I wouldn't say that 90% of players use sci ships... more like 3 out of 5!:cool:
Still the other 2 out of 5 tend to be in bugships or BoPs.... its just more of those incredible coincidences!
so 40% of people use a ship thats maybe available to 4% ?I see more defiants ,mvae and mobius in pvp than bug ships....and thats because those ships are not that rare.
If you see the same person with a bug ship 10000 times that doesnt meant 10,000 people have it.
The BoP has a higher turn rate and the fleet patrol has the same boff layout.
Just because YOU can't compete against it does not make it op. Even a beam boat carrier will easily take one out if you know what your doing.
The BoP has a higher turn rate and the fleet patrol has the same boff layout.
Just because YOU can't compete against it does not make it op. Even a beam boat carrier will easily take one out if you know what your doing.
Clearly, you didn't read my post thoroughly. I specifically stated ESCORT. The Birds of Prey are not escorts. I also stated that the BoPs do turn faster, but they really don't match the JHAS in a face-to-face confrontation.
The Fleet Patrol Escort does not have the same boff layout. It *could* have the same layout, if the person flying the JHAS uses the LT slots as engineering and sci (likely, but they could choose to go another route), and the Fleet Patrol Escort pilot uses the universal ensign slot as an engineering slot. They are similar, not the same. Big honkin' difference when it comes to PvP. Hence why I stressed 'flexibility'.
If a single beam boat carrier can take out a JHAS, then the JHAS pilot is incompetent. That's the far more likely scenario. I've seen the JHAS in the hands of people who REALLY know how to use the game mechanics, and they throw off one debilitating effect after another.
I also did not specifically state it was 'OP'. I said it was the best escort in the game, and anyone with a few functioning brain cells would agree. That's why people shell out hundreds of million of EC for it.
The Fleet Patrol Escort would be the 2nd choice after the JHAS. It's a very good escort, the main disadvantage it has vs. the JHAS is the turning rate. That turning rate is everything when it comes to escorts facing off against each other.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
See I'm not to going to shell out serious resources for a few pieces of marginally better equipment. I can do so much with that 400+ mil then just to have a ship that is marginally better and with my current above average equipment on it.
I would love to fly it, I just can't justify the cost. 100 Million and I would be doing runs against tact cubes in it now.
Its that crazy amount of EC that is costs/sells for that really makes me think.
See I'm not to going to shell out serious resources for a few pieces of marginally better equipment. I can do so much with that 400+ mil then just to have a ship that is marginally better and with my current above average equipment on it.
I would love to fly it, I just can't justify the cost. 100 Million and I would be doing runs against tact cubes in it now.
Its that crazy amount of EC that is costs/sells for that really makes me think.
It's virtual currency, comes and goes - as long as you are not dishing out real dough for the thing, everything else goes. May take some time to reach 300 to 400 million, but not impossible.
EC is worthless other than to buy Lock Boxes ships and some minor premium equipment, mainly Mk XII consoles and weapons with procs you cannot find at the Fleet Starbase.
So if you have 300 million +, why not spend it if you desite the ship, its virtual currency and a worthless one at best - as I said, EC holds some value due to Lock Box ships.
Count your blessings, Neverwinter currency system is indeed pitiful - Their Gold is indeed 100% worthless
yep and tbh bugs come and go I buy doff packs for doffs now not the bugs, but I have gotten quite a few.
timeships, bugs, andorians are best fed ships,
-Spells
Oh, don't even get me started on the blasted Wells. That thing can be nigh unkillable, and shut down its targets. Incredibly irritating trying to kill a skilled player in a Wells. Or the Mobius, that's a pretty good escort with the exception of its lower turning rate.
Andorian ships? Forget about trying to absorb the impact of those alphastrikes in a flimsy BoP like mine. I've had those suckers blow me up with Tactical Team + EPtS1 running.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
Clearly, you didn't read my post thoroughly. I specifically stated ESCORT. The Birds of Prey are not escorts. I also stated that the BoPs do turn faster, but they really don't match the JHAS in a face-to-face confrontation.
Yea BoPs should get bug specs and battlecloak ...that is fine ...no problem with that.
The Fleet Patrol Escort does not have the same boff layout. It *could* have the same layout, if the person flying the JHAS uses the LT slots as engineering and sci (likely, but they could choose to go another route), and the Fleet Patrol Escort pilot uses the universal ensign slot as an engineering slot. They are similar, not the same. Big honkin' difference when it comes to PvP. Hence why I stressed 'flexibility'.
so people use bug ships with defiant boff layout .Then bug ship is a defiant and defiant is the best ship and op.
If a single beam boat carrier can take out a JHAS, then the JHAS pilot is incompetent. That's the far more likely scenario. I've seen the JHAS in the hands of people who REALLY know how to use the game mechanics, and they throw off one debilitating effect after another.
No it means you dont know how to use your carrier.
I also did not specifically state it was 'OP'. I said it was the best escort in the game, and anyone with a few functioning brain cells would agree. That's why people shell out hundreds of million of EC for it.
Best at what?
Defiant with 3 romulan boffs will have more crtH and is good for premades with healers (also has cloak and is used to spike your ship out of existence)
Steamrunner is alot tankier than the bug and fleet patrol.
The Fleet Patrol Escort would be the 2nd choice after the JHAS. It's a very good escort, the main disadvantage it has vs. the JHAS is the turning rate. That turning rate is everything when it comes to escorts facing off against each other.
So after you nerf/remove the bug ship you have to remove/nerf fleet patrol.
When you done removing ships from game please give a sign on the forums .The game will be Pong Online.
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so 40% of people use a ship thats maybe available to 4% ?I see more defiants ,mvae and mobius in pvp than bug ships....and thats because those ships are not that rare.
If you see the same person with a bug ship 10000 times that doesnt meant 10,000 people have it.
Wrong.
The BoP has a higher turn rate and the fleet patrol has the same boff layout.
Just because YOU can't compete against it does not make it op. Even a beam boat carrier will easily take one out if you know what your doing.
Clearly, you didn't read my post thoroughly. I specifically stated ESCORT. The Birds of Prey are not escorts. I also stated that the BoPs do turn faster, but they really don't match the JHAS in a face-to-face confrontation.
The Fleet Patrol Escort does not have the same boff layout. It *could* have the same layout, if the person flying the JHAS uses the LT slots as engineering and sci (likely, but they could choose to go another route), and the Fleet Patrol Escort pilot uses the universal ensign slot as an engineering slot. They are similar, not the same. Big honkin' difference when it comes to PvP. Hence why I stressed 'flexibility'.
If a single beam boat carrier can take out a JHAS, then the JHAS pilot is incompetent. That's the far more likely scenario. I've seen the JHAS in the hands of people who REALLY know how to use the game mechanics, and they throw off one debilitating effect after another.
I also did not specifically state it was 'OP'. I said it was the best escort in the game, and anyone with a few functioning brain cells would agree. That's why people shell out hundreds of million of EC for it.
The Fleet Patrol Escort would be the 2nd choice after the JHAS. It's a very good escort, the main disadvantage it has vs. the JHAS is the turning rate. That turning rate is everything when it comes to escorts facing off against each other.
I would love to fly it, I just can't justify the cost. 100 Million and I would be doing runs against tact cubes in it now.
Its that crazy amount of EC that is costs/sells for that really makes me think.
It's virtual currency, comes and goes - as long as you are not dishing out real dough for the thing, everything else goes. May take some time to reach 300 to 400 million, but not impossible.
EC is worthless other than to buy Lock Boxes ships and some minor premium equipment, mainly Mk XII consoles and weapons with procs you cannot find at the Fleet Starbase.
So if you have 300 million +, why not spend it if you desite the ship, its virtual currency and a worthless one at best - as I said, EC holds some value due to Lock Box ships.
Count your blessings, Neverwinter currency system is indeed pitiful - Their Gold is indeed 100% worthless
timeships, bugs, andorians are best fed ships,
-Spells
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Oh, don't even get me started on the blasted Wells. That thing can be nigh unkillable, and shut down its targets. Incredibly irritating trying to kill a skilled player in a Wells. Or the Mobius, that's a pretty good escort with the exception of its lower turning rate.
Andorian ships? Forget about trying to absorb the impact of those alphastrikes in a flimsy BoP like mine. I've had those suckers blow me up with Tactical Team + EPtS1 running.
Yea BoPs should get bug specs and battlecloak ...that is fine ...no problem with that.
so people use bug ships with defiant boff layout .Then bug ship is a defiant and defiant is the best ship and op.
No it means you dont know how to use your carrier.
Best at what?
Defiant with 3 romulan boffs will have more crtH and is good for premades with healers (also has cloak and is used to spike your ship out of existence)
Steamrunner is alot tankier than the bug and fleet patrol.
So after you nerf/remove the bug ship you have to remove/nerf fleet patrol.
When you done removing ships from game please give a sign on the forums .The game will be Pong Online.