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Please Read about the Topic of Discussion regarding the Thalaron Weapon and it's observed effects. If you could leave Feedback I will appreciate.
Ok, made this thread for discussion of players who came accross a Scimitar (or a Variant of) in game. It is more or less for speculation and observation. Seeing as we can add things we know to allow us to better understand what is coming. Since lets face it, the month of June is almost over and as of the time of this post, no Scimitar info.
So I made this so we Tribble testers can try to figure out what a Scimitar brings to the table. Since I have had no encounters with a Scimitar piloted by a player I have a very limited amount to share.
Edit: I have now encountered a Scimitar in game. While it is clearly not an escort it Pew Pews with the best of them. It even seems to maintain some of that feel that you would expect from a Scimitar. And yes I did learn a great deal. I am however not sharing anything that could give too much away. Why? The things I have provided are observational Data. I wish to provide feedback in the same manner. So the Developers will know what I expect even though I did not get to test one. Also, if you want to see what one does in battle, go over to tribble and help them test.
Known facts:
Scimitar is going to be a Carrier, able to carry Romulan Drones or Scorpion Fighters
She will more than likely be Engineering or Tactical heavy (Need Observational Proof)
She will have the Thalaron Weapon (Would like some Numbers parsed)
Ovserved Hull of 52,001 ( No idea on Spec)
Turn rate comperable to a D'Deridex possibly faster (again no idea on spec of consoles)
Able to Fire Thalaron Weapon without lock on Enemy. (Observed see link below)
Thalaron weapon does immobilize, ~12 seconds from activation to Firiing (Observed see link below)
Speculation:
She supposidly has a cloak called "Scimitar Cloak" (Have not seen this, but I want to)
Probably a Turn Rate of 6 (Thanks Captainwestbrook)
Very Likely 2 Hanger bays (Thanks Captainwestbrook)
Thank You for sharing
Scimitar with wings spread
http://imageshack.us/a/img7/4808/kaqj.jpg (Best screenshot so far credit goes to defalus)
I am not sure if the Console Pictures were to be released yet. But I will tell you where to look for them on this thread. Page 6 post #53. If it is not supposed to be there, please get rid of it and the reference without deleting the Thread. We are providing Feedback on what we see as needing improvement.
Topic of Discussion. The Scimitar from what I observed seems to have a very weak Thalaron Weapon. With a 12 second warning and immobilizing the ship using it. I would like to see it hit an insane amount of damage. Something like 60-75k Raw damage with a DoT after. This is due to the fact that less restricted attacks such as Wing Cannon Overload are only requiring ~2 seconds to charge and fire while dealing 20-35k Raw damage reliably. Please leave your thoughts on this here.
If you have a Scimitar story to share please do, with combat logs if you get the chance.
Begin Sharing!
Ok, made this thread for discussion of players who came accross a Scimitar (or a Variant of) in game. It is more or less for speculation and observation. Seeing as we can add things we know to allow us to better understand what is coming. Since lets face it, the month of June is almost over and as of the time of this post, no Scimitar info.
So I made this so we Tribble testers can try to figure out what a Scimitar brings to the table. Since I have had no encounters with a Scimitar piloted by a player I have a very limited amount to share.
Edit: I have now encountered a Scimitar in game. While it is clearly not an escort it Pew Pews with the best of them. It even seems to maintain some of that feel that you would expect from a Scimitar. And yes I did learn a great deal. I am however not sharing anything that could give too much away. Why? The things I have provided are observational Data. I wish to provide feedback in the same manner. So the Developers will know what I expect even though I did not get to test one. Also, if you want to see what one does in battle, go over to tribble and help them test.
Known facts:
Scimitar is going to be a Carrier, able to carry Romulan Drones or Scorpion Fighters
She will more than likely be Engineering or Tactical heavy (Need Observational Proof)
She will have the Thalaron Weapon (Would like some Numbers parsed)
Ovserved Hull of 52,001 ( No idea on Spec)
Turn rate comperable to a D'Deridex possibly faster (again no idea on spec of consoles)
Able to Fire Thalaron Weapon without lock on Enemy. (Observed see link below)
Thalaron weapon does immobilize, ~12 seconds from activation to Firiing (Observed see link below)
Speculation:
She supposidly has a cloak called "Scimitar Cloak" (Have not seen this, but I want to)
Probably a Turn Rate of 6 (Thanks Captainwestbrook)
Very Likely 2 Hanger bays (Thanks Captainwestbrook)
nightstalker61 wrote: »
The one closer to me is a Falchion, the other is a Scimitar
Thank You for sharing
Scimitar with wings spread
http://imageshack.us/a/img7/4808/kaqj.jpg (Best screenshot so far credit goes to defalus)
I am not sure if the Console Pictures were to be released yet. But I will tell you where to look for them on this thread. Page 6 post #53. If it is not supposed to be there, please get rid of it and the reference without deleting the Thread. We are providing Feedback on what we see as needing improvement.
Topic of Discussion. The Scimitar from what I observed seems to have a very weak Thalaron Weapon. With a 12 second warning and immobilizing the ship using it. I would like to see it hit an insane amount of damage. Something like 60-75k Raw damage with a DoT after. This is due to the fact that less restricted attacks such as Wing Cannon Overload are only requiring ~2 seconds to charge and fire while dealing 20-35k Raw damage reliably. Please leave your thoughts on this here.
If you have a Scimitar story to share please do, with combat logs if you get the chance.
Begin Sharing!
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Most dreadnought carriers have a minimum of 2 hangar bays and 6 turn rate. I don't know about a Scimitar Cloak, but I suppose it'll definitely have a Romulan Battle Cloak I suppose.
Btw, not a tester.. but this is what I make out of it.
5 FED Fleets | 3 KDF Fleets - T5 Colony on both factions
Also the Federation activly dumps theta radiation ("is an energy form which can be extremely toxic to humanoid life." - Mem Alpha) around the place and uses temporal weaponary with... well let's skip the techno babble, there are weapons which the Federation shouldn't really be using but they use it anyway, all in the name of a game.
The Federation bans anything useful, they are giant idiots that way. Cloaking, phase-shift, thalaron, Omega molecule, they back off like cowards.
The only sensible Federation citizens are the Section 31 ones.
Why would the Romulans be banned from it, they are not Feds.
Its like the Feds trying to ban klingon cloaks during the dominion war....
It does banned
Just want to clarify that I was referring to Starfleet in game and not on TV.
But they are allies.. well some of them. Can the Federation be allied with a race that openly uses thalaron weapons?
And on another note, I think this thread has been derailed.:(
So in an attempt to put it back on course, I'll add that the Falchion Scimitar is in game already, albeit as an NPC ship, it can be seen in the Azure Rescue mission.
Also thanks for the debate, the ones who argue the Scimitar should have Thalaron are correct. The Romulan Republic would more than likely keep these weapons as a Deterant from being attacked since most of thier people are dead after the Supernova. Same way our Nukes work, nobody attacks you because you would exact extreme vengence.
Well I suppose we will not be buying the Scimitar this month either, as the Scimitar is now confirmed not to be this weeks update. It is the Summer Event... :mad: As for the Scimitar, yes it was promised to us in the May Ask Cryptic, but no they will not deliver even information on it. They will post a Screen Shot on Friday and claim that is good enough. They got a lot of players angry when they refused to give us updates during Server Down Time, this is no different. They will not even give us the Respect of letting us know there will be a Delay on the Scimitar for whatever reason. This is most dissapointing as Cryptic is becoming so regular at letting us down that we almost explect it. This really does make me very sad
Cryptic I am one happy Romulan, and one Very Angry Consumer :mad:.
I really hope they do that too, now that we know it is not coming out anytime soon. Maybe they will make one of the variants like the Heavy Escort Carrier. I would like to see that, just in case as it would offer unique options for purchasers of the 3 pack.
However, if they actually do intend to have a group of players test the Scimitar, then I expect it's actual release no sooner than atleast Mid July - End of July.
5 FED Fleets | 3 KDF Fleets - T5 Colony on both factions
I would imagine if others are correct in the summer event's purpose to keep us active in playing. Then they will release Scimitar at the end of the summer event.
/rage... then /QQ
That is actually kind of a Grey area, however I believe that Imgur links and other image hosting sites have often had links posted in the forums with no mention as to any issue from the Moderators. But if you happen to notice how effective one of those ships is please do share.
I'd love to see these photos, I don't think there would be a problem because they've already said that we will see some "new ships" on Tribble. If they didn't want players to see them they wouldn't have put them on Tribble for testing...
Plus it's not like you'd be sharing the layout/armament/stats (which probably would get you in trouble), just a nice pic.
If it makes you feel better, post a link to a link to a link to keep it well away from the forums, or PM me with the link and I'll post it.
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Back on topic, anyone have anything that they've observed about the Scimitar? I had heard mention (as Vegie0 said) about some "Scimitar Cloak". Anyone observed what that is?
While I see your point of getting the bugs our and making sure it works right. I also reference that just about every ship tested by these elite testers for Cryptic... gets adjusted and fixed numerous times once it hits the Holodeck... So why not give it to US and let us fix it. We do that anyway.
The one closer to me is a Falchion, the other is a Scimitar
I want one!
My stomach is clear and my mind is full of bacon!
Epic Credit goes to psychoticvulcan
I'm hoping that he was only playing with one bay, but it's possible that one of the variants (the Scimitar it looks like) may only have one hangar and one of the others (Falchion or Tulwar) may have two.
I'd REALLY like to have a full carrier, it's my favorite ship type, but I'll take what I can get
From which I agree on one part. THe tholaron radiation part should not ba part of the main weapon. That being said given the timeline and years past since Nemesis. THey could and would have come up with a viable alternative to this weapon. A massive cannon that has to build up its charge to set it off. With whatever kind of energy it produces. It could still be devestating.
That said I have my own ideas on how to setup the weapons and powers for this epic ship. And I really hope Zcryptic reads this thread for the great feedback.
1. In the dominion wars we did not hear a terrible lot about the Romulan ships and weapon systems. It makes sense being a Romulans are they would keep many secrets. With those secrets would, could and should be many versions of the Scimitar ship. Different sizes with different weapon type and special power available.
2. With that if frees up Cryptic to do whatever they set their mind to to that end. I would have at least 5 versions of this ship. From a small defiant size escort to the giant sized Scimitar from the movie Nemesis. THe smallest being the most manuverable to the largest being an epic tank hard to take down.
I will go into my ideas for the largest only. And I would put certain restrictions in place for this overpowered ship. It would have to be a tier 6 ships for starters level 60. With that I would only allow one or possible two of these in any PVE mission.
I would have a heavy focus on manuverability being very limited. A fixed turn rate never boosted by anything. No modifiers allowed. Speed being the only exectpion.
It would have a hull of about 65K. Yes huge but are your really intimidated by the boat. I avoid almost 95% of the tholaron radiation attacks. So to me its a non issue as far as the weapons go. So let it have the huge hull stats. The fixed locked turn rate even out the score.
This would be the last ship you would want in PVP
Moving on, As far a weapons go yes the massive pulse cannon with some other kind of radiation. Maybe plasma with an extra boost damage over time. Or maybe hull penetrating damage instead. With a long count down ticker to prevent over use. TBD
Moving forward to the carrier part. I would give it some decent fighters. Maybe a couple of extra ships than anyother carrier. I would also give it torpedo launchers built in forward and back. Taking the place of a weapon slot. This would be the massive torpedo damage you take in the STFs against Donatra or whatever you call it these days. And I would go with beams only not cannons. And again for speciality do it like the Galor with a special modifier to the beams for extra damage over time.
I would also have available like on the Borg ships probes that can deal out serious tracktor beams. Maybe about 5-7 at a time. Only useable within 5km. Again with a cooldown TBD.
This ship as I decribe it here would be no threat in PVP exept for maybe against other Scimitars, which might be quite fun.
With all of that. I would have seperate Scimitars avaiable for each faction. KDF, FED and ROM.
The story would go something like with the help of the New Romulans teaming up with the KDF and the Federation. You would have to do a mission to steal the Talshiar exclusive blueprints to the scimitar. But when you get these blue prints they are incomplete. So each faction gets a copy. But each faction would have to make thier own hybrid version of this large Scimitar. You would also have to do certain mission to gain adaptive tech to make your hybrid Scimitar. Each factions scimitar would be a little different that the others. Different stations and special consoles. etc. Again TBD.
Thats all!
I believe she might have 2 bays, as you watch the video pay close attention to the time that passes between 1 drone being deployed to the time of the second. Doesn't seem to be enought for a normal CD, granted this could be Doffs. But it also might indicate he was working out his tray, launched 1 drone, then deployed the second.