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Just a curious question before I invest in upgraded fleet weapons for my ship.
Typically, I go phaser or disruptor on my ships ... but with a Romulan warbird ... It cries out ... "plasma."
But just how effective are they overall? ... more so with people using builds designed to face the borg which love to give you that plasma burn proc.
Typically, I go phaser or disruptor on my ships ... but with a Romulan warbird ... It cries out ... "plasma."
But just how effective are they overall? ... more so with people using builds designed to face the borg which love to give you that plasma burn proc.
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The one addendum to this is Plasma Torpedoes. If you use them after bypassing an enemy's shields, you can crack their armor because of Plasma's "Continuous Burn." However, many experienced PvP Captains will have Engineering Consoles to help counter this effect.
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All weapons have the same base damage output. What sets them apart are aesthetics, and the associated procs.
For PvE, plasma is very viable, especially if you have access to embassy consoles. Not so much for PvP given the amount of +plasma resist on practically every endgame shield, and the ubiquity of Hazard Emitters.
If you can stand the grind, the Rommie rep plasma/disrutpor hybrids are quite nasty with the combined burn + hull resist debuff proc.
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just by themselves, plasma weapons are fine.
personally, I like to use disruptor weapons for their color, and then i use the special romulan science console from the fleet embassy [-th], boost to shield emitters, and also ADDS PLASMA PROC to non-plasma weapons.
why have only one proc when you can have two?
that's my recommendation. disruptor fleet weapons plus romulan fleet embassy plasma proc console...!
But if you insist on getting fleet weapons get something you can use in pvp,
And that's not going to be plasma.
I have a fleetmate who swears by the Romulan plasma weapons. He continually tells people that they're the way to get the highest DPS. Personally, I don't see it. Plasma isn't bad, especially if you run embassy consoles, but I have other consoles I run in their place, so it doesn't make much sense for me to run Romulan weapons. On my tac toon I run AP/Phaser, and Spiral Wave on my Engineer.
Realize though, that any weapon type is viable for PvE. Go with whatever you like the looks of.
While at one point, it was considered the budget PvE damage type due to all of those factors above, this advantage has largely been erased or completely lost, as Plasma is now as expensive as Phaser or Disruptor.
Plasma does have one thing going for it, however: Rep System and Fleet equipment specifically boosting Plasma Damage. This allows plasma weaponry to achieve higher raw values than any other damage type, partially compensating for penalties paid in resistance losses, and making them a strong contender in PvE where enemies don't have resistance. The proliferation of Elite Fleet Shields also helps plasma indirectly, since these shields have no specific plasma resist and penalize everything equally.
In summary: Plasma CAN, with the right equipment, generate the largest sustained raw damage values. Without that equipment, plasma is overpriced TRIBBLE. If you want to use that equipment, then by all means use Plaz. If you don't want to use that equipment, give Plaz a pass.
I went fleet disruptor. To my way of thinking, since in television, they always used disruptors, it's more canon. :rolleyes:
It's also more viable for PVP, if I ever get my Rommie in shape for that.
Always been a fan of the disruptor proc for my Klingons.
However, when I rank up, I'll be getting the high end Romulan plasma's and gear.
Question ?, since it just crossed my mind, Rommies have access to those plasma disruptor
hybrids right?
Those might be cool too. hmmmmmm
Obviously, the in-game explanation is that if we did the completely canonical thing, way too many enemies would be using disruptors, since the canonical disruptor users are "Romulans, Klingons, and Breen".
People stating that because of end game shields plasma is no good for pvp.
This is Entirely Incorrect.
Elite Fleet shielding gives resistance to Every damage type. and the Res A versions are much more prevalent than the Res B, Res A do not have plasma res aside from their adaptive capabilities.
Granted, Infusers no longer effect plasma dot However, Particle generators do once again, as well as embassy consoles, also romulan set bonus.
On a ship with three or more science console spots for embassy consoles, plasma is arguably the highest possible dps'ing weapon in game right now.
Anti-proton, however, no longer functions as it once did. It is not the be all end all weapon of choice anymore.
Personally I favor phasers, the subsystem offline proc can be entirely devastating at times, and they're pretty.
Disruptors, namely elite fleet disruptors, kdf side. Are OP. sick sick discrepancy between the fed elites and the kdf elites.
Reason being, the fed proc only has a small effect on your shield, one time per proc.
The KDF Disruptor proc however, effects ALL incoming damage to the effected shield, giving that 25% (omfg really?) extra shield damage to all incoming fire from every source for the duration.
....I rock the Mk XII DHC Romulan Plasma, plus Rommie Plasma in other slots.....the Reputation projects (Both Borg and Romulan)seem to steer you toward plasma just slightly, plus with the embassy consoles and set bonuses from various pieces of equipment make plasma, in my opinion, very good for everything excluding PvP....sure some DPS Purists say put all Anti-P cannons front, but the setup works for me, and I'm not slacking in any STF by far.....so I get the disruptor and plasma plus soften the target up for the team with the Disruptor and ATPB....so they are a good choice.....but in terms of raw damage *I think* the fleet plasma wins, but you loose the disruptor proc....
At least my Romulan will have disruptors like he is supposed to and thanks to market trends it will be alot cheaper than I ever expected.
Where did it say that they changed this? I never read anywhere that they modified Particle Generators to add damage to the plasma dots...
Hrmmm, well...
Plasma Infuser:
Plasma Directed Energy
Plasma Directed Energy DoT
Ambiplasma:
Plasma Projectile DoT (including Console - Universal - Plasma Destabilizer DoT)
Particle Generator:
Eject Warp Plasma
Singularity - Plasma Shockwave
Singularity - Plasma Shockwave DoT
Embassy Threat-Scaling Science [Pla]:
(see below*)
2pc Singularity Harness:
Plasma Directed Energy
Plasma Directed Energy DoT
*Regarding the [Pla] consoles, I don't have them to test personally. I've not had room on any ship that's using Plasma Weapons to make use of them. However, per the LoR release notes ( http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=688641 ); these should continue to function as Plasma Infuser once did...
Plasma-Generating Science consoles from the Romulan Reputation system have been updated to increase all Plasma damage, as opposed to just Plasma damage from Directed Energy weapons.
...thus, they would boost everything listed above under the various consoles.
People that tend to go Plasma tend to go for DoT builds. Shields do nothing about the hull damage from DoTs.
You'd also need to rock some HE, AtS, PH...rock cleansing of the Rom Plasma Disruptor debuff, the Experimental Array Hyperflux debuff, the Mega Torp debuff, etc, etc, etc...
...people pop all the time with full shields because their hulls got rocked by Plasma, Trans, and various other attacks that really don't care about shields.
Course, many folks do rock that as well...neutering Plasma. 2pc MACO w/ a SciCdr Deflector or even an AtB build where it's not so much the heal as the cleanse/resists from the HE. Don't forget they added that new WCE for Fed/KDF that has a 40% chance to cleanse all debuffs on the use of an EPtX ability. Yep, very easy to neuter Plasma in PvP.
In PvE though...I've found it makes it very easy to hold aggro regardless of who else is there. NPCs don't like it...it's constant damage...they'll ignore folks that are doing more actual damage, leaving them to do more actual damage. Can work out well that way...
In PvE Plasma weapons are better because NPC ships don't use hazard emitters. Having a Plasma Torpedo is highly recommend for Elite STF missions because the Plasma Fire can eat at the hull of targets which is very valuable especially if your stuck with other people that have crappy damage and your trying to destroy a boss ship.
Just no! Stop ruining our pve gear for your pvp please.
In game wise, the vulcans have been using plasma weapons. So the reuinificationist Republic changed their type to mirror the Vulcans, not the Star Empire.
Because the Republic's cash strapped and plasma weapons traditionally are cheap on the exchange.
You seem to be making the assumption that in a completely fictional universe, one type of purely made up directed energy weapon can't be made equal to other purely made up directed energy weapons.
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Has damage got out of control?
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Give it some special mod that reduces the damage Borg do to you, not that its needed.
However if you're using them in PvP then the damage with plasma is so low because everyone uses plasma resist shields due to STF and STF rep rewards.
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Has damage got out of control?
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Particle Gens don't affect the DoT from Directed Energy Weapons nor Projectiles.
They affect the DoT from EWP and the Plasma Shockwave...
Umm that's kinda impossible, unless you phasers were of superior quality.
Or if he was testing them against another player who had one of the Omega reputation shields or any other shield with high plasma resistance. Otherwise I agree, if the phasers and plasmas were given identical equipment bonuses and used on exactly the same ship (swapping to the appropriate tactical consoles were applicable), ignoring procs they should have identical damage.
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What's always bugged me about plasma though is that its DoT is so easy to get rid of. HE is one of the universal boff powers that every ship runs, which makes the DoT just one click away from clearing.
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