad for the game because of all the people that have been and will be helped by them. It's true.
The recruitment rewards for selectees who make the grade are indeed generous, but I can't help but wonder how the fleet maintains this. If they can, more power to them.
When I have encountered Starfleet Dental, it has always been overwhelmingly memorable in a novel way. I will attempt to describe these encounters in a manner fitting with forums terms of service (TOS).
Anthony Burgess wrote 'A Clockwork Orange' in 1962. Later in life, on the topic of notoriety he was quoted as saying, "We all suffer from the popular desire to make the known notorious.", whose meaning I believe fits the fleet in question.
They thrive on this engagement; a self jeu d'esprit that at times looks to lampoon the very rules we wrongfully believe the game holds. This is not your Daddy's Star Trek.
My first encounter was on the Klingon Homeworld. It was early in my first few months of the game. I was looking forward to the roleplaying aspect of a klingon, and the immersive nature of meeting the Klingon High Council for the first time. What I experienced could best be described as a mugging from 'A Clockwork Orange', and that became a deciding element in abandoning Klingon characters altogether.
My second encounter happened while I was pugging an elite STF. The fleet member in question spent the entire time doing an impression of the novel 'COMA'.
That impression was repeated time and again by other members of said fleet. This work of performance art was criticized roundly by the critics in each PUG, and it still leaves a somewhat 'schweaty' aftertaste as I recall it.
I can only accuse them of bad performance art that takes away from the quality of the game.
Note that nothing I am recounting here, either my recollections of their actions or my comments, is against the rules set out by Cryptic.
To say that membership in their organization is not something I would pursue, would be both valid and a direction I would advise for you.
I have never heard anyone say 'I didn't get what was promised' from Starfleet Dental. But before you apply, chat up other people to see how they are viewed by the community as a whole. Don't take my impressions as a valid opinion.
Ask around. That will solve any question you might have.
The recruitment rewards for selectees who make the grade are indeed generous, but I can't help but wonder how the fleet maintains this. If they can, more power to them.
If? How could we not. Many hands make light work, some of the hands are rather space rich. During one STF someone commented that there weren't any galors in team, which was rather surprising. I wasn't flying mine as I was in my bug ship instead. Due to the 1b ec cap we have stockpiles of lock box ships. The other thing to consider is what do you do when you have all the ships that you want, all the gear that you want and you need to set new goals.
I realise a lot of players won't relate to this but excess wealth from the long term players filters down to the newer players. Capitalism is used to fund socialism. Being greedy doesn't help a fleet as a whole. You see well equipped and well trained players make the content go faster which benefits everyone.
While you state "Note that nothing I am recounting here, either my recollections of their actions or my comments, is against the rules set out by Cryptic." You are quite incorrect. However, I don't file tickets against posts that aren't horrible.
You question was if we could do what we do. My question is why does your fleet not help new players with ec and multiple lock box ships?
I have never heard anyone say 'I didn't get what was promised' from Starfleet Dental. But before you apply, chat up other people to see how they are viewed by the community as a whole. Don't take my impressions as a valid opinion.
Never a truer word spoken, and something that any one would advise of any fleet. One thing I will mention here is "viewed by the community as a whole". This implies that you will find negative responses doesn't it.
However I am not a member of this fleet, I have played for over two years, and I am not a good player, and I have pugged. I am also a very passionate RP'er in short I am a "member" of this community.
I have never EVER seen any negative behaviour at all by this fleet, nothing at all that could incite this wholesale defamation and slander all over their recruitment thread. If your actions were a way to warn others away from them I am sad to say from a total unbiased opinion you have done the complete opposite.
Yes you have shown there are people in this community that you shouldn't even hazard to spend the time of day with, it's YOU. This thread fills me with a lot of feelings about this community that I didn't have previously, and many of them fill me with distaste. But my largest regret is that I cannot pin down the fleets or the people who have undergone this unhonourable hatchet job on a recruitment thread, so I can ignore you and warn others about your behaviour.
I also asked all the people in my fleet and many of them has either never heard of Starfleet Dental or didn't have any negative encounters with them at all. Strange then how they are SUCH a scourge on the community when all of us have no knowledge of this.
Recruits that find yourself here and are feeling like taking note of the uncharitable threads, here is a small piece of advice, take it or leave it as you wish.
Make your own opinion, and only ask people you trust. Be honest with yourself if you have had no negative dealings, nor have any of your friends...whose opinion is correct?
If the claims are true surely more of us would have been negatively impacted with them, and don't overlook the fact that the very behaviour they accuse this fleet of is apprent on this thread from them, yet not from the fleet in question.
Sarah
SSO Fleet Understands that this is a game, that it's sole purpose is to escape from the harsh realities of life. Thats why we promise, we offer fun, frolics without the mandatory rules and structure. Come escape with us, we dare you.....
To say that membership in their organization is not something I would pursue, would be both valid and a direction I would advise for you.
I have never heard anyone say 'I didn't get what was promised' from Starfleet Dental. But before you apply, chat up other people to see how they are viewed by the community as a whole. Don't take my impressions as a valid opinion.
Ask around. That will solve any question you might have.
I'm pointing out that this is a veiled attack. You ask people to get other opinions of us. There are a lot of terrible players which literally form the cluster of stupidity which is zone chat. If you ask zone chat for advice you are not cut out for Starfleet Dental.
There are also a number of disturbed individuals who want to attack Starfleet Dental because we are what they wish they could be.
Saying that I have never experienced [__ this __], therefore it can't exist is a very 16th century view.
My view maybe 16th centuary, but evidence actually means that which is seen, and so far I have seen a lot of supposition, opinions and rumours, and no substantiated evidence to show those of us who have never heard of this fleet in any negative aspect, anything to support your accusations and claims.
It's not up to the recruits to have to find the evidence that this fleet is worthy of the treatment it is gaining in it's recruitment thread, it's up to you people who insist on attacking them to prove and substantiate your reason if they are indeed valid.
Yet over 6 pages and nothing....
Recruits I think you can safely say that because of the lack of any substantiated evidence that there is another underlying reason for their behaviour that has nothing whatsoever to do with this fleet, it's members or it's reputation.
As for making your own decisions talk is cheap, if no one can give you cold, hard evidence...
Then you feel this fleet is right for you, by god, go for it, and don't let anyone disuade you otherwise.
SSO Fleet Understands that this is a game, that it's sole purpose is to escape from the harsh realities of life. Thats why we promise, we offer fun, frolics without the mandatory rules and structure. Come escape with us, we dare you.....
I post within the rules, as Starfleet Dental plays by the rules in the game.
I wholeheartedly agree that people should join your fleet. Expressing why they should not is a perfectly acceptable option.
People enjoy the immersive nature of the game. Some players have on occasion played in a manner that while was within the rules, took away from the Star Trek experience that many here like to enjoy.
In my case it was a repeated experience, and using the ignore option, I have avoided further instances of performance art. I hope to help others see that.
Withholding further comment is an option. Lets see how this progresses.
I am intrigued to say the least. STOL has been lacking something for me for quite some time and I think it's because I haven't flossed in a while. I would love to be a part of dental hygenic excellence, however it is a tough choice to leave my current Fleet where I put a lot of time and effort in to. Though, I really think SFD could really invigorate myself to this game and even possibly whiten my teeth.
*Okay I just watched the recruitment video... Magnum P.I. theme song?! Take my body now.
Unless I missed it... Please point the way to the nearest Starfleet Dental Clinic so I can apply.
To anyone looking to apply to Starfleet Dental at this time, please send a mail to Glutes@FrostyJones with your timezone and an average time range of when you will be on and I will get to you as soon as I can. Please be sure to include "Starfleet Dental Application Request" in your title.
Thank you for your interest in joining Starfleet Dental!
Once again, I ask all parties interested in joining Starfleet Dental please send a mail message to Glutes@FrostyJones titled "Starfleet Dental Application Request" as our application process has changed and I also manage other fleets.
Thank you for your interest in joining Starfleet Dental!
I am the Hand of Dear Leader, and I am here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
"No," says the man in San Francisco, "it belongs to the poor."
"No," says the man in Hathon, "it belongs to the Prophets."
"No," says the man in First City, "it belongs to the honorable."
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...
Dental.
A fleet where the child would not fear the ERPist,
where the firefighter would not be bound by pubbies,
where the great would not be constrained by the small.
And with the sweat of your brow, Dental can become your fleet, as well.
Comments
Now if you want to TRIBBLE talk a fleet, do it the right way, make your own thread, me and some fleets dont get along with my mega fleet, but i dont go into their threads and start ****. Its very immature.
I have submitted your request to the pool of recruiting officers. Someone should be in touch shortly.
Dental is bad for the game because of all the people that have been and will be helped by them. It's true.
When I have encountered Starfleet Dental, it has always been overwhelmingly memorable in a novel way. I will attempt to describe these encounters in a manner fitting with forums terms of service (TOS).
Anthony Burgess wrote 'A Clockwork Orange' in 1962. Later in life, on the topic of notoriety he was quoted as saying, "We all suffer from the popular desire to make the known notorious.", whose meaning I believe fits the fleet in question.
They thrive on this engagement; a self jeu d'esprit that at times looks to lampoon the very rules we wrongfully believe the game holds. This is not your Daddy's Star Trek.
My first encounter was on the Klingon Homeworld. It was early in my first few months of the game. I was looking forward to the roleplaying aspect of a klingon, and the immersive nature of meeting the Klingon High Council for the first time. What I experienced could best be described as a mugging from 'A Clockwork Orange', and that became a deciding element in abandoning Klingon characters altogether.
My second encounter happened while I was pugging an elite STF. The fleet member in question spent the entire time doing an impression of the novel 'COMA'.
That impression was repeated time and again by other members of said fleet. This work of performance art was criticized roundly by the critics in each PUG, and it still leaves a somewhat 'schweaty' aftertaste as I recall it.
I can only accuse them of bad performance art that takes away from the quality of the game.
Note that nothing I am recounting here, either my recollections of their actions or my comments, is against the rules set out by Cryptic.
To say that membership in their organization is not something I would pursue, would be both valid and a direction I would advise for you.
I have never heard anyone say 'I didn't get what was promised' from Starfleet Dental. But before you apply, chat up other people to see how they are viewed by the community as a whole. Don't take my impressions as a valid opinion.
Ask around. That will solve any question you might have.
Edit: The do have an awesome recruitment video
If? How could we not. Many hands make light work, some of the hands are rather space rich. During one STF someone commented that there weren't any galors in team, which was rather surprising. I wasn't flying mine as I was in my bug ship instead. Due to the 1b ec cap we have stockpiles of lock box ships. The other thing to consider is what do you do when you have all the ships that you want, all the gear that you want and you need to set new goals.
I realise a lot of players won't relate to this but excess wealth from the long term players filters down to the newer players. Capitalism is used to fund socialism. Being greedy doesn't help a fleet as a whole. You see well equipped and well trained players make the content go faster which benefits everyone.
While you state "Note that nothing I am recounting here, either my recollections of their actions or my comments, is against the rules set out by Cryptic." You are quite incorrect. However, I don't file tickets against posts that aren't horrible.
You question was if we could do what we do. My question is why does your fleet not help new players with ec and multiple lock box ships?
Never a truer word spoken, and something that any one would advise of any fleet. One thing I will mention here is "viewed by the community as a whole". This implies that you will find negative responses doesn't it.
However I am not a member of this fleet, I have played for over two years, and I am not a good player, and I have pugged. I am also a very passionate RP'er in short I am a "member" of this community.
I have never EVER seen any negative behaviour at all by this fleet, nothing at all that could incite this wholesale defamation and slander all over their recruitment thread. If your actions were a way to warn others away from them I am sad to say from a total unbiased opinion you have done the complete opposite.
Yes you have shown there are people in this community that you shouldn't even hazard to spend the time of day with, it's YOU. This thread fills me with a lot of feelings about this community that I didn't have previously, and many of them fill me with distaste. But my largest regret is that I cannot pin down the fleets or the people who have undergone this unhonourable hatchet job on a recruitment thread, so I can ignore you and warn others about your behaviour.
I also asked all the people in my fleet and many of them has either never heard of Starfleet Dental or didn't have any negative encounters with them at all. Strange then how they are SUCH a scourge on the community when all of us have no knowledge of this.
Recruits that find yourself here and are feeling like taking note of the uncharitable threads, here is a small piece of advice, take it or leave it as you wish.
Make your own opinion, and only ask people you trust. Be honest with yourself if you have had no negative dealings, nor have any of your friends...whose opinion is correct?
If the claims are true surely more of us would have been negatively impacted with them, and don't overlook the fact that the very behaviour they accuse this fleet of is apprent on this thread from them, yet not from the fleet in question.
Sarah
I'm pointing out that this is a veiled attack. You ask people to get other opinions of us. There are a lot of terrible players which literally form the cluster of stupidity which is zone chat. If you ask zone chat for advice you are not cut out for Starfleet Dental.
There are also a number of disturbed individuals who want to attack Starfleet Dental because we are what they wish they could be.
My view maybe 16th centuary, but evidence actually means that which is seen, and so far I have seen a lot of supposition, opinions and rumours, and no substantiated evidence to show those of us who have never heard of this fleet in any negative aspect, anything to support your accusations and claims.
It's not up to the recruits to have to find the evidence that this fleet is worthy of the treatment it is gaining in it's recruitment thread, it's up to you people who insist on attacking them to prove and substantiate your reason if they are indeed valid.
Yet over 6 pages and nothing....
Recruits I think you can safely say that because of the lack of any substantiated evidence that there is another underlying reason for their behaviour that has nothing whatsoever to do with this fleet, it's members or it's reputation.
As for making your own decisions talk is cheap, if no one can give you cold, hard evidence...
Then you feel this fleet is right for you, by god, go for it, and don't let anyone disuade you otherwise.
I wholeheartedly agree that people should join your fleet. Expressing why they should not is a perfectly acceptable option.
People enjoy the immersive nature of the game. Some players have on occasion played in a manner that while was within the rules, took away from the Star Trek experience that many here like to enjoy.
In my case it was a repeated experience, and using the ignore option, I have avoided further instances of performance art. I hope to help others see that.
Withholding further comment is an option. Lets see how this progresses.
All the best in your endeavours.
*Okay I just watched the recruitment video... Magnum P.I. theme song?! Take my body now.
Unless I missed it... Please point the way to the nearest Starfleet Dental Clinic so I can apply.
Thank you for your interest in joining Starfleet Dental!
what do i have to do or need to be to become a member?
I'll give 1000 disco balls to the next successful applicant.
Thank you for your interest in joining Starfleet Dental!
"No," says the man in San Francisco, "it belongs to the poor."
"No," says the man in Hathon, "it belongs to the Prophets."
"No," says the man in First City, "it belongs to the honorable."
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...
Dental.
A fleet where the child would not fear the ERPist,
where the firefighter would not be bound by pubbies,
where the great would not be constrained by the small.
And with the sweat of your brow, Dental can become your fleet, as well.
Shutup Wesley: First In Everything