I like the increase to finally change my pips to full "Admiral" (4 stars). That was what I wanted since the beginning of STO. Not 5 stars, butt 4 stars. I'm stuck at 3 stars since 2011 and we only had 2 stars up to that time. =D
Yes. That way, we can finally get to be 4-pip Admirals who spend their time mining dilithium or Nukara crystals by hand; taking mission orders from (and reporting to) lower-ranked officers; commanding single ships (not fleets); tagging Epohh, and other things that flag officers normally do.
commanding single ships (not fleets); tagging Epohh, and other things that flag officers normally do.
The sarcasm is general; nothing personal.
actually, its been talked about that one of the things they are thinking of adding to the game when they make full admiral rank is letting a couple of your other ships follow you around kind of like the space version of boffs.
dont ask for links to threads that mention these comments. my search-fu is weak. but it is most likely one of the reasons why they arent adding in a level cap increase yet. they havent finished with the system and it would likely be another major release (not on the size of LoR, but more along the lines of the crossfire patch) that we'd see something like this.
actually, its been talked about that one of the things they are thinking of adding to the game when they make full admiral rank is letting a couple of your other ships follow you around kind of like the space version of boffs.
dont ask for links to threads that mention these comments. my search-fu is weak. but it is most likely one of the reasons why they arent adding in a level cap increase yet. they havent finished with the system and it would likely be another major release (not on the size of LoR, but more along the lines of the crossfire patch) that we'd see something like this.
I have heard of this, and I would pay money not to have this feature. I don't think the AI that governs boffs is very smart, nor the AI that governs pets and photonic ships.
actually, its been talked about that one of the things they are thinking of adding to the game when they make full admiral rank is letting a couple of your other ships follow you around kind of like the space version of boffs.
dont ask for links to threads that mention these comments. my search-fu is weak. but it is most likely one of the reasons why they arent adding in a level cap increase yet. they havent finished with the system and it would likely be another major release (not on the size of LoR, but more along the lines of the crossfire patch) that we'd see something like this.
I hear you. Yes, I've seen some of that, like here in the STO Wiki: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Player_rank#Admiral_and_General. That would really be something else. Still, capabilities like that should be available to all flag-level ranks; maybe scaling the size of your "mini fleet" up as you level. Something like +1 ship at RA1/Brig Gen up to +4 ships at Admiral/General, for a total of 5 ships including the player's.
I don't think any higher ranks like Fleet Adm. and Dahar Master are necessary and would make even less sense that what we have now.
Instead of raising the level and getting closer to flying a damn desk while playing this new STO RTS, how about we get Alpha and Beta quadrants more opened up. How about we get Gamma and Delta opened up.
How about we finally get to explore the galaxy as JUST a Captain of a ship?
I didn't sign up for STO to be President or Chancellor or some damn Admiral flying a desk around with a bloody pack of ship escorts. I signed up to command 1 ship and 1 crew while flying around saving the galaxy.
I don't want to manage the happiness of my ships crew. I don't want to hang bloody curtains or paintings in my ready room. I don't want to spend hours discussing interior decorating or which color to paint the bloody damn nursery.
I want to be out among the stars warping from one system to the next exploring everything and everywhere I can.
I don't want more skill points. I have enough already. I don't need higher tiers of gear or more expensive ships. I have enough already. I don't need more damn pips on my collar or sleeve. I have enough already.
I want MORE adventures to see and to do with the ship and crew that I have. I want to stay in the Captain's chair of my ship.
I really do not want STO to become ST:EvE or ST:Sims or ST: RTS or ST:Cake Decorating 101.
Instead of raising the level and getting closer to flying a damn desk while playing this new STO RTS, how about we get Alpha and Beta quadrants more opened up. How about we get Gamma and Delta opened up.
How about we finally get to explore the galaxy as JUST a Captain of a ship?
I didn't sign up for STO to be President or Chancellor or some damn Admiral flying a desk around with a bloody pack of ship escorts. I signed up to command 1 ship and 1 crew while flying around saving the galaxy.
I don't want to manage the happiness of my ships crew. I don't want to hang bloody curtains or paintings in my ready room. I don't want to spend hours discussing interior decorating or which color to paint the bloody damn nursery.
I want to be out among the stars warping from one system to the next exploring everything and everywhere I can.
I don't want more skill points. I have enough already. I don't need higher tiers of gear or more expensive ships. I have enough already. I don't need more damn pips on my collar or sleeve. I have enough already.
I want MORE adventures to see and to do with the ship and crew that I have. I want to stay in the Captain's chair of my ship.
I really do not want STO to become ST:EvE or ST:Sims or ST: RTS or ST:Cake Decorating 101.
I don't want more skill points. I have enough already. I don't need higher tiers of gear or more expensive ships. I have enough already. I don't need more damn pips on my collar or sleeve. I have enough already.
I want MORE adventures
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I have no problem with a level cap increase so long as it does not have higher level gear and higher tier ships to go with it. It should remain Mk XII gear as top of the line and tier 5 ships at top of the line. Making everything become obsolete is just not something I would like.
If they want people to keep grinding for gear just keep adding new Mk XII stuff with different set bonus and stats. They want people to buy new ships just make them remain tier 5 with new consoles and slightly different stats and bridge officer slots.
"Don't let them promote you, don't let them transfer you, don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship. Because while you're there, you can make a difference."
"Don't let them promote you, don't let them transfer you, don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship. Because while you're there, you can make a difference."
That little interchange between Kirk and Picard was going thru my head as I put that little tirading rant together.
Lot of post here make a good point, people spend a lot of time building their ships and grinding the gear, but the thing is i'm bored of having hit the wall
I hit Vice Admiral in 2 weeks, thats just wrong, for starters hitting admiral is probably a bad idea anyway, theres far too many Flag officer zooming about the quadrant doing monotomus tasks, we should have remained captain ( one ship, one captain ) , maybe give some players an honorary rank of vice admiral if they genuinely are the better player , theres just no sense to making hundreds of people admirals, its like currency , the more there is the less value it has
I would welcome chance to go to the delta quad, the gamma quad, be an explorer ( instead of the joke of diplomacy/exploration missions we have now) , how about the game lets us sign up for a Exploration tour, your not aloud to return home till you finish it , but the rewards are BIG, unique , secret factions to meet , and ally with, reputation to build by speaking to people, and actions, not marks
I know what i've just requested is probably a ridiculously narrow minded request, and not valued dev investment of time/resources, more people want to rip into the borg not actually explore ( btw what a joke, they aren't even threatening anymore , remember when they used to be hard to beat?)
i get that it would be ridiculously hard to set up a amssive exploration world on the scale of an entire quadrant, but i really would like an alternative to the doing the same STF again and again, i have all the service medals, thats the donatras ship destoryed hundreds of times, its long since ceased to be fun
Also the number of people with alternative characters numbering into double figures , would suggest people are just not satisfied with 50 levels of progress , rep is just a time and dil sink , and i'm a sucker for participating in it
RANT ALMOST OVER , just one last thing to say, remember when starfleet used to explore the galaxy, also hasn't it been about 3 years since the war started, nobody seems to be winning, its almost like it doesn't even mean anything, wouldn't it be nice if from time to time, one side had an offensive, taking a few planets or sectors, opening up a Open PvP ZONE for a while , and some unique missions?
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I will add my voice to those who have already pointed it out.
Level cap increase is not what is needed. It's new endgame content that you are looking for my friend. Just increase level cap to have a bigger number that would negate all capped players builds, ships and gear (that many spent goodish amounts of real money on)? No-friggin'-way.
STF's/raids with increased difficulty and smarter AI are what we need. (Dear Cryptic: not a big bag of HP enemy that can one-shot you. That's not real challenge, that's a lack of imagination) And as someone else mentioned above, please for the love of all things Trek, revamp and rework the exploration missions. We need to make some noise about this one STO community, because current policy is foundry=exploration missions. Seriously, it's in one of the "Ask Cryptic" sections. I find that pretty lazy.
I think I get what you are driving at OP, but you are asking for the wrong thing. We don't need a level cap increase, capped toons are already plenty strong with a decent build/skipper/gear. We need more/improved endgame content.
Expand upon what is already there, especially if the result is more grind either way.
I have 4 ships that are utterly worthless. They lack weapon and console slots to keep up with anything necessary for the easy endgame. So what if you can invest in and level your ships too?
Say a Nova has 2 fore, 2 aft for weps and for consoles it has 1 eng, 2 sci, 1 tac. It's a worthless ship which has 0 use after I move onto the next tier. Let me upgrade in some unlockable way another 2 slots (3 if you use a c-store unlock?), then you get to choose where to add the slot, weapon or console etc.
Upgrade slots to add procs to weapons?
Overcharging consoles to increase effectiveness at the cost of power or regen?
Call it retrofitting, make it a progressive jobskill and tack it on to the abomination this game calls a crafting system.
At least you'd have diversity among the masses instead of leading everyone into the same 'endgame' that is role/ship/fit specific. Another 10, or 20 levels for more carrot on a stick content is self defeating.
Shouldn't CRYPTIC, instead of going higher in the levels, first bring us some more CONTENT ? That's My idea, and I Guess many of you would back Me up on thisone !
YEEHAA, LIVE Action ! :rolleyes:
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unfortunatly there are alot of misinformed people putting out nonsense in here.. gaming companies dont just increase the level cap to make you get new gear or what not.. (and i have a friend who is a developer in a game and has given me alot of insight on why things happen in a game).. but...
companies put level cap increases out there to 1) increase the amount of points and mix up the skill trees.. 2) so that you feel as if your character is progressing... (which i have not felt since i hit the level cap 2 1/2- 3 years ago.. (you know, the new level cap we got right around the 1.5 year mark). 3) yes, to put new gear out there, cause alot of people are like me, and like to not feel like things are stagnant.. i for one, have been pissed that i have the same gear for the most part.. i get all gitty when new stuff comes out and i have to get it.. i like the hunt, and i like achieving something more than once in multiple years.. 4) its the perfect way to create a content chain, and give you a reason to fallow through it..
i for one, think it would be a mistake to not increase the level cap.. i agree on not increasing the ship levels, as alot of people have more real life money invested in ships alone in this game, than you would playing wow for 10 years.. lol.. but, i will say, we need new equipment.. i salivate for the day we go to mk 13 and 14 gear.. this is much needed.. and they need to make it harder to get the top end gear.. (ie, very rare drops, and more than ten minutes of grinding.. also, high level gear needs to not be purchasable.. (im not saying all gear.. you can get your mk14 blues no prob.. but to get an epic loadout of all very rare, or elites, it should take more than ten minutes, and be harder to get.. (i for one, spent less than a week getting fleet credits, had a ton of dil already, and had all the elite fleet gear in less than a week.. which is sad... and not fun.. i like to feel like i accomplished something, not getting it with no effort, and then getting bored in 5 minutes..
think its time to face fact cryptic never going to be able to put out content as fast as we play them to be frank i was surprise romulan got as many as they did
I have 4 ships that are utterly worthless. They lack weapon and console slots to keep up with anything necessary for the easy endgame. So what if you can invest in and level your ships too?
Say a Nova has 2 fore, 2 aft for weps and for consoles it has 1 eng, 2 sci, 1 tac. It's a worthless ship which has 0 use after I move onto the next tier. Let me upgrade in some unlockable way another 2 slots (3 if you use a c-store unlock?), then you get to choose where to add the slot, weapon or console etc.
Upgrade slots to add procs to weapons?
Overcharging consoles to increase effectiveness at the cost of power or regen?
Call it retrofitting, make it a progressive jobskill and tack it on to the abomination this game calls a crafting system.
At least you'd have diversity among the masses instead of leading everyone into the same 'endgame' that is role/ship/fit specific. Another 10, or 20 levels for more carrot on a stick content is self defeating.
I second this idea. We have two characters already: our captain and our ship. A leveling system for ships could be nice.
and also some of you ppl jump the gun just because their may be a cap increase dont mean their will be T6 ships their is no law saying they have to have T6 ships just because you are a 4 star admiral
Want to find a thread that's not 3 years old to support your point? More recent podcast interviews have stated they are looking at "alternate forms of progression" (i.e. Reputation) rather than level cap increase.
Want to find a thread that's not 3 years old to support your point? More recent podcast interviews have stated they are looking at "alternate forms of progression" (i.e. Reputation) rather than level cap increase.
I'll believe it when I see it...
my point that you missed was its happen before it will happen again and also its a mmo never played a mmo that dont increase their level cap at some point in wow since i played has up the cap 3 times lotor has dun it 2 times
No, I am not denying history as you appear to be. I am understanding that the last level cap increase was a dev-acknowledged blunter that they won't make again.
No, I am not denying history as you appear to be. I am understanding that the last level cap increase was a dev-acknowledged blunter that they won't make again.
that your OP and i dont see where the Dev has ever said it was a mistake to ever do so btw this your first mmo?
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Yes. That way, we can finally get to be 4-pip Admirals who spend their time mining dilithium or Nukara crystals by hand; taking mission orders from (and reporting to) lower-ranked officers; commanding single ships (not fleets); tagging Epohh, and other things that flag officers normally do.
The sarcasm is general; nothing personal.
actually, its been talked about that one of the things they are thinking of adding to the game when they make full admiral rank is letting a couple of your other ships follow you around kind of like the space version of boffs.
dont ask for links to threads that mention these comments. my search-fu is weak. but it is most likely one of the reasons why they arent adding in a level cap increase yet. they havent finished with the system and it would likely be another major release (not on the size of LoR, but more along the lines of the crossfire patch) that we'd see something like this.
I have heard of this, and I would pay money not to have this feature. I don't think the AI that governs boffs is very smart, nor the AI that governs pets and photonic ships.
I hear you. Yes, I've seen some of that, like here in the STO Wiki: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Player_rank#Admiral_and_General. That would really be something else. Still, capabilities like that should be available to all flag-level ranks; maybe scaling the size of your "mini fleet" up as you level. Something like +1 ship at RA1/Brig Gen up to +4 ships at Admiral/General, for a total of 5 ships including the player's.
I don't think any higher ranks like Fleet Adm. and Dahar Master are necessary and would make even less sense that what we have now.
How about we finally get to explore the galaxy as JUST a Captain of a ship?
I didn't sign up for STO to be President or Chancellor or some damn Admiral flying a desk around with a bloody pack of ship escorts. I signed up to command 1 ship and 1 crew while flying around saving the galaxy.
I don't want to manage the happiness of my ships crew. I don't want to hang bloody curtains or paintings in my ready room. I don't want to spend hours discussing interior decorating or which color to paint the bloody damn nursery.
I want to be out among the stars warping from one system to the next exploring everything and everywhere I can.
I don't want more skill points. I have enough already. I don't need higher tiers of gear or more expensive ships. I have enough already. I don't need more damn pips on my collar or sleeve. I have enough already.
I want MORE adventures to see and to do with the ship and crew that I have. I want to stay in the Captain's chair of my ship.
I really do not want STO to become ST:EvE or ST:Sims or ST: RTS or ST:Cake Decorating 101.
Seconded for truth.
::WARNING:: This game is not intended for use as a source of self-esteem.
If they want people to keep grinding for gear just keep adding new Mk XII stuff with different set bonus and stats. They want people to buy new ships just make them remain tier 5 with new consoles and slightly different stats and bridge officer slots.
"Don't let them promote you, don't let them transfer you, don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship. Because while you're there, you can make a difference."
That little interchange between Kirk and Picard was going thru my head as I put that little tirading rant together.
And I still stand by it!
I hit Vice Admiral in 2 weeks, thats just wrong, for starters hitting admiral is probably a bad idea anyway, theres far too many Flag officer zooming about the quadrant doing monotomus tasks, we should have remained captain ( one ship, one captain ) , maybe give some players an honorary rank of vice admiral if they genuinely are the better player , theres just no sense to making hundreds of people admirals, its like currency , the more there is the less value it has
I would welcome chance to go to the delta quad, the gamma quad, be an explorer ( instead of the joke of diplomacy/exploration missions we have now) , how about the game lets us sign up for a Exploration tour, your not aloud to return home till you finish it , but the rewards are BIG, unique , secret factions to meet , and ally with, reputation to build by speaking to people, and actions, not marks
I know what i've just requested is probably a ridiculously narrow minded request, and not valued dev investment of time/resources, more people want to rip into the borg not actually explore ( btw what a joke, they aren't even threatening anymore , remember when they used to be hard to beat?)
i get that it would be ridiculously hard to set up a amssive exploration world on the scale of an entire quadrant, but i really would like an alternative to the doing the same STF again and again, i have all the service medals, thats the donatras ship destoryed hundreds of times, its long since ceased to be fun
Also the number of people with alternative characters numbering into double figures , would suggest people are just not satisfied with 50 levels of progress , rep is just a time and dil sink , and i'm a sucker for participating in it
RANT ALMOST OVER , just one last thing to say, remember when starfleet used to explore the galaxy, also hasn't it been about 3 years since the war started, nobody seems to be winning, its almost like it doesn't even mean anything, wouldn't it be nice if from time to time, one side had an offensive, taking a few planets or sectors, opening up a Open PvP ZONE for a while , and some unique missions?
Level cap increase is not what is needed. It's new endgame content that you are looking for my friend. Just increase level cap to have a bigger number that would negate all capped players builds, ships and gear (that many spent goodish amounts of real money on)? No-friggin'-way.
STF's/raids with increased difficulty and smarter AI are what we need. (Dear Cryptic: not a big bag of HP enemy that can one-shot you. That's not real challenge, that's a lack of imagination) And as someone else mentioned above, please for the love of all things Trek, revamp and rework the exploration missions. We need to make some noise about this one STO community, because current policy is foundry=exploration missions. Seriously, it's in one of the "Ask Cryptic" sections. I find that pretty lazy.
I think I get what you are driving at OP, but you are asking for the wrong thing. We don't need a level cap increase, capped toons are already plenty strong with a decent build/skipper/gear. We need more/improved endgame content.
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I have 4 ships that are utterly worthless. They lack weapon and console slots to keep up with anything necessary for the easy endgame. So what if you can invest in and level your ships too?
Say a Nova has 2 fore, 2 aft for weps and for consoles it has 1 eng, 2 sci, 1 tac. It's a worthless ship which has 0 use after I move onto the next tier. Let me upgrade in some unlockable way another 2 slots (3 if you use a c-store unlock?), then you get to choose where to add the slot, weapon or console etc.
Upgrade slots to add procs to weapons?
Overcharging consoles to increase effectiveness at the cost of power or regen?
Call it retrofitting, make it a progressive jobskill and tack it on to the abomination this game calls a crafting system.
At least you'd have diversity among the masses instead of leading everyone into the same 'endgame' that is role/ship/fit specific. Another 10, or 20 levels for more carrot on a stick content is self defeating.
Shouldn't CRYPTIC, instead of going higher in the levels, first bring us some more CONTENT ? That's My idea, and I Guess many of you would back Me up on thisone !
YEEHAA, LIVE Action ! :rolleyes:
Allfather
companies put level cap increases out there to 1) increase the amount of points and mix up the skill trees.. 2) so that you feel as if your character is progressing... (which i have not felt since i hit the level cap 2 1/2- 3 years ago.. (you know, the new level cap we got right around the 1.5 year mark). 3) yes, to put new gear out there, cause alot of people are like me, and like to not feel like things are stagnant.. i for one, have been pissed that i have the same gear for the most part.. i get all gitty when new stuff comes out and i have to get it.. i like the hunt, and i like achieving something more than once in multiple years.. 4) its the perfect way to create a content chain, and give you a reason to fallow through it..
i for one, think it would be a mistake to not increase the level cap.. i agree on not increasing the ship levels, as alot of people have more real life money invested in ships alone in this game, than you would playing wow for 10 years.. lol.. but, i will say, we need new equipment.. i salivate for the day we go to mk 13 and 14 gear.. this is much needed.. and they need to make it harder to get the top end gear.. (ie, very rare drops, and more than ten minutes of grinding.. also, high level gear needs to not be purchasable.. (im not saying all gear.. you can get your mk14 blues no prob.. but to get an epic loadout of all very rare, or elites, it should take more than ten minutes, and be harder to get.. (i for one, spent less than a week getting fleet credits, had a ton of dil already, and had all the elite fleet gear in less than a week.. which is sad... and not fun.. i like to feel like i accomplished something, not getting it with no effort, and then getting bored in 5 minutes..
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I second this idea. We have two characters already: our captain and our ship. A leveling system for ships could be nice.
T6 ships or MKXIII gear would make all our grinding & zen store purchases to date worthless.
If that happens, I'll be deleting STO and never return.
then to save you time buh bye
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It's never going to happen, so i'm not worried. The Devs wouldn't be that stupid.
keep thinking that its happen already from RA up to VA and its been talked about for it to one day be FA
and whats that saying from BSG its all happen ones it will all happen again
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=165289
and also some of you ppl jump the gun just because their may be a cap increase dont mean their will be T6 ships their is no law saying they have to have T6 ships just because you are a 4 star admiral
system Lord Baal is dead
Want to find a thread that's not 3 years old to support your point? More recent podcast interviews have stated they are looking at "alternate forms of progression" (i.e. Reputation) rather than level cap increase.
I'll believe it when I see it...
my point that you missed was its happen before it will happen again
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Believe what you want. We'll see who's right.
so are you saying it never went from RA to VA?
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No, I am not denying history as you appear to be. I am understanding that the last level cap increase was a dev-acknowledged blunter that they won't make again.
that your OP and i dont see where the Dev has ever said it was a mistake to ever do so btw this your first mmo?
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