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joker8mejoker8me Member Posts: 55 Arc User
I like the new content, but there is just one minor part that I cannot get past. There is no way the Klingons & Romulans would ever team up in the Star Trek universe.

I mean seriously, these guys hate each other with a passion. In fact, it is even included as part of the game's story-line that the Klingons refused to send any aid to the Romulans when their planet got destroyed.

Now the Romulans are hanging out with Klingons? C'mon now....
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You are aware that the RSE and KDF did have an alliance at one time? That's how the KDF got their cloaks. And the Durass family was quite willing to ally with the Romulans. And in Birthright we see Klingons and Romulans who actually married and lived together.

    Hatred isn't genetic and a country's leaders don't necessarily exude the beliefs of all their people. And many strange alliances have been made throughout history when a greater cause was at stake.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • scisterscister Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    As Cosmic has said, there have been multiple occasions where Romulans and Klingons have come together http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan-Klingon_Alliance
  • jake477jake477 Member Posts: 527 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Honestly if you were a Rommie who would you rather be with,

    the diplomatic Federation

    or the KDF that at least lets you be yourselves somewhat.

    KDF treats you like Romulans, the Federation treats you like your another Homo

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  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Klingons likely tolerate them so they can get access to the Romulan technology, D'tan even eludes to this in the Romulan missions basically saying that its likely the only reason that either SF or the KDF is putting up with them.

    That and the current Chancellor is basically backed by house Duras and they are known to of colluded with the Romulans more than once. I doubt it would be a fair stretch for them to influence J'mpok
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    As already mentioned, there was an alliance between the Klingons and the Romulans at some point; thus the Klingons acquisition of Cloaking Technology (though didn't they have such in ST:Enterprise anyway?) ~ lets call it a clock upgrade.

    There was also Sela who temporarily allied with the Duras Family. They allied again (with the Federation) during the Dominion War.

    Before D'Tan and the Republic, the Romulans were The Imperial Star Empire; they posed a threat to the Klingons. Now, it's a mere Romulan Republic; a significantly reduced force that poses little to no threat to the Klingon Empire. Add to the fact, the D'Tan and his Romulans are sharing their technology; it's no surprise that the Klingons have jumped on ship. They're going to get some nice new toys to play with whilst doing one thing that they love to do; fight (in this case, against the Tal Shiar).

    It's a win-win for everyone.

    ...even though I'd have preferred a stand-alone Romulan Faction, we've all got to make do with what we've got. There's little point trying to pick it apart cause it's here to stay.
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  • ztempestztempest Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Additoinally, from the TOS timeline...it was my understanding that the Romulans got at least some of the advanced vessel designs from the Klingons -- they had some sort of alliance at some point.

    That is supposedly how they made the jump from the "old style" warbirds (TOS, "Balance of Terror") to the D'Deridex and the other types of vessels which bear some resemblance to Klingon vessel design. (slinge unit construction to modular, with neck/boom/wings...)

    I might be wrong on that...I don't stay as up to date with Canon as I used to, and it is my understanding that a lot of "revisionist history" has been implemented since the days of Kirk and Spock...
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ztempest wrote: »
    Additoinally, from the TOS timeline...it was my understanding that the Romulans got at least some of the advanced vessel designs from the Klingons -- they had some sort of alliance at some point.

    That is supposedly how they made the jump from the "old style" warbirds (TOS, "Balance of Terror") to the D'Deridex and the other types of vessels which bear some resemblance to Klingon vessel design. (slinge unit construction to modular, with neck/boom/wings...)

    I might be wrong on that...I don't stay as up to date with Canon as I used to, and it is my understanding that a lot of "revisionist history" has been implemented since the days of Kirk and Spock...

    the alliance was a trade of Cloaking Tech for Klingon D7's.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    There was also Sela who temporarily allied with the Duras Family. They allied again (with the Federation) during the Dominion War.

    the sela thing if you think like a romulan what better way to conquer your enemy then to have them in a state of civil war or so weak they not be able to put up much of a fight

    and the ds9 war thing they where tricked in to that war

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Khitomer_Massacre

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Narendra_III

    now really after them 2 links could you really see them being friends like it did not happen that would start a blood feud and one I would not see going a way for a very very very very long time hatfields and mccoys any one?

    if kdf are still true Klingons after they got dun with the fed war they be turn on them so called romulan friends and turn them in to slaves
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  • imadoctornotaimadoctornota Member Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    joker8me wrote: »
    I like the new content, but there is just one minor part that I cannot get past. There is no way the Klingons & Romulans would ever team up in the Star Trek universe.

    Aside from when they had an alliance? lol :P

    Have you not played the peace-conference mission yet? It was something very similar occurred at Narendra III that led to peace with the Federation, which had seemed like a far-fetched notion prior to that.
    Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
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  • hrisvalarhrisvalar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well, the KDF pretty much has to, doesn't it? If it sits back and does nothing, then they leave the Romulans to the Federation and their spiked root beer of +1 indoctrination. Next thing you know, there's a blue piece of cloth with a white wreath and stars waving over the New Romulus command center, and five randomly numbered fleets of recently upgraded Starfleet ships decloak around Qo'noS, with a special one-time offer for J'mpok to get one just like it.

    Let's discuss this further over a root beer, shall we? :cool:
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  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tenkari wrote: »
    the alliance was a trade of Cloaking Tech for Klingon D7's.

    Some fan speculation was the Romulans were developing their singulatiry core technology But it wasn't prefected yet. The alliance was to allow the Romulans to get their hands advanced warp ships until the singularity cores were ready. It's a bit of speculation that makes a lot of sense to me.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Romulans (faction or subfaction) and Klingons (faction or subfaction) have been allied on the following known occasions:
    • The D7 <-> Cloak alliance in TOS
    • The Khitomer massacer
    • Klingon Civil War
    • Dominion wars

    The Romulan Republic did save a high-ranking klingon official.

    STO is not canon.
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  • cleve1970cleve1970 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Oh they'll team up as long as there is a common enemy, like the Tal Shiar or the Dominion War. Peacetime alliance as far as the Klingons are concerned are always "strained". Klingon and Gorn alliance makes sense due to they both like to fight.
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  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Hatred isn't genetic and a country's leaders don't necessarily exude the beliefs of all their people. And many strange alliances have been made throughout history when a greater cause was at stake.

    The often turbulent historical relationships between Britain & France immediately popped to mind when reading this.

    flash525 wrote: »
    There was also Sela who temporarily allied with the Duras Family. They allied again (with the Federation) during the Dominion War.

    Before D'Tan and the Republic, the Romulans were The Imperial Star Empire; they posed a threat to the Klingons. Now, it's a mere Romulan Republic; a significantly reduced force that poses little to no threat to the Klingon Empire. Add to the fact, the D'Tan and his Romulans are sharing their technology; it's no surprise that the Klingons have jumped on ship. They're going to get some nice new toys to play with whilst doing one thing that they love to do; fight (in this case, against the Tal Shiar).

    Would the Klingons see a re-established Empire as a threat then? From the sound of it J'mpok, a Duras ally, would seemingly be more comfortable with Sela's team.
    hrisvalar wrote: »
    Let's discuss this further over a root beer, shall we? :cool:

    I love this bit of lore. To make humans hesitate, Klingons shove gakk their way. Humans learn to eat it and frequent a DS9 Klingon restaurant. Cardassian put live creatures in eggs in front of tortured humans, hoping to get a reaction. Picard eats. Humans need only open a bottle of root beer, serve roast turkey, and the aliens all want to puke. :D
  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    joker8me wrote: »
    I like the new content, but there is just one minor part that I cannot get past. There is no way the Klingons & Romulans would ever team up in the Star Trek universe.

    I think in game it went a little along the lines of ''He gave his life? For me? For a Klingon?'' when Temer made sure the Tal Shiar's bomb killed only him and not the Klingon representative who was just badmouthing Romulans moments before.

    Then something more along the lines of ''Your blood may be green but you fight with the honor of a Klingon'' or something.

    As for the Feds, I found T'Nae surprisingly harsh the first time I played this mission, but, it had been a while since I had done Romulan Mystery, so it isn't entirely unexpected.
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  • kain9primekain9prime Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    joker8me wrote: »
    I like the new content, but there is just one minor part that I cannot get past. There is no way the Klingons & Romulans would ever team up in the Star Trek universe.

    I mean seriously, these guys hate each other with a passion. In fact, it is even included as part of the game's story-line that the Klingons refused to send any aid to the Romulans when their planet got destroyed.

    Now the Romulans are hanging out with Klingons? C'mon now....
    The D7-Stormbird connection plus cloaking device
    Nanclus in ST VI
    Ambassador Kell working with them
    J'Dan expressing "respect"
    House Duras and the Romulan alliance they had
    Ba'el - half Klingon, half Romulan
    The Romulans fighting side by side with Klingons in the Dominion War.
    Worf claiming the Romulans fought with honor in Nemesis - WORF, dude.

    Know your Trek history before claiming Romulans and Klingons can't "hang" together. C'mon now....

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  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Also for the OP consider this: The Klingons have wanted to destroy the Romulans and take over their empire for a LONG time now... Then the star blows up and robs them of their victory. They probably STILL want that glorious battle but they cannot have it with a group of refugees and colonists... Sooo what is a battle hardened Warrior to do when his enemy is on the ropes?... Help him out of course!

    The Klingons can get the Romulans back to being a powerful force to be reckoned with in the Galaxy and theeeen... They can go DESTROY THEM in the most Glorious battle of ALL TIME! See how that works?
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