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Transwarp drive core for the excelsior we payed for please

osena109osena109 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
I payed 25 bucks for it the day the were put in the C-store i feel all that Bought the ship should be giveing transwarp drive core that is what the Excelsior came with
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  • pingaheadpingahead Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Not sure what ship you bought. Neither the T5 nor the Fleet come with a Special Console.
    The T3 comes with a Transwarp Core Computer.

    So what exactly were you saying that you paid $25 for and didn't (aren't) going to get?
  • osena109osena109 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    pingahead wrote: »
    Not sure what ship you bought. Neither the T5 nor the Fleet come with a Special Console.
    The T3 comes with a Transwarp Core Computer.

    So what exactly were you saying that you paid $25 for and didn't (aren't) going to get?

    mine hade the Advanced Transwarp Console it was RA one
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The T5 Excelsior doesn't come with a special console. Instead, the Transwarp Core and it's bonuses are an innate addition to the ship, meaning you'll always have it, and can never be removed

    I've tested and confirmed this for my recently-gotten Excelsior on Tribble ;)
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Unless they got around to changing it if you look at the t5 excelsior on the c-store it says it comes with a console but it never did.
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    osena109 wrote: »
    I payed 25 bucks for it the day the were put in the C-store i feel all that Bought the ship should be giveing transwarp drive core that is what the Excelsior came with

    You no longer have all your transwarp destinations? Are you sure? You should log into the game and double check.
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Unless they got around to changing it if you look at the t5 excelsior on the c-store it says it comes with a console but it never did.



    It doesn't say it has the console anymore, they fixed that shortly after season 5 when they dropped the console.

    It does say it has an "Advanced Transwarp Drive." That's not an item, but an innate ability - when you're in it, click your transwarp menu and you'll have substantially more destinations than the two you usually have.
  • redsnake721redsnake721 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    My Fleet Excelsior can transwarp anywhere with no console the abilities are built in
  • zulisvelzulisvel Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think the OP wants them to make a specal Transwarp core and retroactively plug them in all T5 'celsiors when LoR goes live on Holodeck.
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Per STO Wiki, the Tier 3 Excelsior used to come with a [Console - Universal - Transwarp Drive Coil], but this is no longer available. It has been replaced with the inferior [Console - Universal - Transwarp Computer] which offers transwarp to:
    • Sirius Sector Block
    • Regulus Sector Block
    • Pi Canis Sector Block

    As already mentioned above, the Tier 5 innately offers transwarp to:
    • Alpha Centauri Sector Block
    • Sirius Sector Block
    • Regulus Sector Block
    • Pi Canis Sector Block
    • Psi Velorum Sector Block
    • Iota Pavonis Sector Block
    • Eta Eridani Sector Block
    • Beta Ursae Sector Block
    • Alpha Trianguli Sector Block
    Wasn't Tau Dewa recently added to the T5 destinations as well?
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  • shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    One thing they have never fixed since the skill change is the bonus power on the T5 excelsior.

    http://i.imgur.com/9GlZ6PD.png

    bonus power listed in image above.
  • zulisvelzulisvel Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yeah, T5 Excelsiors can transwarp to Tau Dewa out of the box now.

    The problem with the way they tried to implement the T3 and T5 Excelsior consoles during the F2P conversion was three fold. First, the T5 console did not include the Sirius,
    Regulus, or Pi Canis transwarp destinations, they were exclusive to the T3 console. Second, you had already had purchased the T5 Excelsior for $25 you had to spend another $10 and buy the T3 version just to get back the 3 transwarp powers you had previously paid for. Third, you had to equip both consoles, giving up two valuable console slots, just to retain access to all the transwarp destinations you previously had.

    The whole thing felt like a money grab and an insult to those of us who had purchased the T5 prior to F2P even being conceived.
  • shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sucks we have never gotten the bonus power levels back on the T5 version, we paid for it, it still lists it, but they have never fixed it.

    (they were tied into the T5 console, so once they decided to remove it, bye bye bonus power)

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Console_-_Universal_-_Advanced_Transwarp_Drive_Coil

    Many have complained about this numerous times on the gameplay bugs page, and reported it, but they don't seem to care.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    trek21 wrote: »
    The T5 Excelsior doesn't come with a special console. Instead, the Transwarp Core and it's bonuses are an innate addition to the ship, meaning you'll always have it, and can never be removed

    I've tested and confirmed this for my recently-gotten Excelsior on Tribble ;)
    You mean it's not tied to the Warp Core slot at all?
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    orangeitis wrote: »
    You mean it's not tied to the Warp Core slot at all?
    No. Warp has nothing to do with Transwarp.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Supposedly some high mk warp cores can have modifiers that apply to transwarp cooldown or slipstream speed, but aside from that, transwarp is a separate thing tied to other things - either innate powers (transwarp and slipstream) or impulse engines (MACO and Borg).
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I haven't used my T3 Excelsior in a looooong time. Does the Transwarp still fail, occasionally, to simulate the Ent B from the movie?
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I haven't used my T3 Excelsior in a looooong time. Does the Transwarp still fail, occasionally, to simulate the Ent B from the movie?

    ...that would be a failure of the tractor beam (won't be installed till tuesday).
    I think you mean the Excelsior in Star trek III.;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRf1zI2IoWQ
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I haven't used my T3 Excelsior in a looooong time. Does the Transwarp still fail, occasionally, to simulate the Ent B from the movie?

    Yes still does, and it was the Original NX 2000 Excelsior not the Enterprise B :D
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Enterprise B didn't have a broken transwarp drive. It had a broken everything else.


    (It didn't have a transwarp drive at all, but the joke doesn't flow right that way)
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    One thing they have never fixed since the skill change is the bonus power on the T5 excelsior.

    http://i.imgur.com/9GlZ6PD.png

    bonus power listed in image above.

    Thought they made that bonus innate?
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  • zulisvelzulisvel Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    They did. But since it's innate there's no real way for players to test it.
  • shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Thought they made that bonus innate?

    Test it yourself, go into space with any other ship, check your weapons perforamnce/shields/engine/aux.

    now go switch your ship to the excelsior and check again.

    same exact values, the bonus is broken/non existent on the ship.

    in short, the description in the c-store is a lie, and has been for a very very long time.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Test it yourself, go into space with any other ship, check your weapons perforamnce/shields/engine/aux.

    now go switch your ship to the excelsior and check again.

    same exact values, the bonus is broken/non existent on the ship.

    in short, the description in the c-store is a lie, and has been for a very very long time.

    Don't all ships at that tier have a particular bonus to a subsystem or two? The excel is supposed to have +5 to all? Which is a cruiser thing right? What am I supposed to compare it to? My escort? So if the Excel has less weapons power, then the testing proves the bonus is there?
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  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The original T3 Excelsior had a Transwarp console which all your transwarp abilities were tied to. The thing was, it had no actual ship restrictions on it, so you could add it to your T5+1 ship and have those abilities.

    My memory is fuzzy, but I think players only had a transwarp to their home system by default, or just the three base ones. It also had an hour-long cooldown. The console had no cooldown, and more destinations than other ships, so you could zip from one end of the map to another.

    Edit: Actually, I think zulisvel had it right: the T3 had the console for the basic three transwarps, while the T5 actually had an inherent ability for the other three. To get all six, you had to buy both ships. The console also had bonuses to some of your space skills.

    When Season 5 gave everyone a basic set of three transwarps, they changed the console to one that just cuts your cooldown on transwarp abilities. The ship inherently gets the "bonus" transwarp locations, so putting your console on another ship just reduces its transwarp cooldown. Not as awesome, but still useful.
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  • shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Don't all ships at that tier have a particular bonus to a subsystem or two? The excel is supposed to have +5 to all? Which is a cruiser thing right? What am I supposed to compare it to? My escort? So if the Excel has less weapons power, then the testing proves the bonus is there?



    Not straight power levels but performance levels, as in the skill your character puts into.

    I have 89 performance skill level for weapons/shields/engines. in all ships

    now if the excelsior actually gave the bonuses it claims to, those skills should be at least +7.5 higher (what the old console gave at min, it scaled with level)

    So I should have 96.5 min performance skills in those systems, yet I do not. Im still flying around at 89 skill level in the excelsior.
  • shredder75shredder75 Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    hevach wrote: »
    It doesn't say it has the console anymore, they fixed that shortly after season 5 when they dropped the console.

    It does say it has an "Advanced Transwarp Drive." That's not an item, but an innate ability - when you're in it, click your transwarp menu and you'll have substantially more destinations than the two you usually have.

    This.

    The lower tier version (captain I think) has a console. The higher tier had the console removed, and the abilities directly integrated into the ship itself awhile back. That's a good thing because you don't have to waste a precious console slot for it now.
  • shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shredder75 wrote: »
    This.

    The lower tier version (captain I think) has a console. The higher tier had the console removed, and the abilities directly integrated into the ship itself awhile back. That's a good thing because you don't have to waste a precious console slot for it now.

    except its not, they only integrated the transwarp locations itself, not the bonus performance skill levels (which it still claims to give when you buy the ship)
  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    osena109 wrote: »
    I payed 25 bucks for it the day the were put in the C-store i feel all that Bought the ship should be giveing transwarp drive core that is what the Excelsior came with

    Actually, the T3 description on the store clearly states it's not the same skill bonuses, it's an engine and cooldown bonus:
    The Advanced Heavy Cruiser has a Transwarp ability that allows instant travel to the Regulus, Sirius or Pi Canis Sector Blocks at no cost. It also comes equipped with a Transwarp Computer Console. This console grants the ship a passive bonus to Starship Warp Core Efficiency that scales with level as well as reducing the recharge time of all Transwarp travel abilities.
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  • shredder75shredder75 Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Actually, the T3 description on the store clearly states it's not the same skill bonuses, it's an engine and cooldown bonus:

    He's referring to the power level boost of the Retrofit, which you won't find on your character sheet since it'll be your power levels in system space.

    Effectively, the Retrofit gets +12.6 to Weapons, Shields, Engines and Aux instead of the usual +5.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    hevach wrote: »
    The Enterprise B didn't have a broken transwarp drive. It had a broken everything else.


    (It didn't have a transwarp drive at all, but the joke doesn't flow right that way)
    Not broken, just simply not installed till Tuesday ;)

    But actually, both Excelsior's Transwarp Drives can (very) occasionally fail, as a little joke to the similar incident. I've only seen it once in-game, but it was funny as hell :D
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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