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Do you even Science Bro?
I also agree with not minmax, EPTA is lame!!!!!!!!!!!
I look forward to it.
And it isn't so much Fed players who think Klingon ships are OP, more that battle cloaking is OP, and getting vaped by a de-cloaking alpha is OP, etc.
Seriously, is there any playerbase they *haven't* pissed off, in *any* MMO they play?
Why is roleplaying being brought up in a pvp thread anyway?
You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
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You know what it is...
-Supporter of Cryptic Lockboxes!
Because that's totally above board...
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ThingsThatDidn'tHappen.txt? Because surely you'd have a screenshot of something like that if it really happened. Right?
There is only one Klingon ship that is OP. Well it has a exploit combo that is OP. The BOP/B'Rel damage bonus after decloak is way more that what it is suppost to be. Just as broken as the invisable Borg Tac cube/Gate plasma torp that crits for 300k plus damage. No attack should take out a 40K-ish hull cruiser/carrier with full health and shields and TSS and TT active in under 1 second. I play a Klingon and fly a Grumba, feels like cheating to use a broken ability just to get kills. Even when I hit APB, APA with a Tractor beam then the Grumba Lance it does not come close to the B'rel combo even when it crits.
The Norgh spikes much higher than the Brel. The only advantage the brel has is the enhanced cloak. I have enjoyed both but the Brel is more enjoyable as it enables me to taunt people before I vape'n'bake them.
That said, the Romulans have considerably more potential for spike (WAY MORE) they also have a lot of other TRIBBLE that is just durp.
Implying that a heavily specialized spike Brel is a exploit is just silly. To achieve such spike you have 0 resist other than defense and speed. Careful planning and execution goes into attacks. Small errors, missing a power, missing the power cycle window of an enemy, overshooting, ect ect make the attack lolzy.
As far as spike goes, my highest spike was on a bug /w BO2.
2nd was a Norgh /w BO2
3rd Brel /w BO2
And lastly, in zones like kerrat where 10 feds get a hard-on camping, well it's just lolz.
But I suspect you believe your cruiser should be invincible. I guess that's why zones are full of cruisers and cruisers complain about escorts. It's always been that way. 2+ years ago cruisers would complain about BO2/3 decloak attacks from a Heghta. The only difference is you have more power potential now but ships have higher shield mods and WAY more healing so it seems like a fair trade to me...
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You could be in for a long wait, if it ever happens. There is like a million bugs before LoR, and it ain't getting better after LoR is launched, like Human Leadership trait being broken again. Typically, a feature like this is very low down the list of things they need to fix. They will more likely focus on things that impede people from playing like getting booted from the game or even Borg Red Alert not turning. Keep in mind that PvP is a small fraction of the STO users and the number of people complaining about this, even smaller. Case in point, the Deflector Doff ability on Energy Siphon has been broken for a very long time. Many people have notified Cryptic and several threads later, nothing happens, not even an acknowledgement. Someone in my fleet, a lifetime subscriber, has particularly severe stability issue with the servers and was told to wait 6 months to be able to speak to a customer service rep.
While to the Klignons, this may seem like a big deal - well judging by the various threads in the forums, I think some consider that it could put the Klinks on their way towards extinction - though, the right course of action for you is to adapt. Because waiting for Cryptic to come around and fix this is like - forget it.
As if you need more proof, the very rare (purple) Maintenance Engineer associated with EPtA has become the most expensive doff on the exchange by far. I was lucky to snatch one for only 25 million ec yesterday. Seconds later, the other one was bought by someone else and the supply completely dried out as there were only 2. Hours later, 1 more Fed doff remerged along with 2 for KDF - all 3 of them selling for 50 million EC. Not even the Cannons or Attack Pattern doffs sell as much as 50 million EC a piece. It is that ridiculous.
Conclusion : EPtA is here to stay. The only way KDF can deal with this is to adapt or die.
Or wait...
...course, how long that wait will be - well, we'll have to wait and see. There are a lot of bugs out there and there's definitely more pressing bugs.
That's the right attitude to approach this. Bugs and non-functional features affect us all and there are lots of them. Human leadership trait not working is big deal too but I certainly don't see 10 threads complaining about it day in and day out. First, it's not going to make Cryptic react any faster at the moment, they are overloaded for the right and wrong reasons. One can only adapt. Though to be honest, I am not about to remove my only 2 human boff from the active roster just due to this bug. A Federation Starship without a single human boff on the active roster is just bizarre. I know people who have since installed 5 Romulan boff obtained from the Embassy on their Fed ship - those non-customizable boff - I just can't do it. I have three of them but put only 2 on the active roster and that's the max I am willing to do. Likewise, it's abusive to have 5 Romulan boff on a Federation Starship just because Human Leadership trait isn't working.
We all have to adapt, there is no other way.
No offense, the Cryptic employee you quoted is seriously overworked and he is the PR guy. If you ask him about the list of 10000+ bugs that have been identified, his response is going to be the same : "We are working on it."
That's PR talk. Just ask yourself, how long did it take for Cryptic to fix Human Leadership traits not working since launch last time? I was told it took them almost 3 years. Do you think they only identified the problem after 3 years?
Conclusion: Take that with a grain of salt, anything coming from Cryptic PR is like a pie in the sky at the moment. And there is no guarantee their so called fix will ever work to satisfy to the plaintiffs given their track history of breaking more features as they try to fix things. Here is a scenario : Cryptic went in and correct the math errors. Instead of exposing cloakers at 30KM+, they now expose them at up to 28KM, only invisible beyond that. So yes, they "fixed" it. But I am sure if that's the fix, a sea of complaints will continue to follow.
It's a simple fix. They know it.
EPtA1 added +100 SDR. The tooltip listed +1% StealthSight. +100 SDR. +100 SDR worked out to +50 StealthSight/Perception.
They wanted to change the tooltip to list the actual amount rather than the percentage. +50 StealthSight/Perception.
The issue was with the formula.
Formula is/should be: Perception = 5000 * (1 + (SDR/10,000))
Formula used for EPtA was: Perception = 5000 + (SDR/10,000)
So in adding 50 StealthSight, 500,000 SDR needed to be added. But that's not the formula. It's not the formula used for anything else involving StealthSight/Perception.
It's possible that the formula was actually:
((X + 5000) - 5000) * 10,000 = SDR
When it should have been:
(((X + 5000)/5000) - 1) * 10,000 = SDR
EPtA was buffed by changing that StealthSight (as well as the Stealth) bonus to 30s instead of 5s, as well as the buff provided to the three Science skills.
There was no intended buff to the StealthSight/Perception of EPtA. It's a bug. Pure and simple. The change was only meant to be from listing +1% StealthSight to +50 StealthSight.
+1% StealthSight and +50 StealthSight are the same.
Base StealthSight/Perception is 5000. 1% of 5000 is...50.
The +500,000 SDR results in 255,500 StealthSight/Perception. +250,500 StealthSight. Should only be +50.
It will be fixed when it's fixed.
Nothing is ever simple when it comes to Cryptic, like the server being down yet again as we speak.
While the formula you posted may sound simple to you, to many it just looks like complicated math especially if they are not emotionally invested to your problem. There is other considerations since this company has the tendency to break other things as they try to fix one problem. For example, APA boosting offensive Science powers has been long identified as an "unintended" consequence. Should be a simple fix, eh? Nope, Cryptic says it's too complicated so it probably will never be fixed. I am paraphrasing but that's the point they are saying : "too complicated". If that's complicated, what else isn't? Like fixing the Deflector doff? Fixing Leadership trait? Fixing Sensor Scan bug? Like Department heads keep playing music chair?
Someone posted that over 30000 bug reports have been filed in 10 days. Even accounting for the duplicates and then prioritized, this remains a low level issue far down the chain. What you are wishing for is that this EPtA formula error gets prioritized over all other countless number of bugs and more serious server problems. Frankly, it ain't happening. To believe otherwise is wishful thinking and unrealistic. The server is down again, their hands are full just trying to keep it stable and failing to do so consistently, which will be more important to the 99% of the player base then the tiny fraction of vocal minority who can't play and would even threaten "strike" unless they can hide in a cloak. The issue is affecting us all equally, given that KDF players are known to use EPtA to flash out Rom-Fed ships as well, it goes both ways. The difference is Fed have learned to play sans cloak for a long time and is accustomed to adapt to it. KDF has been abusing the cloaking so much that a vast majority of them doesn't know how to survive outside of a cloak. One way or the other, the day of cloak->alpha->dock is coming to an end. It's time to come up with a different tactic or else the Klignon Empire will really be on its way towards extinction.
I have yet to see a decloaking Defiant apoligise for his abusive decloak alpha strike.
Abuse indeed. Lol.
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