I was just curious, if the RP is dead in STO. I have been gone for sometime and decided to come back and see what all has changed since I left. However I could not help but wonder if the RP is still around or not in the game, and if so where is it generally found these days. If anyone feels like responding that would be fantastic.
cool cool, I remember back in the day... about 2 years ago or so, DS9 was the place as I recall shard number 9 was the unofficial RP shard, but I do not know if that is the case any longer.
There was a blog about a huge RP community not long ago.
People also do it randomly throughout places like DS9/Bajor/Drozana ETC.
Ask around, see if anyone can point you in the right direction.
Ehhh...I wouldn't consider Drozana an RP hub...unless your idea of RP is a bunch of morons running around god-modding, dozens of half-naked Orions dancing on tables and soliciting cybersex, and trolls. As an RPer myself, I never set foot on Drozana...ever. I feel the need to take a shower just flying past it.
Ehhh...I wouldn't consider Drozana an RP hub...unless your idea of RP is a bunch of morons running around god-modding, dozens of half-naked Orions dancing on tables and soliciting cybersex, and trolls. As an RPer myself, I never set foot on Drozana...ever. I feel the need to take a shower just flying past it.
Well before Dental took over and all the other crazies I would see actual RP sometimes.
Ehhh...I wouldn't consider Drozana an RP hub...unless your idea of RP is a bunch of morons running around god-modding, dozens of half-naked Orions dancing on tables and soliciting cybersex, and trolls. As an RPer myself, I never set foot on Drozana...ever. I feel the need to take a shower just flying past it.
Ugh, Drozana is the reason my female Orion character's alternate costume makes her look like someone who shops at Wal-Mart at 2:00 AM. Stupid Devidian missions.
Somebody getting uppity about canon? No problem! Just take a deep breath, and repeat after me:
Agreed, Drozana is annoying as hell. It's not RP, it's a bunch of bored kids standing on counters spamming party poppers and talking about their character's buttcracks. Seriously.
I've never managed to find a decent RP-based fleet. The fleet search tool is useless, because the majority of fleets select every possible tag to recruit as many people as possible and maximize their dilithium income. There may be moderate+ RP fleets out there, but I haven't found them.
That said, Quark's is semi-reliable as an RP hub. I suggest you check there.
well I reckon I will keep my eyes open for something. I know in the past some RP has been a challenge. I just wanna find some RP that is not either hyper-silly, or some bizarre Sub/Dom, S&M, Vulcan Love Slave. A happy medium would be a nice change of pace.
People also do it randomly throughout places like DS9/Bajor/Drozana ETC.
I have to admit, some of the random RP I've run into on DS9 kind of creeps me out. I had to do a mission in Quark's the other day, and actually realized that I've been actively avoiding Quark's for quite some time now.
I suppose it happens sometimes and somewhere... I rarely see people talk at all outside of the hubs and with the Chat-Ban abuse crud going on I bet it is even less popular to openly RP these days...
I, for one, welcome RP but I never really get involved in any because it just never seems to come up. Of course the canon annihilating ways of Cryptic do somewhat make it hard...
I suppose it happens sometimes and somewhere... I rarely see people talk at all outside of the hubs and with the Chat-Ban abuse crud going on I bet it is even less popular to openly RP these days...
I, for one, welcome RP but I never really get involved in any because it just never seems to come up. Of course the canon annihilating ways of Cryptic do somewhat make it hard...
I believe most role players avoid Drozona at this point, because of the aforementioned trolls. However, the RP community is still here. A number of us are working to try and forge stronger ties between fleets, so that we can make role play more accessible both for our members, and the freelancers.
I have yet to find a decent rp fleet. The only one's I have found are super strict as in you can't do story missions and what not, once you are in the fleet you do what the fleet says.
Almost everything I've ever said in chat has been in-character.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
I have yet to find a decent rp fleet. The only one's I have found are super strict as in you can't do story missions and what not, once you are in the fleet you do what the fleet says.
Not my style.
Here's the thing:
Directly involving your character in the game's story is bad etiquette. Not only is it unoriginal, but you're putting yourself on a pedestal above other players by claiming that you're the canon character. Putting the game's plot in your history is frowned upon for this very reason.
Indirect participation? Workable in some areas. Maybe you were one of the officers on Vega Colony who helped evacuate the civilians, maybe you were serving aboard one of the ships in orbit. Perhaps your ship was among the fleet that helped distract the Dominion forces at Deep Space Nine while Commander Winters took his shuttle through the wormhole.
The point is that you shouldn't be trying to make yourself the Captain. Leave that to some unnamed ship and crew and come up with your own history.
Directly involving your character in the game's story is bad etiquette. Not only is it unoriginal, but you're putting yourself on a pedestal above other players by claiming that you're the canon character. Putting the game's plot in your history is frowned upon for this very reason.
Indirect participation? Workable in some areas. Maybe you were one of the officers on Vega Colony who helped evacuate the civilians, maybe you were serving aboard one of the ships in orbit. Perhaps your ship was among the fleet that helped distract the Dominion forces at Deep Space Nine while Commander Winters took his shuttle through the wormhole.
The point is that you shouldn't be trying to make yourself the Captain. Leave that to some unnamed ship and crew and come up with your own history.
I'm not trying to make myself 'canon'.
I simply would like to play the storyline missions within the game. I'd love to rp on the side to when not doing the story lines. I'm not trying to put myself on a pedestal nor claiming to be the captain. You're awful presumptuous simply on the fact I like to play the video game's single player storyline.
I find it every sad that a few bad apples are spoiling or in this case putting a label on a whole group of players in this game RPers for the most part are in to making their own storyline which is exciting and new. I believe if you check the foundry look could find some missions for role playing and reach out to the author to see what their group is about and possible join.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Check out "Welcome to the 77th" in the foundry!!!!
By allowing them to continue you are sending the message that organized trolling and game abuse is permitted and condoned. You don't tolerate other sorts of spammers... yet you tolerate them.
This plus public solicitation of ERP. I would like to play my Orion toon without the creep-factor.
Start logging the LOCAL channel and reviewing some of the dialog in places like Drozana.
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That said I RP with a fleet, and I know where to go for random RP. Look me up in game my @ name is similar to my forum name, I'm @captain_ rather than The. I will RP with you or point you to some RP going on.
The majority of RP I engage in happens at Bajor, happens at Quarks, and on the starbase.
Some other possiblities for RP that are OFTEN overlooked -- SB39 up in Romulan Space, K-7, The Captain's Table, portions of New Rom...
If RP isn't happening grab some friends and MAKE it happen. Involve people, act out a story and go for it.
This leads to another point: Many of the people I know who complain about the lack of RP play quiet reserved socially isolated characters who sit there and interject the occasional ... or *sigh*. We try to engage them, but they insist on playing the isolation. You need to be outgoing and respond to hooks and interaction.
In conclusion, there is a serious organized troll problem in this game that the company seems to ignore or condone. There are plenty of places to RP right now off the beaten path, you have to be ready to make the RP happen though.
I simply would like to play the storyline missions within the game. I'd love to rp on the side to when not doing the story lines. I'm not trying to put myself on a pedestal nor claiming to be the captain. You're awful presumptuous simply on the fact I like to play the video game's single player storyline.
Then why did you mention it within the context of roleplaying? The Fleets I know of don't have any problems assisting people with playing through the story to level up, so long as it's out of character.
I'd love to see some social zone hubs without game services.. No mail, venders etc..
That is specificly to encourage social activity. The Captains table would be a good location for it, but unfortunatly its not a place with universal access to all players. Studio will do something with the place in the future as its original intended use died at launch. It was originally intended as a place in game where Life Time Membership players and devs could socialize and interact. Never worked out that away. The question was put to the player base and the majority won. I personally would have never put it to any kind of vote or opinion.
As for current RP hubs.
Some happens now and again at ESD's club 47 in even with "Live" dj shows for the various and assorted net radio stations that cater to the STO player (subspace radio, trek radio etc etc etc.) Quarks is a bit more stable of an RP hub then Drozana. RP still happens at Drozana but frankly more griefing of RP tends to happen that RP and it would be a veryvery very good idea to actually have an in game GAME MASTER monitoring chat at Drozana so even if it cant be stopped, it could at least get moderated.
There are non role players who seem to thing that RP is some sort of joke and apparently don't take the entire premise of Star Trek seriously. in a nut shell.. If the Tek universe was real, most of thoose griefer types would not be wearing a star fleet uniform. They would have been discharged for conduct unbecoming some time ago.
The RP is there. You'll just need to be patient to find it.
I personally choose to play my characters with in the limitations of the fations.. My characters are star ship captains, so I conduct my self with the appropriate dignity of the office.
There are of course folks like the fleet "Star Fleet Dental" who seem to have an issue with players that RP.. and they are tyranical about it, and have and will griefed a number of RP events social and otherwise, and have griefed non RP social events such as Subspace Radio's DJ Grom show from Drozana on Tuesdays (lots of Orion gals dancing on the bar in the Dabo room around a Ferengi named Grom, and if your picking up the net feed lots of stories, humor, music, activities, and occasionaly contests and goodies.. No one is excluded.... unless of course they are being unmitigated jerks... ie: star Fleet Dental.
Whose activities are so disruptive that If I see someone with the fleet tag, I put them on ignore list. If I go into a mission and a starfleet dental member is in it, I pass a message to the team leader, and exit. I absolutly refuse to associate with a fleet that make such an ongoing effort "As A Fleet" to grief other folks recreation.
I haven't been playing for the last 3 months (real world) But I hear they haven't changed at all.
It isn't dead, its just very hush hush thanks to the trolling and the fact that many don't want to be associated with the frankly horrible RP that happens in places like Drozana.
If you want good RP in STO you'll likely have to look for a private fleet, 'open' 'freelancer' RP will almost always be met with people who are the REAL captains of the enterprise and have killed over a billion klingons in space vietnam.
I mean hey, my character isn't any better (Ex-TIC 29th century captain complete with fully working timeship working for section 31) but I rarely role-play anyways, can never really find it.
By allowing them to continue you are sending the message that organized trolling and game abuse is permitted and condoned. You don't tolerate other sorts of spammers... yet you tolerate them.
This plus public solicitation of ERP. I would like to play my Orion toon without the creep-factor.
Start logging the LOCAL channel and reviewing some of the dialog in places like Drozana.
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That said I RP with a fleet, and I know where to go for random RP. Look me up in game my @ name is similar to my forum name, I'm @captain_ rather than The. I will RP with you or point you to some RP going on.
The majority of RP I engage in happens at Bajor, happens at Quarks, and on the starbase.
Some other possiblities for RP that are OFTEN overlooked -- SB39 up in Romulan Space, K-7, The Captain's Table, portions of New Rom...
If RP isn't happening grab some friends and MAKE it happen. Involve people, act out a story and go for it.
This leads to another point: Many of the people I know who complain about the lack of RP play quiet reserved socially isolated characters who sit there and interject the occasional ... or *sigh*. We try to engage them, but they insist on playing the isolation. You need to be outgoing and respond to hooks and interaction.
In conclusion, there is a serious organized troll problem in this game that the company seems to ignore or condone. There are plenty of places to RP right now off the beaten path, you have to be ready to make the RP happen though.
Look at this naming and shaming. This is the sort of abusive behaviour we have been trying to stamp out. Constant attacks and discrimination against us because we are the best roleplaying fleet on the server. It's pure jealousy.
Dental would like to carry on with their RP without being interrupted or harassed by public erotic roleplayers, and other players with some unusual agendas.
I am well aware of areas used by actual roleplayers but Dental rarely visits those locations as we carry out serious business roleplaying in private instances. We do party publicly though, and spread the fun. Something I'll never understand is the number of players that hate fun in this game. It is a stretch but if you look inside we're golden, and we will rain down happiness on you.
In relation to social hubs there are areas which are social hubs and they go mostly unused. Deleting or providing no services in these areas will not really help as it would provide more reason for roleplayers not to visit.
The biggest problem you have with RP in STO, is the biggest problem you have with RP in every MMO out there.
No Roleplayer agrees exactly what RP means, and what is acceptable. So the RP Community tends to polarize, and then begin to infight.
I'm as guilty of it as everyone else. You try to be open minded, you try and RP where you want, but inevitably, you tend to become something of an RP snob, and RP with those like minded individuals that have the same RP "feel" as you do.
So now, most RP seems to happen within Fleets, on their Starbases and their Embassies. If it happens at all outside of there, its usually on DS9, at least until the trolls come out, or you get tired of hearing Holo-Leeta you move on.
Heck at the beginning of STO there was one big RP channel, that all RPers joined, we had multiple fleet get togethers for recruiting and RP on DS9. The academy opened up, and RP occured down there.
Then, the trolls came, and others whose RP was different then each others, and we drifted apart.
I was just curious, if the RP is dead in STO. I have been gone for sometime and decided to come back and see what all has changed since I left. However I could not help but wonder if the RP is still around or not in the game, and if so where is it generally found these days. If anyone feels like responding that would be fantastic.
ive never understood why people role play in none role play games. then get upset that people are playing the game around them like they own the game, thats what private maps are for.
anyways
ur best bet for role play is find a fleet thats rp and stick to custom or low population maps that way u can role play and not get distracted by players.
ive also seen some foundry maps that are for role playing or fleet maps to chill out in.
LoR pretty much killed that off since you have no choice what so ever
"Cryptic, I am utterly unable to use my imagination. Therefor, I would like you to throw out all the work you've done crafting the story of LoR, so that I and my utter inability to reach beyond the bounds of the game can tell my story exactly as I want. I just want you to write it for me."
RP hubs...
There are of course folks like the fleet "Star Fleet Dental" who seem to have an issue with players that RP.. and they are tyranical about it, and have and will griefed a number of RP events social and otherwise, and have griefed non RP social events such as Subspace Radio's DJ Grom show from Drozana on Tuesdays (lots of Orion gals dancing on the bar in the Dabo room around a Ferengi named Grom, and if your picking up the net feed lots of stories, humor, music, activities, and occasionaly contests and goodies.. No one is excluded.... unless of course they are being unmitigated jerks... ie: star Fleet Dental.
Whose activities are so disruptive that If I see someone with the fleet tag, I put them on ignore list. If I go into a mission and a starfleet dental member is in it, I pass a message to the team leader, and exit. I absolutly refuse to associate with a fleet that make such an ongoing effort "As A Fleet" to grief other folks recreation.
I didn't read this far before but this is naming and shaming again. You want to tell the best roleplayers in the game how to roleplay.
A total of 3 dental members turned up to join in the party at quarks. I danced on the dabo table and blew some balloons and fired a few tribbles. Then some odd characters started claiming that the whole party was ruined. They clearly hated anyone having fun.
Further to this your deliberate sabotage of group pve is exceptionally childish and is deliberate griefing. It is also rather foolish given the elite performance of all dental members, and exceptional dps from appropriately fitted ships and boff slotting.
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There was a blog about a huge RP community not long ago.
People also do it randomly throughout places like DS9/Bajor/Drozana ETC.
Ask around, see if anyone can point you in the right direction.
I will forward this post to the RP Squad and hopefully one of them will respond to you.
Ehhh...I wouldn't consider Drozana an RP hub...unless your idea of RP is a bunch of morons running around god-modding, dozens of half-naked Orions dancing on tables and soliciting cybersex, and trolls. As an RPer myself, I never set foot on Drozana...ever. I feel the need to take a shower just flying past it.
Well before Dental took over and all the other crazies I would see actual RP sometimes.
Ugh, Drozana is the reason my female Orion character's alternate costume makes her look like someone who shops at Wal-Mart at 2:00 AM. Stupid Devidian missions.
Spock's Brain.
I've never managed to find a decent RP-based fleet. The fleet search tool is useless, because the majority of fleets select every possible tag to recruit as many people as possible and maximize their dilithium income. There may be moderate+ RP fleets out there, but I haven't found them.
That said, Quark's is semi-reliable as an RP hub. I suggest you check there.
I have to admit, some of the random RP I've run into on DS9 kind of creeps me out. I had to do a mission in Quark's the other day, and actually realized that I've been actively avoiding Quark's for quite some time now.
I, for one, welcome RP but I never really get involved in any because it just never seems to come up. Of course the canon annihilating ways of Cryptic do somewhat make it hard...
Gentlemen, you have your two biggest sources of anti RP sentiment in game right there. Now, how to deal with it?
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
Not my style.
Almost everything I've ever said in chat has been in-character.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
Here's the thing:
Directly involving your character in the game's story is bad etiquette. Not only is it unoriginal, but you're putting yourself on a pedestal above other players by claiming that you're the canon character. Putting the game's plot in your history is frowned upon for this very reason.
Indirect participation? Workable in some areas. Maybe you were one of the officers on Vega Colony who helped evacuate the civilians, maybe you were serving aboard one of the ships in orbit. Perhaps your ship was among the fleet that helped distract the Dominion forces at Deep Space Nine while Commander Winters took his shuttle through the wormhole.
The point is that you shouldn't be trying to make yourself the Captain. Leave that to some unnamed ship and crew and come up with your own history.
I'm not trying to make myself 'canon'.
I simply would like to play the storyline missions within the game. I'd love to rp on the side to when not doing the story lines. I'm not trying to put myself on a pedestal nor claiming to be the captain. You're awful presumptuous simply on the fact I like to play the video game's single player storyline.
Check out "Welcome to the 77th" in the foundry!!!!
By allowing them to continue you are sending the message that organized trolling and game abuse is permitted and condoned. You don't tolerate other sorts of spammers... yet you tolerate them.
This plus public solicitation of ERP. I would like to play my Orion toon without the creep-factor.
Start logging the LOCAL channel and reviewing some of the dialog in places like Drozana.
---
That said I RP with a fleet, and I know where to go for random RP. Look me up in game my @ name is similar to my forum name, I'm @captain_ rather than The. I will RP with you or point you to some RP going on.
The majority of RP I engage in happens at Bajor, happens at Quarks, and on the starbase.
Some other possiblities for RP that are OFTEN overlooked -- SB39 up in Romulan Space, K-7, The Captain's Table, portions of New Rom...
If RP isn't happening grab some friends and MAKE it happen. Involve people, act out a story and go for it.
This leads to another point: Many of the people I know who complain about the lack of RP play quiet reserved socially isolated characters who sit there and interject the occasional ... or *sigh*. We try to engage them, but they insist on playing the isolation. You need to be outgoing and respond to hooks and interaction.
In conclusion, there is a serious organized troll problem in this game that the company seems to ignore or condone. There are plenty of places to RP right now off the beaten path, you have to be ready to make the RP happen though.
Then why did you mention it within the context of roleplaying? The Fleets I know of don't have any problems assisting people with playing through the story to level up, so long as it's out of character.
I'd love to see some social zone hubs without game services.. No mail, venders etc..
That is specificly to encourage social activity. The Captains table would be a good location for it, but unfortunatly its not a place with universal access to all players. Studio will do something with the place in the future as its original intended use died at launch. It was originally intended as a place in game where Life Time Membership players and devs could socialize and interact. Never worked out that away. The question was put to the player base and the majority won. I personally would have never put it to any kind of vote or opinion.
As for current RP hubs.
Some happens now and again at ESD's club 47 in even with "Live" dj shows for the various and assorted net radio stations that cater to the STO player (subspace radio, trek radio etc etc etc.) Quarks is a bit more stable of an RP hub then Drozana. RP still happens at Drozana but frankly more griefing of RP tends to happen that RP and it would be a veryvery very good idea to actually have an in game GAME MASTER monitoring chat at Drozana so even if it cant be stopped, it could at least get moderated.
There are non role players who seem to thing that RP is some sort of joke and apparently don't take the entire premise of Star Trek seriously. in a nut shell.. If the Tek universe was real, most of thoose griefer types would not be wearing a star fleet uniform. They would have been discharged for conduct unbecoming some time ago.
The RP is there. You'll just need to be patient to find it.
I personally choose to play my characters with in the limitations of the fations.. My characters are star ship captains, so I conduct my self with the appropriate dignity of the office.
There are of course folks like the fleet "Star Fleet Dental" who seem to have an issue with players that RP.. and they are tyranical about it, and have and will griefed a number of RP events social and otherwise, and have griefed non RP social events such as Subspace Radio's DJ Grom show from Drozana on Tuesdays (lots of Orion gals dancing on the bar in the Dabo room around a Ferengi named Grom, and if your picking up the net feed lots of stories, humor, music, activities, and occasionaly contests and goodies.. No one is excluded.... unless of course they are being unmitigated jerks... ie: star Fleet Dental.
Whose activities are so disruptive that If I see someone with the fleet tag, I put them on ignore list. If I go into a mission and a starfleet dental member is in it, I pass a message to the team leader, and exit. I absolutly refuse to associate with a fleet that make such an ongoing effort "As A Fleet" to grief other folks recreation.
I haven't been playing for the last 3 months (real world) But I hear they haven't changed at all.
If you want good RP in STO you'll likely have to look for a private fleet, 'open' 'freelancer' RP will almost always be met with people who are the REAL captains of the enterprise and have killed over a billion klingons in space vietnam.
I mean hey, my character isn't any better (Ex-TIC 29th century captain complete with fully working timeship working for section 31) but I rarely role-play anyways, can never really find it.
Look at this naming and shaming. This is the sort of abusive behaviour we have been trying to stamp out. Constant attacks and discrimination against us because we are the best roleplaying fleet on the server. It's pure jealousy.
Dental would like to carry on with their RP without being interrupted or harassed by public erotic roleplayers, and other players with some unusual agendas.
I am well aware of areas used by actual roleplayers but Dental rarely visits those locations as we carry out serious business roleplaying in private instances. We do party publicly though, and spread the fun. Something I'll never understand is the number of players that hate fun in this game. It is a stretch but if you look inside we're golden, and we will rain down happiness on you.
In relation to social hubs there are areas which are social hubs and they go mostly unused. Deleting or providing no services in these areas will not really help as it would provide more reason for roleplayers not to visit.
No Roleplayer agrees exactly what RP means, and what is acceptable. So the RP Community tends to polarize, and then begin to infight.
I'm as guilty of it as everyone else. You try to be open minded, you try and RP where you want, but inevitably, you tend to become something of an RP snob, and RP with those like minded individuals that have the same RP "feel" as you do.
So now, most RP seems to happen within Fleets, on their Starbases and their Embassies. If it happens at all outside of there, its usually on DS9, at least until the trolls come out, or you get tired of hearing Holo-Leeta you move on.
Heck at the beginning of STO there was one big RP channel, that all RPers joined, we had multiple fleet get togethers for recruiting and RP on DS9. The academy opened up, and RP occured down there.
Then, the trolls came, and others whose RP was different then each others, and we drifted apart.
It's golden, but that's not happiness...
ive never understood why people role play in none role play games. then get upset that people are playing the game around them like they own the game, thats what private maps are for.
anyways
ur best bet for role play is find a fleet thats rp and stick to custom or low population maps that way u can role play and not get distracted by players.
ive also seen some foundry maps that are for role playing or fleet maps to chill out in.
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"Cryptic, I am utterly unable to use my imagination. Therefor, I would like you to throw out all the work you've done crafting the story of LoR, so that I and my utter inability to reach beyond the bounds of the game can tell my story exactly as I want. I just want you to write it for me."
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I didn't read this far before but this is naming and shaming again. You want to tell the best roleplayers in the game how to roleplay.
A total of 3 dental members turned up to join in the party at quarks. I danced on the dabo table and blew some balloons and fired a few tribbles. Then some odd characters started claiming that the whole party was ruined. They clearly hated anyone having fun.
Further to this your deliberate sabotage of group pve is exceptionally childish and is deliberate griefing. It is also rather foolish given the elite performance of all dental members, and exceptional dps from appropriately fitted ships and boff slotting.