I payed 25 bucks for it the day the were put in the C-store i feel all that Bought the ship should be giveing transwarp drive core that is what the Excelsior came with
The T5 Excelsior doesn't come with a special console. Instead, the Transwarp Core and it's bonuses are an innate addition to the ship, meaning you'll always have it, and can never be removed
I've tested and confirmed this for my recently-gotten Excelsior on Tribble
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I payed 25 bucks for it the day the were put in the C-store i feel all that Bought the ship should be giveing transwarp drive core that is what the Excelsior came with
You no longer have all your transwarp destinations? Are you sure? You should log into the game and double check.
Unless they got around to changing it if you look at the t5 excelsior on the c-store it says it comes with a console but it never did.
It doesn't say it has the console anymore, they fixed that shortly after season 5 when they dropped the console.
It does say it has an "Advanced Transwarp Drive." That's not an item, but an innate ability - when you're in it, click your transwarp menu and you'll have substantially more destinations than the two you usually have.
Per STO Wiki, the Tier 3 Excelsior used to come with a [Console - Universal - Transwarp Drive Coil], but this is no longer available. It has been replaced with the inferior [Console - Universal - Transwarp Computer] which offers transwarp to:
Sirius Sector Block
Regulus Sector Block
Pi Canis Sector Block
As already mentioned above, the Tier 5 innately offers transwarp to:
Alpha Centauri Sector Block
Sirius Sector Block
Regulus Sector Block
Pi Canis Sector Block
Psi Velorum Sector Block
Iota Pavonis Sector Block
Eta Eridani Sector Block
Beta Ursae Sector Block
Alpha Trianguli Sector Block
Wasn't Tau Dewa recently added to the T5 destinations as well?
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Yeah, T5 Excelsiors can transwarp to Tau Dewa out of the box now.
The problem with the way they tried to implement the T3 and T5 Excelsior consoles during the F2P conversion was three fold. First, the T5 console did not include the Sirius,
Regulus, or Pi Canis transwarp destinations, they were exclusive to the T3 console. Second, you had already had purchased the T5 Excelsior for $25 you had to spend another $10 and buy the T3 version just to get back the 3 transwarp powers you had previously paid for. Third, you had to equip both consoles, giving up two valuable console slots, just to retain access to all the transwarp destinations you previously had.
The whole thing felt like a money grab and an insult to those of us who had purchased the T5 prior to F2P even being conceived.
The T5 Excelsior doesn't come with a special console. Instead, the Transwarp Core and it's bonuses are an innate addition to the ship, meaning you'll always have it, and can never be removed
I've tested and confirmed this for my recently-gotten Excelsior on Tribble
You mean it's not tied to the Warp Core slot at all?
You mean it's not tied to the Warp Core slot at all?
No. Warp has nothing to do with Transwarp.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Supposedly some high mk warp cores can have modifiers that apply to transwarp cooldown or slipstream speed, but aside from that, transwarp is a separate thing tied to other things - either innate powers (transwarp and slipstream) or impulse engines (MACO and Borg).
I haven't used my T3 Excelsior in a looooong time. Does the Transwarp still fail, occasionally, to simulate the Ent B from the movie?
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Test it yourself, go into space with any other ship, check your weapons perforamnce/shields/engine/aux.
now go switch your ship to the excelsior and check again.
same exact values, the bonus is broken/non existent on the ship.
in short, the description in the c-store is a lie, and has been for a very very long time.
Don't all ships at that tier have a particular bonus to a subsystem or two? The excel is supposed to have +5 to all? Which is a cruiser thing right? What am I supposed to compare it to? My escort? So if the Excel has less weapons power, then the testing proves the bonus is there?
The original T3 Excelsior had a Transwarp console which all your transwarp abilities were tied to. The thing was, it had no actual ship restrictions on it, so you could add it to your T5+1 ship and have those abilities.
My memory is fuzzy, but I think players only had a transwarp to their home system by default, or just the three base ones. It also had an hour-long cooldown. The console had no cooldown, and more destinations than other ships, so you could zip from one end of the map to another.
Edit: Actually, I think zulisvel had it right: the T3 had the console for the basic three transwarps, while the T5 actually had an inherent ability for the other three. To get all six, you had to buy both ships. The console also had bonuses to some of your space skills.
When Season 5 gave everyone a basic set of three transwarps, they changed the console to one that just cuts your cooldown on transwarp abilities. The ship inherently gets the "bonus" transwarp locations, so putting your console on another ship just reduces its transwarp cooldown. Not as awesome, but still useful.
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Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Don't all ships at that tier have a particular bonus to a subsystem or two? The excel is supposed to have +5 to all? Which is a cruiser thing right? What am I supposed to compare it to? My escort? So if the Excel has less weapons power, then the testing proves the bonus is there?
Not straight power levels but performance levels, as in the skill your character puts into.
I have 89 performance skill level for weapons/shields/engines. in all ships
now if the excelsior actually gave the bonuses it claims to, those skills should be at least +7.5 higher (what the old console gave at min, it scaled with level)
So I should have 96.5 min performance skills in those systems, yet I do not. Im still flying around at 89 skill level in the excelsior.
It doesn't say it has the console anymore, they fixed that shortly after season 5 when they dropped the console.
It does say it has an "Advanced Transwarp Drive." That's not an item, but an innate ability - when you're in it, click your transwarp menu and you'll have substantially more destinations than the two you usually have.
This.
The lower tier version (captain I think) has a console. The higher tier had the console removed, and the abilities directly integrated into the ship itself awhile back. That's a good thing because you don't have to waste a precious console slot for it now.
The lower tier version (captain I think) has a console. The higher tier had the console removed, and the abilities directly integrated into the ship itself awhile back. That's a good thing because you don't have to waste a precious console slot for it now.
except its not, they only integrated the transwarp locations itself, not the bonus performance skill levels (which it still claims to give when you buy the ship)
I payed 25 bucks for it the day the were put in the C-store i feel all that Bought the ship should be giveing transwarp drive core that is what the Excelsior came with
Actually, the T3 description on the store clearly states it's not the same skill bonuses, it's an engine and cooldown bonus:
The Advanced Heavy Cruiser has a Transwarp ability that allows instant travel to the Regulus, Sirius or Pi Canis Sector Blocks at no cost. It also comes equipped with a Transwarp Computer Console. This console grants the ship a passive bonus to Starship Warp Core Efficiency that scales with level as well as reducing the recharge time of all Transwarp travel abilities.
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Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Actually, the T3 description on the store clearly states it's not the same skill bonuses, it's an engine and cooldown bonus:
He's referring to the power level boost of the Retrofit, which you won't find on your character sheet since it'll be your power levels in system space.
Effectively, the Retrofit gets +12.6 to Weapons, Shields, Engines and Aux instead of the usual +5.
The Enterprise B didn't have a broken transwarp drive. It had a broken everything else.
(It didn't have a transwarp drive at all, but the joke doesn't flow right that way)
Not broken, just simply not installed till Tuesday
But actually, both Excelsior's Transwarp Drives can (very) occasionally fail, as a little joke to the similar incident. I've only seen it once in-game, but it was funny as hell
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The T3 comes with a Transwarp Core Computer.
So what exactly were you saying that you paid $25 for and didn't (aren't) going to get?
mine hade the Advanced Transwarp Console it was RA one
I've tested and confirmed this for my recently-gotten Excelsior on Tribble
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
You no longer have all your transwarp destinations? Are you sure? You should log into the game and double check.
It doesn't say it has the console anymore, they fixed that shortly after season 5 when they dropped the console.
It does say it has an "Advanced Transwarp Drive." That's not an item, but an innate ability - when you're in it, click your transwarp menu and you'll have substantially more destinations than the two you usually have.
As already mentioned above, the Tier 5 innately offers transwarp to:
http://i.imgur.com/9GlZ6PD.png
bonus power listed in image above.
The problem with the way they tried to implement the T3 and T5 Excelsior consoles during the F2P conversion was three fold. First, the T5 console did not include the Sirius,
Regulus, or Pi Canis transwarp destinations, they were exclusive to the T3 console. Second, you had already had purchased the T5 Excelsior for $25 you had to spend another $10 and buy the T3 version just to get back the 3 transwarp powers you had previously paid for. Third, you had to equip both consoles, giving up two valuable console slots, just to retain access to all the transwarp destinations you previously had.
The whole thing felt like a money grab and an insult to those of us who had purchased the T5 prior to F2P even being conceived.
(they were tied into the T5 console, so once they decided to remove it, bye bye bonus power)
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Console_-_Universal_-_Advanced_Transwarp_Drive_Coil
Many have complained about this numerous times on the gameplay bugs page, and reported it, but they don't seem to care.
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...that would be a failure of the tractor beam (won't be installed till tuesday).
I think you mean the Excelsior in Star trek III.;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRf1zI2IoWQ
Yes still does, and it was the Original NX 2000 Excelsior not the Enterprise B
(It didn't have a transwarp drive at all, but the joke doesn't flow right that way)
Thought they made that bonus innate?
Test it yourself, go into space with any other ship, check your weapons perforamnce/shields/engine/aux.
now go switch your ship to the excelsior and check again.
same exact values, the bonus is broken/non existent on the ship.
in short, the description in the c-store is a lie, and has been for a very very long time.
Don't all ships at that tier have a particular bonus to a subsystem or two? The excel is supposed to have +5 to all? Which is a cruiser thing right? What am I supposed to compare it to? My escort? So if the Excel has less weapons power, then the testing proves the bonus is there?
My memory is fuzzy, but I think players only had a transwarp to their home system by default, or just the three base ones. It also had an hour-long cooldown. The console had no cooldown, and more destinations than other ships, so you could zip from one end of the map to another.
Edit: Actually, I think zulisvel had it right: the T3 had the console for the basic three transwarps, while the T5 actually had an inherent ability for the other three. To get all six, you had to buy both ships. The console also had bonuses to some of your space skills.
When Season 5 gave everyone a basic set of three transwarps, they changed the console to one that just cuts your cooldown on transwarp abilities. The ship inherently gets the "bonus" transwarp locations, so putting your console on another ship just reduces its transwarp cooldown. Not as awesome, but still useful.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Not straight power levels but performance levels, as in the skill your character puts into.
I have 89 performance skill level for weapons/shields/engines. in all ships
now if the excelsior actually gave the bonuses it claims to, those skills should be at least +7.5 higher (what the old console gave at min, it scaled with level)
So I should have 96.5 min performance skills in those systems, yet I do not. Im still flying around at 89 skill level in the excelsior.
This.
The lower tier version (captain I think) has a console. The higher tier had the console removed, and the abilities directly integrated into the ship itself awhile back. That's a good thing because you don't have to waste a precious console slot for it now.
except its not, they only integrated the transwarp locations itself, not the bonus performance skill levels (which it still claims to give when you buy the ship)
Actually, the T3 description on the store clearly states it's not the same skill bonuses, it's an engine and cooldown bonus:
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
He's referring to the power level boost of the Retrofit, which you won't find on your character sheet since it'll be your power levels in system space.
Effectively, the Retrofit gets +12.6 to Weapons, Shields, Engines and Aux instead of the usual +5.
But actually, both Excelsior's Transwarp Drives can (very) occasionally fail, as a little joke to the similar incident. I've only seen it once in-game, but it was funny as hell
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.